Trakonda
May 19 2009, 06:31 AM
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ May 19 2009, 01:23 PM)

Romi Paku’s voice as Ed was excellent in this episode, too. It was soo funny when he realized that he called himself small.

I agree! That part sounded so adorable. XD Romi Paku sure knows how to do her job. <3
Although I'm not all that thrilled to see the same scenes from the first anime over again, I have to say there were quite a bit of scenes I loved.

The humour scenes (in manga spirit, of course!) were as good as always.
I also loved the part when they went to Sheska's house.. everyone else had to crawl inside with their backs against the wall, while Ed just walked in, hands held in his pockets. (gotta love these small references! XD )
and the all-of-a-sudden 'freaking out' scene when they studied Marcoh's research. It came so sudden that it really made me laugh. XD
I kind of liked how Hughes mentioned Tucker and how Ed's reacted to it.. a good reminder that it's not just something that could be forgotten after one angsty episode. ^^ (sadly, many animes seem to go that way, luckily FMA doesn't. )
Can't wait to see how they do the battle scenes in the next episode! The first anime had some brilliant animating, I hope this one has them, too.
edo little kid
May 19 2009, 07:22 AM
QUOTE (Trakonda @ May 19 2009, 06:31 AM)

QUOTE (Michiyo- @ May 19 2009, 01:23 PM)

Romi Paku’s voice as Ed was excellent in this episode, too. It was soo funny when he realized that he called himself small.

I also loved the part when they went to Sheska's house.. everyone else had to crawl inside with their backs against the wall, while Ed just walked in, hands held in his pockets. (gotta love these small references! XD )
Loool , yeah you right !!
I was didn't noted this point !!!
Edo really have small size hehehehehe XD
QUOTE (Trakonda @ May 19 2009, 06:31 AM)

and the all-of-a-sudden 'freaking out' scene when they studied Marcoh's research. It came so sudden that it really made me laugh. XD
hehehehehe XD
Me too !!
it's scare me first !!! Al scared too !!
funny part XD
Sword Alchemist
May 19 2009, 07:27 AM
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ May 19 2009, 05:23 AM)

It was good to see Denny and Maria again, but I didn’t really like Denny’s new voice.
I agree. Denny's voice did not fit his character very well. His voice sounded far too old.
Kasumisty
May 19 2009, 07:56 AM
When it comes to pace and animation, that was one of the worst episodes so far. I cannot watch it without frowning at every scene - the animation was so bad it literally looked like doodled on rush. (though scene with a fan was a bit better and watchable - why don't draw rest of the episode like this?) Meh. Pace was better than in episode 2, but they artificially put a lot of material, cutting out interesting scenes. The 5th Lab could be with no harm placed in the next one.
But I must say that voices, especially Paku's and Kugumiya's ones, were brilliant, I like Brosh's voice. And I really loved the scenes with: learning the truth (Ed was covering his mouth with a glove and so did his voice sound), with leaving Al outside ("I didn't choose this size!") and with Ed admitting he is small - he was squirming XD
What else... I liked looking at fan <3 (be my husband! *bricked*), I DIDN'T LIKE the voice during Scieszka's eyecatcher! I hated it! It sounded horrible! HORRIBLE, DO YOU HEAR ME? ...okay, okay, I will be quiet now. I liked how Ed placed his automail on his forehead (and how his eyes were glistening when he wanted to ask Al the question ;; - I cannot wait to see the scene in a hospital and how hurt Ed looked then). Scieszka looked and acted cuuute. And sexy when in a skirt~ And I noticed the lion~ But wonder why they placed it now...
EDIT: And they mentioned Flamel~
Michiyo-
May 19 2009, 09:57 AM
Yeah, the animation wasn't the best in this episode. Let's hope that the quality will improve when the story starts to differ from the first series. I think they just want to finish the episodes that were the same in anime-1 quickly, then they will put more work into new ones.
Oh, and I missed the scene about Roy's alchemy code. It'll be important later, so they should have mentioned it.
Broken Chouchou
May 19 2009, 12:04 PM
Pretty good episode. I for one didn't notice any lesser quality animation-wise. The first half of episode 4 was way,
way worse. I was actually impressed by the animation in some of the scenes in this ep, in particular the spinning fan (yes, I'm serious. A fan. I know, it's weird. But it moved so smoothly

) and the short Lab 5 sequence.
Aribelle
May 19 2009, 12:45 PM
I agree with
Kasumisty and
Michiyo- about the animation...I was disappointed with it this episode. In the first couple episodes I thought it was wonderful but I haven't been nearly as impressed lately. I hope that's just related to the faster pacing and that once things settle down the artwork will look better
kkg22104
May 19 2009, 01:08 PM
I agree that the animation art wasn't the best at times, but it was still a really good episode because it stuck to the manga so closely. People are complaining about the rushed feeling but for some reason it doesn't bother me as much...the old anime changed some events to create filler material, so one chapter could last a whole episode.
Though I do hope they slow down a little bit later on and pay more attention to the art. I want Ling and Mei-chan to look nice in their anime versions.

EDIT: I just rewatched episodes 18 and 19 of the old anime to compare to this new episode. Episode 7 was definitely better. The fan scene was so much better, and the part where Ed cracks the code is more intense.
Trakonda
May 20 2009, 03:44 AM
QUOTE (Shaddy @ May 19 2009, 10:04 PM)

Pretty good episode. I for one didn't notice any lesser quality animation-wise. The first half of episode 4 was way,
way worse. I was actually impressed by the animation in some of the scenes in this ep, in particular the spinning fan (yes, I'm serious. A fan. I know, it's weird. But it moved so smoothly

) and the short Lab 5 sequence.
Actually, I've got a feeling that the fan was made in 3D.. it looked very.. computer-graphic-ish, to me. o.o But I don't know. It could have been also hand drawn with amazing artists that put their whole soul into it - animating the fan. XD
Anyways, that was one of my favourite scenes as well.
Jen_Elric
May 20 2009, 11:47 AM
I agree that the fan looked awesome compared to the rest of the episode.
I did like this episode though! The comic parts were so funny! Like when Denny asked Al why he wears armor, I loved how both brothers said "It's a hobby". LOL
I loved the parts with Sheska. I wish she will be in more scenes.
I also loved how Ed acted after admitting he was small. XD
Oh, the truth about the PS. That scene was fantastic.
The pacing was a little fast, but not really noticeable.
I can't WAIT til the next episode!! YAY!!! Barry!!!!
Hagaren_4ever
May 20 2009, 06:21 PM
I didn't mind the pacing of this episode because I read the manga and I was sort of thinking throughout the whole thing, "And then THIS happens, uh huh, and then after that, THIS...." I was just looking forward to seeing everything animated, I didn't really care as much about the timing. (Yes, I'm pretty easily amused. XD) I loved the part where Ed and Al slowly turned their heads to Sheska. "Hmmmm...." I think I found that more funny than it was really intended to be. Also another, "Bingo!" moment for Edward. Is that gonna be his new catch-phrase or something. "Not another, 'Believe it!' Noooo!"
~In regards to the next couple episodes~
WOW. Did you see the preview for the next episode! Looks like it's gonna be really high quality! ~yays~
Also, I think we get more Winry the episode after next. I hope they do that episode the way they did it in the manga. *crosses fingers*
Broken Chouchou
May 21 2009, 03:27 AM
QUOTE
It could have been also hand drawn with amazing artists that put their whole soul into it - animating the fan. XD
Haha, yeah. It probaby went down like this at Bones HQ
Animator: "Hey boss, in this totally important-and-supposed-to-be-captivating scene of Ed and Al being voulnerable, they kinda look like CRAP. Should I fix it up?"
Director: "Screw that, we have to make THE FAN LOOK GOOD!! Our reputation is at stake here, dammit!"
Hagaren_4ever
May 21 2009, 12:08 PM
What reputation? Lol, I liked the episode's animation! I don't know what everyone's problem is...
I don't like it when they add 3-D stuff to the 2-D stuff, though. I don't like it when something sticks out.

Of course, that could just be that my OCD was kicking in and that that scene didn't bother ANYONE else.
Greensky
May 21 2009, 08:53 PM
Forgive my ignorance about the Manga, but when does the story branch off in a different direction from the first FMA anime? Because so far it's all been the exact same, minus a few small changes... the largest being the "Ice Alchemist", but that was from the 1st episode...
FullMetalFist
May 21 2009, 09:00 PM
QUOTE (Greensky @ May 21 2009, 11:53 PM)

Forgive my ignorance about the Manga, but when does the story branch off in a different direction from the first FMA anime? Because so far it's all been the exact same, minus a few small changes... the largest being the "Ice Alchemist", but that was from the 1st episode...
I could wrong and this is a rough guess, but the original anime series separates from the manga somewhere around the 24th episode. I could be a little off though.
I thought the episode was ok, nothing really all that new so far, but I am still looking forward to the next episode. I think this fast pace crap is stupid, I mean if you are going to do something, then do it right. Besides this I still love the show. I honestly do not think it will slow down, there going to get used to this pace, then cram down your throat. It will be a good throat cramming, but none the less a cramming.
FMA rules
Greensky
May 21 2009, 09:07 PM
QUOTE (FullMetalFist @ May 21 2009, 10:00 PM)

I think this fast pace crap is stupid, I mean if you are going to do something, then do it right.
Well I could care less about the pace of the original anime storyline, since I know it by heart. But the new storyline shouldn't be rushed!
In all honestly, WHY wouldn't they have made the new series with the first episode being just before the new story? I mean... it could just assume that we've already seen the first anime series and just continue on with the new story... why the lengthy rehash?
Tombow
May 21 2009, 10:43 PM
QUOTE (Greensky @ May 22 2009, 12:07 AM)

In all honestly, WHY wouldn't they have made the new series with the first episode being just before the new story? I mean... it could just assume that we've already seen the first anime series and just continue on with the new story... why the lengthy rehash?
@
Greensky - So, you have seen the first FMA anime series. Have you stopped to think that SOME viewers of this FMA series may not have seen the first FMA aime series at all? In fact, I bet there are quite few viewers of this series who had not seen the first FMA anime series. So, why do you assume everyone would know the stories on the first series? To those people (and even to those who had seen the first series,) what's "rehash" to you is, IMO, not "rehash," but the important & integral part of the storyline of THIS SERIES that can NOT be missed, and THAT's why it's there, IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you seems to have some strange misconception about this new anime series. Yes, it is "remake" of sort, but they are NOT writing a new story for this series. Story has been already written (as original FMA story,) even while the first series was going on, and now they are telling the ORIGINAL FMA story which the first anime series could not bring out due to the first series being started while the FMA manga was still going on. But, this is little off topic
ish, so, to understand this better, maybe you can read
FMA Brotherhood anime series FAQ thread, and if you have questions about this series, you can post that on that thread also, to get you better understanding of this new series.
penguintruth
May 21 2009, 10:57 PM
I always watch the episode again on the Funimation website, to see how their subs are, and I have a piece of advice for Funimation.
When I, a person who knows next to no Japanese, can spot problems with your translation, it's time to start working harder. Really, Maria mentions the place where she has to go to withdraw the money Ed is paying Sheska with, but when she mentions the Fuhrer, it doesn't come out in the translation.
Eclipse subs it, "the state alchemist facility at the Fuhrer administrative building".
Funimation subs it, "the prefectual State Alchemist office".
Now, yes, that's probably a more condensed way of saying what's being said, but when she CLEARLY says "daisoto", and you don't bother translating that, when it's a word that's been repeated already, and fans will already know who that is, it's lazy translating not to even mention it.
Greensky
May 21 2009, 11:35 PM
QUOTE (Tombow @ May 21 2009, 11:43 PM)

Have you stopped to think that SOME viewers of this FMA series may not have seen the first FMA aime series at all? In fact, I bet there are quite few viewers of this series who had not seen the first FMA anime series. So, why do you assume everyone would know the stories on the first series?
Well, the FMA anime finished airing in Feb 2004. It's been out for 5 years or so and is one of the highest acclaimed and recommended anime "franchises" out there. So I made an educated assumption that "most" people have seen the first series already, or would at least want to before watching this new version. There is a small fraction of viewers who watch Brotherhood not knowing anything about the series, at least in comparison to those who are in the know already.
All I'm saying is that I personally would have rather seen either a continuance, or as I said before; the manga version without the rehash of the past series. Nothing's wrong with continuing or expanding on FMA for those who have seen the 1st series... that's what people call a sequel.
penguintruth
May 21 2009, 11:53 PM
But Greensky, it's necessary to establish certain plot points which the first series shares in common with the manga in this new series, especially for those who've not read the manga or seen the first series. Many of those events were changed ever so slightly in the first series, as to suit the production team's vision for that series, which was different than the one Arakawa intended, for better or worse.
Also, I'm an enormous fan of the first series, but let's face it, after the movie, there's really nowhere else to take it. Anything else would just be pushing it too far.
Greensky
May 22 2009, 12:04 AM
penguintruth - I agree with you that making a direct sequel would have been difficult. Although, I would have loved to see Ed and Al get back home and Ed marry Winry, have kids and such! I can dream =p
And yes, I agree that for this vision of an entire new series of FMA, old plot points must be covered. I just wish the vision they had for this series was more "Alternate Story" than "Brand New Series". For the people who are already FMA fans.
Lianjinshushi
May 22 2009, 10:55 AM
QUOTE (penguintruth @ May 21 2009, 11:57 PM)

Really, Maria mentions the place where she has to go to withdraw the money Ed is paying Sheska with, but when she mentions the Fuhrer, it doesn't come out in the translation.
Eclipse subs it, "the state alchemist facility at the Fuhrer administrative building".
Funimation subs it, "the prefectual State Alchemist office".
Now, yes, that's probably a more condensed way of saying what's being said, but when she CLEARLY says "daisoto", and you don't bother translating that, when it's a word that's been repeated already, and fans will already know who that is, it's lazy translating not to even mention it.
What she says is "daisotofu," meaning his office. The Presidential Office Building in Taipei uses (almost) the same term.
Going back to the letterhead for Ed's certification, it translates "daisotofu" as "Prefecture of the Generalissimo," so that's probably where the "prefectural" part comes from.
Kirara
May 22 2009, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Greensky @ May 21 2009, 08:53 PM)

Forgive my ignorance about the Manga, but when does the story branch off in a different direction from the first FMA anime? Because so far it's all been the exact same, minus a few small changes... the largest being the "Ice Alchemist", but that was from the 1st episode...
And the amusing thing is the Ice Alchemist is not actually part of the manga.
But really one person complains that they are going through the stuff covered by the 1st series too quickly and it's not good for new viewers. Another person complains that they are doing all the same scenes again. It seems they can't win. Whatever they do someone is going to have an issue with it.
But as others have said they
cannot skip this stuff because it is
important to the later part of the manga. Even if you think you saw it all before. The
slight differences in these early episodes are important to the rest of the series. And besides as popular as FMA is not everyone has seen the 1st series or read the manga.
Still they are getting through the similar stuff as fast as they can, even for the most part adapting 2 chapters at once. Just be patient they will get to the new stuff sooner than you think (well I estimate around episode 15 or 16).
FullMetalFist
May 23 2009, 12:00 AM
Yep we are big whiners, o well I think overall everyone wants the new series to be as legendary and epic as the first series. That is what it is. This has a lot of potential to being something amazing. Do not get me wrong this will never replace the first series, that would be inconceivable.
SneakyRuler
May 23 2009, 03:21 AM
QUOTE (Greensky @ May 22 2009, 05:53 AM)

Forgive my ignorance about the Manga, but when does the story branch off in a different direction from the first FMA anime? Because so far it's all been the exact same, minus a few small changes... the largest being the "Ice Alchemist", but that was from the 1st episode...
Don't worry, it will be soon, my estimate is episode 11 will be Rush valley (where some of the storyline
is different (Winry, her abilities and her resolve to learn more about automail making) and then Izumi and Greed related stuff follows which is where the storyline gets completely other direction, new characters are introduced and so on... So IMO completely new stuff starts episode 14 and on...
Edit: expect a some make-over the very next episode, I just realised the 5th laboratory events differ in manga and first anime (as Tucker is dead already he can't make an appearence, for example)
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I'm a whiner, too. If they continue to draw Hawkeye's eyes as big as balls I swear I kill somebody VERY SOON (as soon as I learn Japanese enough to know who's responsible

But I can't become a complete sucker... every time I see opening or ending all of my gloom is washed away
thunderbreak
May 23 2009, 09:56 AM
i just take on fma on decemberr..so i didnt really watch the anime.well ...only really a few clips here and there,...but i do think i am wishing too much for i t to like exactly like mangas,like bleach,although bleach got fillers too.but looking forward to next ep--he,i need a good fight scene now
BloodRed Alchemist
May 24 2009, 11:09 AM
I wished they'd kept the scene where Al explains that Alchemists code their research notes and he gave examples like how Ed's notes are written like travelogues and Mustang's in the form of girls names. I know its kind of a small scene but I liked it.
http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/10/26/
Tombow
Mar 27 2010, 09:24 PM
Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 7 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here.
hawkflame
Mar 27 2010, 09:48 PM
Gotta say, Sheska's as cute as ever. Maybe even cuter.
penguintruth
Mar 27 2010, 10:07 PM
I love Sheska. It's too bad she doesn't play as big a role in this series as in the first.
Bag of Magic Food
Mar 27 2010, 10:44 PM
But Sheska solved the whole mystery in this show after she saw two Captain Fockers, right? ...Didn't she? ......No?...
Okay, now for a serious observation for those of you who have already seen episode 30. When Ed was explaining how alchemists encrypt their notes, was that a cameo of Master Hawkeye?
Vlyse
Mar 27 2010, 11:47 PM
First thought was Majihal, then I was like, nah, couldn't be.
Then I thought a younger Marcoh. (How old is Marcoh anyway?)
I really don't know who it was.
deet-tastic
Mar 28 2010, 12:13 AM
They cut out Mustangs date comment. When he tells Havoc that he can't relax on any dates until Scar's body is found.
Aww. Is FUNimation trying to make Mustang not a womanizer? Not cool FUNi. Not cool.
The rest of the episode was really good. I liked all of the Lust and Gluttony parts

And Sheska was Sheska, so that's good.
Broken Chouchou
Mar 28 2010, 05:42 AM
QUOTE (Bag of Magic Food @ Mar 28 2010, 07:44 AM)

cameo
It was him, allright.
Disasterpiece
Mar 28 2010, 06:47 AM
I loved how Vic said "THE HELL WITH THIS!"
I thought the epi was very good. The show keeps getting better and better.
Maxey's voice for Al has grown on me and has improved greatly, and I think she's a better voice over for Al than Aaron (In terms of acting) but I don't know, part of me still misses Aaron's voice. But hey, now I can't complain.
Bag of Magic Food
Apr 7 2010, 12:51 AM
Okay, I don't understand this.

How is it that they can make complex new animations like the floating "OOH!" and the dozens of "Tim Marcoh"s flying behind Sheska...

(and while the Tim Marcohs still fly to the left, the background now slides to the right, I guess because the blobs in the background tend to have tail streaks to the left)
...but other elements like "Get to work!", "Are you serious?", and "Dejected" are simply blanked out, even when some of them would be easy to replace?



Sheska must have also decided that "1000 type menu for today/copyright Tim Malco" sounded too Engrishy and rewritten it as "1000 Recipes for Today's Menu/by Tim Marcoh", as every visible instance of that title has been replaced, even when it's in motion and at a funny angle.


Finally, the recipe Maria reads has been changed to a completely different one, even though I didn't see anything very strange about the old recipe.


Yet she still reads the ingredients of the old recipe in the English dub. Um, oops?
Tombow
Nov 12 2011, 10:25 PM
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