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Episode 6: "Road of Hope"
To repair Ed's broken automail, Ed and Al head for their hometown of Resembool, accompanied by Armstrong.
On the way, while they rest at one of the train stations, Armstrong catches a sight of a man, someone he knew from the past. His name is Dr. Marcoh. He used to belong to the Amestris Army, where he conducted research to apply Alchemy for the Medical use. But, after the Ishval War he disappeared suddenly from the Army, and has been missing since. Ed and the company visit Marcoh's place where Ed learns of a shocking fact that during his days with the Amestris Army, Marcoh was researching the way to make the Philosopher's Stone, under the order of the Army.


NOTE: The normal airing schedule (5:00 PM ~ 5:30 PM on Sunday in Japan) will resume for this episode.



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Episode Summary: (To be filled)


Characters in this episode: (To be filled)


Locations: (excluding review and preview scenes)


Sound Track info for this episode that's known to us so far: (To be filled)


FMA manga reference: To the readers of FMA manga (To be filled)
penguintruth
My first impression is that it's pretty much what I expected, a sped up version of chapters 8 and 9 of the manga. I liked the bit with Ed looking over Winry's shoulder while she was working, though. I guess EdxWinry fans can do something with that. Overall, nothing spectacular, much like those chapters. As for versus the first series, I have about the same feeling. I think the first series had a good bit with Winry shining the light, though, that wasn't here, but I didn't miss it so much as to ruin my viewing.

Actually, I'll probably be sort of bored with the next few episodes, since I've seen all of this animated before. Somebody wake me up for Greed.
Alzea
One thing: Armstrong made this episode~! Really, sparkles ftw xD
Ah, well as always I didn't understand much but still this episode made me smile. I liked this reunion. Pacing was just right, everything felt okay. Music...as always amazing. Most of the scenes were directly from manga so I am happy. It's really getting better and better. I like this new Winry^^
Next week: Denny, Maria, Sheska and truth about philosopher's stone~
Now waiting for the subs~
amestris_star
QUOTE (Alzea @ May 10 2009, 10:45 AM) *
One thing: Armstrong made this episode~! Really, sparkles ftw xD
Ah, well as always I didn't understand much but still this episode made me smile. I liked this reunion. Pacing was just right, everything felt okay. Music...as always amazing. Most of the scenes were directly from manga so I am happy. It's really getting better and better. I like this new Winry^^
Next week: Denny, Maria, Sheska and truth about philosopher's stone~
Now waiting for the subs~


Ed watching Winry over the shoulder was so cute! >)
Scenes which are directly from the manga = total absolute WIN.
I need to see it again to comment coherently, especially when the subs are out wink.gif
Haineko
Honestly, this episode wasn't as bad as I feared knowing that the two worst chapters to cram together into one episode (IMO) was crammed into one episode. I was surprised to find that the pace wasn't too rushed, which I think was a function of a bunch of material being cut. That was the downside- some of the cut material were either my favorite or fairly important scenes, such as everyone at East City HQ opting out of escorting Ed and Al home (that always gave me a laugh), most of Marcoh and Lust's encounter (and his attempt to finish her), and that brief flashback of Ed and Al burning down their house. Although I guess they could always show that again in the later flashback with Izumi.

Anyways, a few thoughts:

- The humor continues to be left intact! Al in the boxcar with the sheep was the most priceless thing to see so far on the show XD. I liked that they kept the little montage of Ed, Al, and Armstrong seeking Dr. Marcoh. There were so many familiar manga panels that just kept popping up.

- The music in the first half felt a bit off to me in some places. It felt a little too ominous for my liking.

- Missed seeing Marcoh try to be badass and kill Lust. Now I'll have to wait many more episodes before he does anything like this again sad.gif

- Winry's voice is very high, but I suppose I'll get used to it.

- The scene where Ed disrupts Winry at work was unexpected, but as an EdWin fan, definitely welcome <3 Speaking of EdWin, there were a few subtle but fanservicey moments, like when Ed slightly blushes after she tells him that he needs to get to Central soon, and when Ed is leaving and scratches the back of his head. At this point, I think you can tell that Ed acts differently around Winry and treats her differently from other people too, which is just enough. I like that the romance here isn't exaggerated or over the top-- it's very much like in the manga, which I approve.

- I was wondering what they were going to do with Winry's missing piece after the episode ended, and was pleasantly surprised after the ED. I thought it was the perfect presentation-- in the manga, this scene always felt like a bit of an afterthought, and having the animators place that cute little scene after the episode ended was pure win.

Overall, I have to say I'm satisfied with this episode. I'm not thrilled with having a lot of material cut out, but judging based only on the quality of the episode alone, it was well-done. To use a silly analogy (because it's late and my brain can't think quite clearly anyway), it's kinda like making a tank top out of a ballroom gown. The new product is gonna be underwhelming compared to the original, but is cute and lovely on its own merits all the same. Anyways, I'm definitely looking forward to the next episode when we get to see Denny, Maria, and Szecka smile.gif
penguintruth
They've really got to get rid of some of those pieces of music, like the instrumental version of that one song, which sounds like some vague European tune. It sounds like they're being served at an Italian restaurant half the time, and I want to rip my ears off. Just stick with the vocal version. None of it is even half as good as Oshima's score.
Kasumisty
Wow, I've already watched this episode twice, and enjoyed it much biggrin.gif

-the pace was simply perfect, I haven't imagined that they would succeed in that, and what's more, the events in the episode weren't rushed o.o (well, as far as I remember, only scene with Lust was cut out and some flashback bits)

-Ed broke his record and slept three times in one episode (aww, drool)

-The scene with peeking through Winry's shoulder was funny

-Armstrong is awesome. Nothing more to say

-Well, music was okay, I guess. I have nothing against that instrumental one.


That would be all of the positive aspects (I think I haven't mentioned all, though)

Now time for negative aspects:

-Animation was bad at the times (Den eating - repetition of a few scenes), characters barely blinked (but not quite) - but at the other hand - I love how Ed struggled to walk with normal prostethic

-They still omitted the burning of the Elrics' House : < (and Youswell :<<)


And I guess that's all. I'm waiting to watch the episode with subtitles
Kirara
Honestly I think they are saving the burning house scene for another episode. I guess I can't say which one because spoilers but for those who read the manga think Vol. 5 and pocket watch. And if that's true I don't think it's a bad idea because it will add more to the revelation of that scene. Not to mention the burning house scene is in the opening.

Anyways not a bad episode. Like others I am disappointed at things they cut but the episode still worked and flowed well without those scenes. I also didn't think it felt rushed which is what I feared.

Loved that Edwin addition so cute. And I also was happy they kept the Ed with his stomach exposed scene (very important to me).

edit: Actually I just re-watched parts of the episode and I am pretty sure they do mention that Ed & Al burned down their house (well you can see Ed standing by the rubble of his house).
Hey
I haven't really seen the first anime so I have nothing but the manga to compare this to. har. In the manga I thought this part was kinda boring, but animated it doesn't seem so bad.
I wanted to see Marcoh vs Lust, this episode kinda lacked action (not that it's a bad thing), but I wonder if they'll show it some other time. Though I guess it's not totally necessary or anything...
I thought Winry and Ed's peeking and 'Is it done yet?' was really cute and funny. :D
Oh, and I thought this week's 'Fullmetal Alchemist' voice sounded especially horrible (during Winry eyecatch). I was *okay* with them until now, I don't like that guy saying it so unnormally. D:<

From what I've seen in the first anime Scieszka kinda annoys me, but I'm still looking forward to seeing her next ep anyway, because she seems okay in the manga. And Denny and Maria, yay. :DDD

Btw whoever that creepy guy in the preview reminds me of Hawkeye's father :<
edxwinryfan
Can someone PM me a link to this episode (preferably one that I don't have to download). Thanks smile.gif
HannahBlack09
Ive gotta say that I was a little bit worried about they mixing the dr marcoh episode with the winry one but it turned out to be ok, the pacing was fine not rushed as I thought it would be.

I loved the music, specially when marcoh was talking.

And of course I loved when Ed was watching over Winry happy.gif . I hadnt realized that Ed's hair was really really long, much longer than from the last anime, it really suits him this way.

Armstrong rocks laugh.gif
Tombow
As others have posted, I think the flow of the different parts went fine. In fact, Ed was eager to get to Central to find Marcoh's research notes, and hence Winry worked day and night to complete Ed's automail in 3 days. The story connected fine, IMO.
Pinako's dialogue shines in this episode, IMO. She is a woman of few words, but when she speaks I thought her words were showing full of her "gruff outside, kindhearted inside" nature. happy.gif

(I'll probably bore everyone with this, but I got to add.. ^^ I know from reading her various comments that Arakawa-sensei has a soft spot towards a kind of naniwa-bushiish character that's often depicted in Edo era tabi-shibai (traveling theater company) play kind of stuff... the kind of character who looks unsophisticated and often gruff outside, yet inside is full of caring, and most often they are man/woman of few words.
And, I think in FMA manga, Pinako is one of the characters that typifies this most. So, that's my view of Pinako characters in FMA manga, and based on that, I really like series-2's Pinako dialogue so far, and IMO the wording and VAing of her in this episode was spot on. happy.gif I hope it comes out right in the sub. smile.gif )


And... I liked the preview part with Winry!! biggrin.gif
(Already looking forward to the next episode!! ^^)


I have to watch the episode again with better pic & sound for more comments. ^^
Hagaren_4ever
That scene where Ed was popping up all over the place in the Winry workplace reminded me of that episode of Inuyasha when Inuyasha was pestering Kagome while she was trying to study. XD (Can't remember which episode that was.) Since I read the manga, I could pretty much guess what they were talking about most of the time, but I can't wait to see it subbed.
edo little kid
Coooooooool !!! heart.gif

I really , really , enjoyed in this episode !!!

I didn't think this ep was very rushed which is what I feared too happy.gif

awwwww Ed & Winry was too lovely !!! wub.gif

especially when Ed was watching over Winry !!! thumbup.gif

Ed is very cuteeee !!!!XD

I love his brilliant big eyes too !!

I start liked Ed/Winry !! give_heart2.gif

Lust was (Wooow so pretty) as always ^^ !!

music was nice !! rolleyes.gif

I want to see the episode again with subs !!

Yaaaay Ross & brosh will coming in next ep 7 !! Coool !!!



xXdark_angel_nekoXx
ok can someone pm me the link to see the ep ??? thanks.
edo little kid
Ok, send me PM and ask me to give you the link where you can see the ep 6 happy.gif

Kasumisty
Ok, I have subs and I'm not afraid of using them! PM ME!

edit: Lol, haven't noticed edo little kid post, sorry Xd
Trakonda
ROFL at the Ed disturbing Winry's work- part. It was hilarious! XD

..I also never realized that Edward's hair was actually that long when open. o_o
..About as long as mine! Guess I would really fit to cosplay him sometime, after all. X'D

And the sunset scene when he visited their burned house - lovely. :3 There was many great scenes on this episode. And the humour scenes were just as lovely as ever! 8D Now I also need to watch it again with subs.. I dunno should I PM to one of you guys, or actually wait for someone to upload them. 8D I'm not that eager for subs, anyway. It was quite understandable for being almost exact port of the manga. smile.gif

..one thing that irritated me a bit though. Pinako, please stop blowing the pipe smoke out of your mouth for a second! She did it like, what 5 times in this episode? XD I know it's pretty much her trademark, but come on. 8'D
Hagaren_4ever
QUOTE (Trakonda @ May 10 2009, 03:31 PM) *
ROFL at the Ed disturbing Winry's work- part. It was hilarious! XD

..I also never realized that Edward's hair was actually that long when open. o_o
..About as long as mine! Guess I would really fit to cosplay him sometime, after all. X'D

..one thing that irritated me a bit though. Pinako, please stop blowing the pipe smoke out of your mouth for a second! She did it like, what 5 times in this episode? XD I know it's pretty much her trademark, but come on. 8'D


I never thought Ed's hair was that long either. I paused during that part, and just look at it for a second. Whoa. 0_o I think hair like that would call for more than just 3 little braid thingies. More like...6 or something.

I noticed that, too! When she did it at the end of the episode, I was like, "How many does that MAKE?" XD

Oh and also.
QUOTE (Hagaren_4ever @ Apr 26 2009, 05:41 PM) *
Oh, and after his battle with Scar, I think older Winry's introduced, so let's look forward to the episode after next. (If I know Bones, they're probably gonna stuff a little extra EdxWin in there for a pure fanservice.)


Called it.

I made a post about how the producers would probably put more EdxWin in there for fanservice, but the pestering Winry scene wasn't really EdxWin romance, more like EdxWin interaction, which is almost always funny. XD I loved this episode.
Kaosugoji
I wasn't especially fond of this one. By all means, this should have been two episodes. I pretty much got what I expected: a rushed episode with a few great scenes. I think we were spoiled by the first anime, which really nailed the same material (the return to Resembool) and expanded on it in a manner that made it all more poignant, and most of all, allowing time for the thematic material in the episode to sink in. Here we had two chapters squeezed into one episode again. I didn't have much of a problem with episodes 3 and 5 doing the same thing, but the two chapters composing it connected well. The Marcoh and Resembool storylines connect more awkwardly. The scene with Ed looking down at the ruins of his house and Al and Winry talking over his sleeping body (despite the abscence of some great manga dialogue), were good though. Yes, I know the Marcoh chapter was too short to fill an episode, but the writers could have simply padded it out with new material. I've liked their inserts so far, so I wouldn't mind.

Overall, this was my first real disappointment of this series. I'm confident the next episode will be better though.
mira mirth
I'm in the happy position of not remembering what happened in the manga up until a certain point. As in, I recognize everything, but I wouldn't be able to narrate the succession of events until... I don't know when. Probably until Hughes's death. So I don't know what is missing and it all seems perfectly fine to me.

Armstrong does shine in this episode. And Al with the sheep!

Overall, it's a nice, filler-ish sort of an episode. Things that happen aren't that exciting, but they have to happen, and Winry so far annoys me far less than in the first anime. Almost not at all. She is also ten times as pretty.

Something that did annoy me was the lack of consistency in Ed's character. I mean, I love manga Ed to bits, and it might just be my flu making me cranky, but Ed in this anime seems to be bipolar. We get the cocky, confident, uber-cool Ed in the first two and a half episodes. Then we get angsty and near-catatonic Ed, who reverts to his cheerful self as soon as he's been punched by Al. There must be a magic switch. In this episode, we still have the cheerful, determined Ed, who then completely out of the blue shows great compassion and leaves Dr. Marcoh without the Philosopher's Stone, because other people might need it, and without the research notes, because... well, for no reason. Just to be a nice guy for once. The magic switch is activated again, however - probably when he's hit by a wrench - and from this compassionate creature Ed suddenly turns into a selfish one. His *only* worry is to get back to Central - he does not even spare a thank you to the two women who'd worked tirelessly to give him new automail. It's like - a kaleidoscope of various Eds. And we don't get a smooth transition between them, or much time to get used to a single one. And I don't know why I didn't have such a problem with the manga or the first anime; it might actually be a problem of pacing.

And I'm pretty sure that the other, more general thing, which has been exacerbated by this episode, is definitely the result of fast pacing. It's the fact that leaving Dr. Marcoh without the Stone for some reason required Ed to spill his life story to still *another* person. This whole human transmutation taboo thing is rapidly losing its "super sekrit" status, since they tell someone about it in every single episode and nobody seems to bat an eyelash. (Okay, except Roy that once.) I mean, every single episode. The Ice Alchemist (was that his name?) figures it out within about two seconds. Cornello does too. Tucker gets told. Scar... well, half the military gets to know in that episode. Now, Marcoh. And I know that all these people have to know for plot or strategic reasons, but it's really diluting the value of this super taboo since nobody's even *reacting* to the fact that not only did Ed at his age attempt a transmutation, but survived it, too. Isn't it supposed to be a big deal?

*stares at post* Oh my god, it's a rant. I didn't mean to rant quite so badly. I still *do* like this anime, and by default like it more than the first one. And I enjoyed this episode. The way some things inevitably have to be presented, however, seem to bug me, although it is very likely that I'm alone in this =)
crazyanimefan
Yay subs!

Anyways, this episode was pretty good. I expected it to be rushed, but the pacing seemed fine to me. I'm a little disappointed in some of the Marcoh stuff they cut, like Marcoh being awesome and trying to beat up Lust, but hey, he'll have some bad@$$ moments later. Ed pestering Winry was really cute. But Ed slept three times in one episode? That must be some sort of record! I think my favorite part was Pinako's lines. She may not have many of them, but when she does speak it shows her wisdom and her tough exterior while still being a softie inside. <3 Yay. The cutest part was Winry discovering the forgotten bolt after the ending credits. I love that part in the manga.

Overall, not bad. The vocal music in the beginning half was out of place, but otherwise it was a good episode.
Kirara
QUOTE (WinterChanterelle @ May 10 2009, 05:26 PM) *
Something that did annoy me was the lack of consistency in Ed's character. I mean, I love manga Ed to bits, and it might just be my flu making me cranky, but Ed in this anime seems to be bipolar. We get the cocky, confident, uber-cool Ed in the first two and a half episodes. Then we get angsty and near-catatonic Ed, who reverts to his cheerful self as soon as he's been punched by Al. There must be a magic switch. In this episode, we still have the cheerful, determined Ed, who then completely out of the blue shows great compassion and leaves Dr. Marcoh without the Philosopher's Stone, because other people might need it, and without the research notes, because... well, for no reason. Just to be a nice guy for once. The magic switch is activated again, however - probably when he's hit by a wrench - and from this compassionate creature Ed suddenly turns into a selfish one. His *only* worry is to get back to Central - he does not even spare a thank you to the two women who'd worked tirelessly to give him new automail. It's like - a kaleidoscope of various Eds. And we don't get a smooth transition between them, or much time to get used to a single one. And I don't know why I didn't have such a problem with the manga or the first anime; it might actually be a problem of pacing.


Well I don't know all these things you mention are part of Ed's personality. He is a pretty dynamic character. Mind you I think this anime might have upped his depression in episode 5 a little bit but other than that I think they got his character down perfectly.

Sure Ed has that side where he acts like he doesn't care or as you said the cocky, confident, uber-cool Ed. But that's really very much a front because Ed actually cares very much and this is when things like Marcoh (and why he didn't steal the stone) come out. Ed's a whole lot nicer than he sometimes tries to act.

As for the whole depressed Ed again they might have went a little overboard but after what happened with Nina this really brought Ed down a lot and this sort of led into him giving up with Scar. Normal Ed would not have given up so easily but again what happened in episode 4 affected him greatly. His determination and beliefs were tested (and they will be again).
But the manga is all about hope and picking yourself up from despair. So yes Ed had a low point but by the end of episode 5 with a little help from Al he is just as determined as ever. Because as he said "we are alive so we have to push forward".
Sword Alchemist
The Ed & Winry interaction was funny. The episode didn't seem as rushed as I thought it would, seeing as how they've combined two chapters.

Denny and Maria next week. happy.gif
Mistress of Misery
Bleh. I'll have to agree with most of what WinterChanterelle said about Ed spilling his life story to everyone he meets. I guess I just didn't like this episode very much. The storylines don't mesh all that well. Of course, there were still interesting and funny parts...

I guess I'm just waiting for the next Nina-esque episode. I do wish that everything in between could be as good, but that'd be asking too much... *twiddles thumbs*
Hagaren_4ever
Next week's the episode where they find out how to make the Philosopher's Stone. And it will be beautiful. And the parts with Shescka will be funny. And there will be false hopes. And screaming. And angsting.
....lots....

and lots...

....and LOOOOTTTSSS.....

...of angsting.

OMG, guys, it's gonna be a roller coaster ride! T_T But after this, there's (I'm not sure if spoiler baring this is neccessary, but...) Barry the Chopper will be introduced after this in lab 5. And then the Homunculi come around, and we finally start getting to the real story. Dreading and looking forward to it!
Tezrath
You want another "Nina-esque" episode?? lol--not me! Don't get me wrong, I like eps like that, but I prefer them spaced out. Otherwise it is just like the short jokes, or the way Ed is sharing his story with every curious person he meets. It takes all the impact and resonance out of it.

I realize that by stuffing two chapters into one episode leaves them with no choice but to cut stuff out..... but two scenes that I missed seeing in this ep are:
1) when Armstrong joins Ed and Al's sparring session..... and they flee for their lives! biggrin.gif
2) and as others have already said; the Marcoh/Lust fight

Other then that, overall a good episode... and I might wish those scenes and a few others were included, but those two chapters are ones that while necessary; are not particularly exciting. So it is probably for the best that they weren't padded and turned into separate stories. That would have caused even more complaints (of that I have no doubt) wink.gif
Sword Alchemist
It was kind of nice to see Ed acting like his old self again. He has been so depressed since Nina.

Is anyone else glad that they made changes to Winry's work clothes in this anime? Much better than the pink bandanna and lavender coveralls from the first series.
Vagrant
Ranty/long post. Sorry.

The intro monologue thing about equivalent exchange is starting to bug me now. I just don't really see the point of it. It's not exactly going to summarise the show for anyone watching late or anything.
Given how much was cut from the manga in this ep, I'm just finnicky about how the time is spent.

How did the art look this week to everyone? It started off looking a bit strange, but seemed to go back into being quite good. Still not certain if its as good as the first four episodes.

They missed the early military bits with some good humour. Probably necessary for time, they did manage to get all the right story in anyway. No Lust on the train though?

ALBOX'D IN THE FACE! (though I preferred the way the manga did it)

I think they missed some characterisation for Marcoh when they're talking to him. He seemed to talk more about the war and implies that the doctoring in that town is his redemption and such in the manga.

I liked a shot of Ed before Armstrong says about "just finding a man named Mauro" at the train station. He looked quite cool. Hope the capsummaries people post that 'un up.

Why did they completely skip Lust's confrontation with Marcoh? It had manga badassery and foreshadowing and awesome! I'm not sure if they can sensibly squeeze this into the next episode, so what? They'll just presume Marcoh went along with her? (again kind of hurting his characterisation)

THERE'S NO TIME FOR THE CORNY AMERICAN "Fullmetal Alchemist!" GUY AND THE STUPID TITLE CARD THINGS!

Winry looks good in her bizarrely small costume intro. I think someone said last week about how people pronounced her name Wendy, I definitely noticed that from Pinako here.
Also, Winry's voice seems a little too high pitched to me. Dunno if they've changed it or what...Maybe it's just high in the context of this episode (lots of shouting and good times). Shrug.

They skipped Ed's explanation of what happened to his automail and the humour there. :\

Another familiar piece of music as Pinako talks about Ed going to the grave. I am still happy with the soundtrack to Brotherhood so far.

Hah, we all love sappy Armstrong.
(but the fansubs on what I watched had Ed say "It's too hot!" when Armstrong went to embrace him. Eh?)

Winry's rant about automail was good stuff.

I know this is such a weird nitpick (I'm a physique weirdo), but Ed's body still looks a little too chiseled for his age. It's very close to the manga though. They definitely haven't given him the bulk of the last anime.

Haha. NEXT TIME ON FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST: Paperwork!

Overall the episode was good, but it was ALL story. So not too entertaining for the people who've seen it all before. I'm sure it's good for new viewers though.
Considerable lack of funny moments considering the chapters its based on though. I think they did try to cram too much into this one and it suffered for it. Could they not have split it halfway through the Risembool part or something?
Jen_Elric
Well, this episode was good. Not great, but pretty good.
I liked the pacing until the end, when Ed transmutes Al. It was like "Bam!", then "Hey, wanna spar?". I was like, "ok a little rushed there".
I LOVED the part when Ed kept looking over Winry's shoulder! It was so cute and funny! But they drew his hair too long! His hair is NOT that long when it's down.
I agree that them skipping Marcoh standing up to Lust was off. I mean, they show her there and then go to the next scene. That leaves the viewers wondering if something happened to him.
Armstrong was made of win in the episode!
Oh, that American "eye-catch" guy is going to have fans after him with pitchforks!! He is so annoying with his voice.

Sheska, Maria, and Denny next episode!! I can't wait!
montyalbo
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2009, 10:28 PM) *
(but the fansubs on what I watched had Ed say "It's too hot!" when Armstrong went to embrace him. Eh?)


It's pretty hot if you ask me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3bl9G4yow
penguintruth
While I enjoyed what the first series did by tying the Marcoh bit with the Scar attack, and giving the Risembool visit a punch with the watch bit from the Rush Valley arc (which I thought was boring, and am not looking forward to seeing), this episode did a fairly good job of handling the material in a pretty seemless fashion. It's not as good as how it was handled in the first series, but it was acceptable, even impressive given they used two chapters.

A few more thoughts:

- The town Marcoh is a doctor in is so beautiful!
- Alphonse was pretty quiet until towards the end when Ed was sleeping. I'd forgotten that he barely said anything in those chapters.
- I want the rest of that visit by Lust! I guess it isn't entirely necessary, though. I guess the next time we see Marcoh will be... when, when he's locked up?
- I'm not sure about this new Winry voice. I guess I'm just so used to the first one. It's not as though I care that much about Winry anyway, but she is still a pretty vital player to the lives of the brothers, so I'd like to be able to adjust to the new voice.
- The score still pales in comparison to Oshima's. Every bit of it pales.
- Is it just me, or does Armstrong seem EXTRA CREEPY in this series?

Wooh, Sheska is in the next episode! Too bad she's pretty much out of the story after all that. Somebody put some extra scenes with her in later!

Arakawa, show her again in the manga! I love Sheska and her Yumiko Readman-like personality.
Vagrant
I couldn't even remember if Sheska was in the manga, to be honest. :\

And for the folk talking about Ed's schizophrenia; I think the problem solely lies in how much they exaggerated his "emoness" in the previous episode. Otherwise it about fits, I think.
Besides, him spending time with Winry and Pinako and having hope for a philospher's stone would be more than enough to bring him back to normal, surely.

Oh, and I'm sure this will piss a lot of people off but I would have rather they cut out the Ed peeking over Winry's shoulder scene and put more manga stuff in there. Hell, even just Ed talking to Al about how he hates "taking a break" would've been preferable to me.

QUOTE (montyalbo @ May 11 2009, 04:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2009, 10:28 PM) *
(but the fansubs on what I watched had Ed say "It's too hot!" when Armstrong went to embrace him. Eh?)


It's pretty hot if you ask me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3bl9G4yow
I'm honestly too afraid to click that link. D:
Tombow
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 11 2009, 12:19 AM) *
QUOTE (montyalbo @ May 11 2009, 04:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2009, 10:28 PM) *
(but the fansubs on what I watched had Ed say "It's too hot!" when Armstrong went to embrace him. Eh?)
It's pretty hot if you ask me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3bl9G4yow
I'm honestly too afraid to click that link. D:

I already checked, and it's entirely safe. biggrin.gif
It's just a 30 sec loop vid of poor Ed being squeezed to death by Alex. laugh.gif
Anakishi
Considering how boring this part of the story is, they did a decent job, the funny parts caught my attention. I still find the art beautiful, but now I'm starting to get pissed at how the characters (especially Ed) are portrayed sometimes. It seems they don't keep track of their proportions very well: in this episode, we have Ed's ultra-long hair in the pestering-Winry scene, and a little before that, when he wakes up, his eyes are almost as huge as Hawkeye's. Please, animators, try not to slack off too much...

I'm pretty sure next episode we will see a bit of the Marcoh-Lust confrontation. It may not look like it, but it's pretty relevant: Lust still has to make Marcoh spit off the location of the files to her. Not so sure they can just assume it all happened without confusing new viewers.

About Winry... well... never liked her, but I like this initial, ruthless appearance of her. (It's a shame it's not gonna last for long, though) Loved the new colors of her clothes; yes, women not always have to wear pink. And, is it just me, or does her new voice sound kind of familiar? I can't say for sure, but I kept hearing Kagami (from Lucky Star) every time she spoke. A little high, yes, but not so annoying, IMO.
Full Metal Elf
I thought this episode went just fine. I was sad they cut-out the short jokes with Ed and the military gang. sad.gif

I was also sad they cut-out the "I have a message from Roy..." part between Hughes and Ed sad.gif. That was the greatest! I'll have to watch the original episode for that I guess tongue.gif.

But, overall...it was good. Good timing, not too rushed or anything. I hope we see the rest of Lust and Marcoh in the next episode. I need to re-read the manga again and see how things flow from this point on.
penguintruth
You know what? I was watching the final episode of the first series again recently, and you know what I saw?

In the montage at the end, Winry was wearing a GREEN bandana when she's working with Domnic.
Vagrant
QUOTE (Tombow @ May 11 2009, 05:26 AM) *
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 11 2009, 12:19 AM) *
QUOTE (montyalbo @ May 11 2009, 04:21 AM) *
QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2009, 10:28 PM) *
(but the fansubs on what I watched had Ed say "It's too hot!" when Armstrong went to embrace him. Eh?)
It's pretty hot if you ask me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd3bl9G4yow
I'm honestly too afraid to click that link. D:

I already checked, and it's entirely safe. biggrin.gif
It's just a 30 sec loop vid of poor Ed being squeezed to death by Alex. laugh.gif
Oh god! Why does he seem to be thrusting?!
ShadowCat17
I thought this was a pretty good episode - and the second half at Risembool was better than the first half with Dr. Marco. Armstrong, Pinako, and Winry were the stars of this ep. Winry is much cuter than she was in the first anime, especially after she hit Ed with the wrench and welcomed them home. I agree that this episode definitely had some precursor EdxWin moments. Heck, Ed even blushed, and he definitely acted differently around her.

I like some of the instrumental/choral themes, but I still think the music from the first anime was 5x better.
AA battery
I meant to draw this a while ago but I was lazy. Since episode 6 had the right screencaps... well, why not use them? XD

Kyelinn
LOL@AA battery. That's just priceless. xD

I honestly don't really have ANY complaints about this episode. I thought it was the best one yet! I think my only problem was not getting to see Lust attack Marcoh like in the manga, but as somebody stated above I'll bet we'll see it in the next episode. I really REALLY loved seeing Winry! She's so beautiful! And I loved the hints of EdxWin. <3 It was positively adorable. I loved how Ed kept peeking over her shoulder to see if the automail was finished and the scenes with Armstrong were definitely hilarious. I was pleased with the pacing. I didn't feel anything was too rushed and I'm glad they kept the Marcoh scene short as that part IS kinda boring in the manga. All in all, this episode was awesome. I loved Winry in it, as (besides Ed) she's my favorite character. So yeah, my two cents. tongue.gif
mira mirth
Um, a clarification of my earlier rant: I don't mean to say that Ed's emotions aren't legitimate. I don't think he's reacting wrongly to things, exactly, and I agree with Kirara and Vagrant when they said that it's all part of Ed's character. What bugs me is the *way* it's been portrayed and the *speed* with which Ed is going through all these emotions. It's not Ed's fault, per se, it's just the directorial decision to rush through these episodes, and hence have Ed act like a human pendulum with his emotional reactions. And the director *has* to rush through this, so it's not anything anyone can help. When the pace slows down, the problem is going to disappear, simply by virtue of Ed having more screen time to get over each situation.

And, Vagrant, I'm with you on the whole cutting out of Ed peeking over Winry's shoulder happy.gif but then, I'm not a fan of EdxWin, so I'm saying this is all purely sibling-y behaviour. Yes yes. None of that lovey-dovey stuff. Denial, I hear it's nice this time of year.

I'm very excited about the appearance of Plot in the next episode!
N. Havoc J.
The mustached man was on the train. laugh.gif
Sword Alchemist
Is it just me or did Winry look way too thin. She didn't look as skinny in the first series.


It was really touching when Al talked about how much he appreciated Pinako and Winry during he and Ed's last night in Risembool.
Edamame
Overall I found this a rather enjoyable and entertaining episode; nothing too deep nor philosophical here, but I still love how we as audience members, get to a see brief glimpse into the destructive nature of the Philosopher´s Stone. For viewers of this series who haven´t read the manga nor seen the first series, I think that the truth behind the stone is always the greatest shock. I am pleased that they kept Ed´s line: "I have already seen hell" in this episode because it conveys so much about what these two brothers have already been through and shall have to continue going through.
I thought that the return to Risembool was handled well, and I found the scene with Ed constantly peering over Winry´s shoulder and pestering her to be quite funny. I loved Paku Romi´s voice acting in that scene! After watching this episode, I have to say that I never really realized how much I like the character of Pinako Rockbell. Although she comes off as an old woman from a small town in the middle of nowhere, she has a strong personality and gruffness to her. Yet, the viewer can also tell that she has a strong love for her own granddaughter and both Ed and Al who she treats as her own grandsons. I do have to say that I was a little bummed that they cut out the brief flash-back to Ed and Al burning down their house, but I suppose that they may leave that until a latter episode.

I think my favorite part in this episode was at the very end when Ed is sleeping with his belly exposed and Pinako overhears Al chiding his elder brother. I love the line spoken by Pinako where she states that Al really is like Ed´s personal protector. I think that just that tiny little line tells so much about Al´s character in the manga. Unlike the previous series, I thoroughly enjoy how Al plays an active role as his brother´s constant protector. I also found it really sweet how Al thanked Pinako for taking both him and his brother in as members of her own family. Winry and Pinako are such important anchors in the lives of Ed and Al because they offer solace and home when none can be found.

Although some scenes from the manga were left out, it did not affect the episode as a whole. I actually felt that the episode flowed quite well from one scene to another.

Some things I didn´t like- I am not sure what to think of that one choral piece that played when Marcoh showed the brothers the incomplete Philosopher´s Stone. I always think "chanting" sounds so corny and over the top. I do have to say that the pieces so far are no where as memorable as the scores from the previous series. Man, I miss "Bratja".

- I also missed Marcoh "defending" himself against Lust.
Kale Mustang
Thought this was a nice, quiet episode (the calm before the storm) and I rather enjoyed the slower-pace.

Animation was a little weird in some places, but overall it was another solid episode.

Loved that little bit with Winry just before they showed the next episode's preview - thought that was pretty cute.

Next episode should be fun (mostly looking forward to the scene with Roy & his 'research notes').
Sword Alchemist
Looking forward to seeing Denny and Maria next episode.
Radadinator
Overall, I'm pretty impressed with how well they compressed the two chapters into one episode, especially since the storylines are so different. It would have been cool to see Hughes tell Ed the message from Mustang, but so far, the director's doing an okay job of taking the essential parts and panning them out.

I get the feeling that they're spending more of the budget on the backgrounds instead of the characters. There were a ton of inconsistencies with Ed, and they used the same bit of Pinako smoking for about five different scenes, but the backgrounds give off a sense of...I don't know, the diversity in the FMA world. Like with Liore, and now Risembool. There are all of those little details like the chickens.

I'm counting on a ) an extensive flashback complete with burning house and Al carrying Ed over to the Rockbells for help when they meet Izumi, and b ) pacing to get more contemplative when Hughes dies. This is the director of Kurau, man, I'm expecting awesome things later on.

Nothing will ever top Michiru Oshima's score. :/
The new score's nice enough, but not nearly as good.

I like the warmer approach that this episode took. The first anime's good, but it made FMA a bit heavier than it really needed to be.

Aaaaaaand that's it.
Mistress of Misery
QUOTE (Tezrath @ May 10 2009, 09:59 PM) *
You want another "Nina-esque" episode?? lol--not me! Don't get me wrong, I like eps like that, but I prefer them spaced out. Otherwise it is just like the short jokes, or the way Ed is sharing his story with every curious person he meets. It takes all the impact and resonance out of it.


Oh heck no, I don't want a Nina-esque episode all the time. That would get really old, really fast. I only meant that the "calm" times before the next big plot event shouldn't be neglected by the animators, etc. There was nothing fundamentally wrong with this episode; it was cute, it was sweet, the pacing was fine, and it set up later plotlines like it should. There isn't much else to say.

I'm looking forward to Sciezka's appearance. She's almost exactly like me. xD;
Vagrant
QUOTE (Sword Alchemist @ May 11 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Is it just me or did Winry look way too thin. She didn't look as skinny in the first series.
I thought that too but I wasn't too sure.
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