I thought it was fairly well done. Last week's was way better. This episode felt a tad rushed and the animation wasn't as good.

The scene with Winry was good, it almost made me cry...but the manga take on this entire thing I felt was MUCH more emotional.

I also felt the scene between Ling/Bradley was much more intense in the manga than the anime portrayed.

It wasn't a horrible episode though.

Hmm...I both like and dislike the scar scene being move forward.it makes less mysterious but i really love the whole ishbal flashback so.....unless i'm mistaken,there's some scenes/dialogues is not carried out yet .
i think the blue eyes are nicely done.it notes the differences between them.also the kimbley's scenes are well done.and the part where scar awokes is nicely done to


btw i havent watch that ep at that time.and i think it's not totally like him(um...i only see of his villian roles so...esp in gintama he's as ultimate villian.)but i think his performance is wonderful,and fits scar's brother perfectly,especially the final line of his.the music accompanied by it is good to(IMO).i hope the beginning scenes are included later.

oh btw,i need to comment on winry's scene.the lowdowns of the flashback is that winry's scene is not focused on,since it should be her ep.
side note:it looks like this ep does a recap,which fma hasnt done in quite some times.

at beginnning of anime i really like the scene.winry's flashback.the emotions there is nicely done( i think as subtle as the manga gets),at the grave is nicely done.good music there.
i think winry's appearance at scene is a bit weird...i mean the angle the anime portrays.
and the scene ed put down winry's gun.well it's subtle,and i like how he put down her fingers one by one.(va's fantastic too)

but the gun scene...it seems unmatched....i'm not sure whether it's the different angle the anime potrays...
and i do agree that winry's facial expression is not drawn well here.kinda of unmatched with the seiyuu voice(not the seiyuu's fault anyway)

ling's scene
well the gluttony fight wasnt 100% deleted huh?(it's 97% maybe)i am surprised it's not censored.and i like the king's talk between them.it's pity this ep has not much of their fights

seems like the cut the hoho scenes
Anyone spot the curious cat?
maybe scar adopt it and he forgot afterwards?
Since baidu dont allow post image outside their site,i post the web links
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=639977707

does this scene being cut ?
credits one manga:


some comment on ED music.while at first i did not like it,at latter parts i start to like it more,even than the OP.it relax your mood after a very episode.

I think they were trying to get the Ishvalan's out of there before the army shows up and kills them all.



That scene will probably be the start of next week's episode, just like it was the start of one of the monthly manga.

I just noticed something. Scar's brother hands him his research with his right arm, the same arm he gives to him.

So how perfect was the final scene's lead into the ending theme? It's like they chose that song just for this episode's conclusion!

I see people nitpicking with various things...but once again, I suggest that you just sit back, relax, and enjoy the anime. You can over-analyze the greatest movies/novels/anime of all time, and still find flaws...

I totally agree here. Everyone is being WAY too critical about this episode. I thought it was GREAT. One of the best eps so far, especially animation-wise.

Well, it is only because we do love it so much that we are so critical, lol! Even though a few things didn't turn out quite like I might have hoped, now that I have come to terms with those things, in the end it is still one of my favorite eps so far (if not #1). When I watched it a second time, I also tried to look at it more as if I hadn't read the manga at all. I tried to pretend I was a fresh viewer who had no idea what was going to happen and had no preconceptions about angles, expressions, etc. Now I am much happier.

And OMFG, this AMV made me tear up. O_O Yes, someone already made a gun-scene-centric AMV! I am highly impressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIIfTEuWSG8



Haha, yes, that was the first thing I thought the very first time I heard "Let It Out" a couple months ago! ;D At the end of ep 15, I just went, "HA, THE GUN SCENE. IT IS COMING!" I even predicted that they would use it as a lead-in as Winry collapses into Ed's arms, starting the music before they actually cut to the credits themselves... partly cuz I actually envisioned almost the exact same thing in my imagination early last year, with a song pretty similar in sound/tone (Ayumi Hamasaki's "Fated" - look it up, great song!). Hehe, much as I'd like to think I'm psychic, I really couldn't imagine them having done it any other way. O_o

That said, even though I think the song was definitely meant for this ep more than any other, "Let It Out" also fits Ed/Hohenheim very well (like the end of ep 19, good stuff). You know, I personally think it is the best song of FMA:B so far... heck, one of the best of FMA, period (I love it just about as much as Rewrite and Ready Steady Go from the first anime... it's not actiony like they are, but it's just as powerful in its' own way as a ballad). Kudos to Miho!

Yeah, they seriously messed up the Winry gun scene.

Firstly, it didn't seem as if Scar actually felt threatened. After all, why would Winry be able to shoot him when it seems that Scar has a Matrix-like ability to dodge a whole army's worth of bullets? Maybe if he was in a more vulnerable position, or out of breath or something, instead of just standing there and nonchalantly looking down at her.

Secondly, Winry looked like she was more sad than angry. She showed a little bit of anger when she yelled to give back her mom and dad, but then she went all sadness again. If you're actually pointing a gun at someone and thinking about firing, you're probably sad, yes, but also enraged. They should have shown that more, and it would have also made it more convincing that she might actually fire the thing. With the way they did it, she was weak and it was pretty obvious that she wouldn't have the willpower to do it. On a similar note, when Winry cried at the very end it sounded like Wrath's annoying crying from the first anime.

Thirdly, the ishbal flashback was *great*, but what poor timing! You're not supposed to feel bad for Scar, you're supposed to feel bad for Winry! Plenty of time for feeling bad for Scar later, but this was Winry's moment and they messed it up.

This post summed up everything in my mind. Though the people who did the anime did slightly mess up Riza's-going-crazy-because-she-thought-Mustang-was-dead-and-starts-firing-bullets, I would of preferred that anger versus the sadness that's going around with Winry. It seems more, I dunno, realistic that way.

Personally, I loved the episode.

I don't really feel like taking all the details in, since most people have already done this. But I've come to accept this one small fact: The original thing can never be surpassed. In this sense, Brotherhood will never surpass the manga. Because it's pretty much impossible to get all the impact and emotion from single, powerfully drawn panels into an animated episode. You just have to try and hope it turns out good. This is why I've pretty much given up on criticizing the episodes.

I'm happy of this ep. The gun scene wasn't that bad - it had it's flaws, yes, but I still enjoyed it.
And the EdWin moment was beautifully done, too. (yes, Edwin fan here )

I have to agree with one thing though: The scene when Ed jumped in front of Winry and Al scolded him for it. It really felt like Al was just being heartless and was more interested in catching Scar than ensuring Winry's safety. That.. didn't turn out as expected, really. It made Al look like jerk.
BUT, that's my only complaint. And I dunno how else they could have done this scene, anyway.

I never understood why Al did that either (he says something along those lines in the manga as well). Is it because Ed jumped in front of Winry instead of baiting Scar away from her - and allowing her to escape safely? That's the only explanation I can come up with because I know Al is very protective over Winry too. Still, weird... o.O

I think that Al just wasn't as afraid as Ed to see Winry shoot someone... Ed knows first hand that she is made to bring life, after all. I think that Al was most likely afraid of the gun because it made her an enemy to Scar and it is a dangerous tool when not used to it. He knows Scar, he must have thought that the probabilities she hit him were slim and didn't want here to become a target for nothing. Ed was afraid of the very possibility she could hurt Scar and become a killer.

I would say that it's the same difference between a character that can't bear himself to see people die (in this case, Ed) and a character who doesn't want to kill but still accept that some people must die and won't begrudge someone for doing it (in this case, Alphonse). It should be noted that for the whole manga, Ed and Al enter in the second category. Al wasn't horrified to see Heinkel kill Kimblee, for example, and Ed somehow agreed to the fact that Miles and his men were about to kill Kimblee and his men.

I never thought that Ed and Al's views on killing were that much different but I guess it would explain Al's words in this chapter/episode. I'll need to reread the Kimbley scene in the manga (you might to put that under a spoiler tag, btw) because it feels like that happened eons ago. Thanks for shedding some light on that line!

I think the brothers have the same view about killing people, but in Winry's case, their mileage vary : Ed is obviously feeling something different for her, and he is also the one she helped to "live". I think in that whole scene, Alphonse was just concerned about Winry's physical well-being, while Ed was frightened for her "mind" or "soul". I think it showcases how different Ed's feelings toward Winry are.

I can see that now! I think you're on to something here.

Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 22 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here.

Another strong dubbed episode here- I thought that J Michael Tatum's Scar was outstanding, and I think both Vic Mignogna and Caitlin Glass really showed their stuff there at the end with Winry's breakdown.

And maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to get used to Todd Haberkorn as Ling. Ling was more serious in this episode as compared to earlier, and I think he stepped it up appropriately.

(by the way, it's strange coming here on a sunday morning with no new screenshots from Random Curiosity to look forward to. )

I just caught the end of the episode (a little over halfway through Scar's flashback) cause I suddenly remembered this was the episode with Winry and Scar and was curious.

I'm someone who doesn't like the English dub very much...at all. But I have to be completely honest with myself - I thought Caitlin did a really good job at the end there. I got completely sucked into the scene and forgot I was supposed to be judging her voice acting as harshly as I could The bubble was disrupted only a little by Vic's lines but I'll admit he did a more than decent job as well. I really enjoyed that last scene and think I could watch it again in English and enjoy it thoroughly.


I know what you mean. I was just thinking how weird it is that this is the first Sunday in a long while that I won't have anything new and Brotherhood related to do really.

I'm the same. I woke up today thinking yay two episodes! Er, no. It's just the one.

Totally agree... my Sundays will never be the same anymore! *moment of mourning*

Moving on now to the dub that is going awesomely well! I'm proud of all the actors and how well they are doing. This episode was full of interesting backstory and great emotion - especially with Scar and his brother... I really liked the VA they used for Scar's brother too. Those flashback scenes were so chilling! Winry at the end really made me tear up, so I think her VA did her job right!

It was a good episode. But i think it was not a great as i hoped it to be.

I really don't like Scars voice, or Lins or Mei's voices.

^ in the dubbed=)

I finaly watched the dub just now. And I really liked it. I thought Scars brother was well cast and I think I could listen to Ed Blaylock all day long as Wrath. He gives just enough menace to Wrath and enough calmness to Bradley. It's excellent.
Scar's guy sounded pretty great.

And I still hate Ling's. Sure, it's grown on me, I'm used to it. But that doesn't mean I like it.

Even I, who am not fond of the FMA dub, and have mostly hated Caitlin Glass' Winry, have to admit she did a fine job in this episode. I think what helped it is that she didn't try too hard to imitate the Japanese VA and it came out natural. I thought for sure she would be over the top and wail with that fake-sounding screeching of hers, but instead, she made Winry seem more drained from grief at the end instead of wailing. I was pleased to discover that she may not be a total waste after all.

I wish Aaron still played Al. It sound he does still.

Can't wait to hear him as Young Hohenheim.

Lings Voice is not how i pictured it at all. Same with Selims or Meis.