amestris_star
Aug 10 2009, 10:51 AM
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 10 2009, 07:39 PM)

Ep21 is when Ed and Al visits Mustang and Havok in the hospital (?!?!?) and they realize from discussion that the Homunculi very likely have their base of operations within the range of the Fuhrer's residence in Central. After this shocking realization, Ed and Al seek out the secrets of the Homunculi, but get news instead that Scar has been sighted back in Central. It sounds like ep21 is a total rearrangement of the plot again, like ep16.They're changing something again... guh. Ok, they get one thing right and another wrong...
Thanks for the info
Michiyo ^^
Tombow
Aug 10 2009, 11:07 AM
Thank you,
thunderbreak,
amestris_star, and
Michiyo- for bringing all these info!! You guys are awesome!!
Ohh, the info posted by
thunderbreak has the chapter preview summaries for chap 20 ~ cap 23!! Awesome!! I think the summaries for chapters 20 ~ 22 coincide with and confirm
duckroll's translated chapter summaries posted by
Michiyo-. I'll get to translating the one for chap 23 later... or if I get occupied for other stuff, and others who can read Japanese can help out, please feel free to go ahead and post the translation! ^^
QUOTE (kkg22104 @ Aug 9 2009, 04:47 PM)

I have a question though, what exactly does "pre-empted" mean (on duckroll's post)? Is FMA:B not going to be aired on September 6th?
@
kkg22104 - Yes, that is correct. It seems we will have no FMA:B ep aired in Japan for that week.
penguintruth
Aug 14 2009, 09:38 PM
QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 10 2009, 01:39 PM)

I actually like some of the changes being made. Especially since most of the material is from volume 11, and volume 11 is such an overly talky volume with some belabored points.
rzerox21xx
Aug 16 2009, 08:33 AM
I read this in wikipedia and animenewsnetwork FMA episode list of episode 23
The Girl of the Battlefield"
"Ikusaba no shōjo" (戦場の少女) September 13, 2009
Good to know they going to go in depth of the Scar battle with Winry. I sure that make Edwin fans such as myself happy. I hope the animation quality would be good in that episode.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...216&page=25
amestris_star
Aug 16 2009, 12:02 PM
And Ep. 21 synopsis on the official site is out:
http://www.hagaren.jp/about/story02.html#story01
kkg22104
Aug 16 2009, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (rzerox21xx @ Aug 16 2009, 11:33 AM)

I read this in wikipedia and animenewsnetwork FMA episode list of episode 23
The Girl of the Battlefield"
"Ikusaba no shōjo" (戦場の少女) September 13, 2009
Good to know they going to go in depth of the Scar battle with Winry. I sure that make Edwin fans such as myself happy. I hope the animation quality would be good in that episode.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encycloped...216&page=25Thanks for the info! ^^ Dang, September 13? I have to wait a month for this episode? I can't wait for the EdxWin moments
Turdaewen
Aug 17 2009, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (penguintruth @ Aug 15 2009, 01:38 AM)

QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Aug 10 2009, 01:39 PM)

I actually like some of the changes being made. Especially since most of the material is from volume 11, and volume 11 is such an overly talky volume with some belabored points.
Yeah... me too! As long as they don't change substantially the story, I even like some changes, or it would be really BORING to watch. ¬¬'
It seems rather dull to see a 'xerox' of the manga.
Serb Alchemist
Aug 18 2009, 04:11 PM
So, there is going to be an episode on Sunday!?
kkg22104
Aug 18 2009, 07:44 PM
QUOTE (Serb Alchemist @ Aug 18 2009, 07:11 PM)

So, there is going to be an episode on Sunday!?
No, not this upcoming Sunday. They're ditching FMA for sports >_< Anyway, the next episode is airing August 30.
Broken Chouchou
Aug 18 2009, 11:58 PM
Just a random (why is that word "censored"??) question: How many episodes have Bones finished already? Is there going to be some kind of break while we wait for them to produce new episodes?
What I'm trying to say is; how far into production have they gotten? (If anybody knows)
Mr. Deathy
Aug 21 2009, 01:33 PM
^I don't think anyone knows that except the studio themselves.
I think most of the time though anime studios are about as far ahead as the episode titles suggest, so probably they're always like 4-5 episodes in advance of the last episode.
Most of the time in Japan they produce anime episodes simaltaneously as the show airs so don't expect a break. Multiple different animation teams are always working on separate episodes so many episodes are always in production at once.
DistantBlue
Aug 21 2009, 03:34 PM
Okay, to those who write about the 'random' censoring - basically, according to Tombow, posters in a thread kept using the word several times in each post even though something wasn't random. So, the mod threw a hissy fit, according to Tombow's little strikethrough XD got mad and insisted that the word be filtered for curious.
Anyway, still haven't watched the new episode (I want to watch it this Saturday or Sunday so I didn't pine for a new one all this week and next week because of the sports thing). I'm very much looking forward to these next ones though. We're going so fast! XD
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 07:34 AM
so, the ep21 will be on TV , in wednesday??? '___'
(I hope that) *.*
amestris_star
Aug 22 2009, 10:26 AM
QUOTE (edo little kid @ Aug 22 2009, 04:34 PM)

so, the ep21 will be on TV , in wednesday??? '___'
(I hope that) *.*
Where did you read that?
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 11:02 AM
hmmm,,,,I don't know , my friend tell me that ^___^'
but ,,, when we can see the ep ???? T____T
hand-made-city
Aug 22 2009, 11:04 AM
I thought it was going to air on Sunday like it always does... isn't that the case?
kkg22104
Aug 22 2009, 11:12 AM
I'm pretty sure episode 21 will be airing on August 30th, as in, next Sunday.
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 11:17 AM
aooooo T____T
that will be a looooooooong time , I want the ep , I wan it!!
my friend still tell me that the ep will be in this wednesday???
kkg22104
Aug 22 2009, 11:20 AM
@edo little kid: But where did your friend hear that from?
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 11:25 AM
she said the next ep (21)
will be in 8/26 , in wednesday.
kkg22104
Aug 22 2009, 11:36 AM
Well, I guess it's possible that they might've rescheduled it but I haven't heard any news about it. Do you have the source?
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 11:50 AM
I don't know anything , it's my friend '__'
ah , right , you can see the date (8/26)
wrote in the next ep (21) small showing

see ya
amestris_star
Aug 22 2009, 11:57 AM
QUOTE (edo little kid @ Aug 22 2009, 08:50 PM)

I don't know anything , it's my friend '__'
ah , right , you can see the date (8/26)
wrote in the next ep (21) small showing

see ya
Oh that's good to know... BUT I'D BE AT WORK AT THAT TIME DAMMIT *calms down*
I'll have to miss the live-streaming if that happens... *sigh*
Do you have the link to that
edo little kid by any chance?
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 12:19 PM
Hmmm ,,,,
well

can you see this date , right?
I don't have any info else
I hope we can see the ep soon ;___;
kkg22104
Aug 22 2009, 12:34 PM
@
edo little kid: OH, that's where you got the date! I'm pretty sure that's when the DVD and Blu-Ray are going to be released.
So, episode 21 WILL be airing on August 30th.
amestris_star
Aug 22 2009, 12:36 PM
QUOTE (kkg22104 @ Aug 22 2009, 09:34 PM)

@
edo little kid: OH, that's where you got the date! I'm pretty sure that's when the DVD and Blu-Ray are going to be released.
So, episode 21 WILL be airing on August 30th.

Definitely *nods* And yep, if you see all of the posters, ads and what have you related to the DVD and Blu-Ray release, it's always 8/26

Thanks for that screen, it clears things out for sure.
edo little kid
Aug 22 2009, 02:14 PM
Oh, so the date for that T__T
that mean we will wait one more week >.<
huh, I'm very frustrated ;___;
I'm sorry every body
see ye
Tombow
Aug 22 2009, 03:17 PM
Sorry guys for not keeping on top for the last several days. I'm having some connection problem... my Net connection keeps getting slower and slower and/or going on & off >.< (I know why/what's causing it, and I have to wait for a few more days for that to ends. ^^) Anyway, I got on my friend's laptop and checked around for the airing time for Episode 21, and......About the airing date for Episode 21 in Japan:
As reported previously that the network in Japan that airs FMA:B series is pre-empting this Sunday, Aug. 23 time slot for other event, and the FMA:B episode 21 will air on NEXT Sunday, Aug. 30, 2009.
I double checked the TV schedule listing on official TBS site (the network that airs FMA:B in Japan) today, and currently, FMA:B episode 21 is
listed to air on Aug. 30, 5:00 PM (17:00). The list says the episode「愚者の前進」 which is episode 21: ."Advance of the Fool."

For this Sunday, Aug. 23, 2009,
they are covering some sport event (World Track & Field competition) for that time slot.
I know some rumor says that the episode 21 will air on Wed. Aug. 26, but so far according to the schedule listing (as of now) FMA:B is
NOT listed on Wed. Aug. 26 airing schedule.
So, yeah, unless they have some last minute changes, it looks like..
as previously reported...
episode 21 will air on Next Sunday, Aug. 30, 2009.
eddman
Aug 27 2009, 04:00 AM
~ After Brotherhood storyline catches up with FMA manga, what do you think would happen? ~
1. Halt the production, and continue it after a few years. (Giving manga time to develop)? or
2. Introduce filler content. (Like Naruto)? or
3. Finish it with an alternate ending.
I hope that they'll never consider the third option. Both first and second options are fine by me. What are your thoughts?
Fallen Gemini
Aug 27 2009, 02:06 PM
QUOTE (eddman @ Aug 27 2009, 04:00 AM)

~ After Brotherhood storyline catches up with FMA manga, what do you think would happen? ~
1. Halt the production, and continue it after a few years. (Giving manga time to develop)? or
2. Introduce filler content. (Like Naruto)? or
3. Finish it with an alternate ending.
I hope that they'll never consider the third option. Both first and second options are fine by me. What are your thoughts?
I like number 2 the best.
Number 1 sounds good, but honestly, I think it's rare for an series that actually started once again once the manga is over. Usually, the anime gets restarted or more commonly, receives an oav revis
From the top of my head, Inuyasha is the only one l remember where it stopped to catch up with the manga, but ended up receiving ran
dom oav that has nothin to do with the storyes in the manga.
penguintruth
Aug 27 2009, 02:47 PM
Well, let's hope it never catches up with the manga before the manga ends! I'd rather them halt it for a while than introduce some odoius filler material. I mean, unless the "filler material" is taken from side stories Arakawa did.
We already got an alternate ending with the first series, for better or worse (your mileage varied). No need to do that again.
RoyxRizaFan
Aug 27 2009, 07:50 PM
Rather than a filler, how about a series of 'outtakes' showing all the humor they cut out from the manga?
My point is that if they're going to cut so much out, they'd better not do a filler. In fact, I'd rather it stopped for a while than a filler. Why whiz through the material on speed, cutting out a lot of humor, developement in side characters (remember the Devil's Nest episode?) and important details just to make filler episodes? Isn't it fillers like Majhal that aggravated FMA fans in the first place?
Forsaken Love
Aug 28 2009, 04:39 AM
agree, i personally will be furious, that they cut so much manga material, that wasn't in anime1 either only to make fillers, makes no scence, id be more willing to bet, they'd finish it, and do a movie to cover the ending, i mean fma is neally finished anyway, and with the pace they go through the episodes, they could probably easily cover a volume or so's worth in a film, and with the pace its going it looks like they are aiming for the same length anime as the first one
Mr. Deathy
Aug 29 2009, 09:54 AM
I'd hope they'd do the movie option as I'm POSITIVE they'd never even consider the halt in production, their only other choice would be to do an alternate ending which would be extremely stupid in this series.
Anyway the last few manga chapters have made this possibility seem more real. The series doesn't look as close to the end as I thought. I used to think it could be over by chapter 100 but now it looks like it could go on to 104 or even a little more. There's so much still to cover really.
Within 6 months, the anime will be at approximately episode 45-46 or so and by that point (if they're doing a 52 episode series) that means they'll already be working on the last episodes of the series, so will need the ending if they plan to finish it then.
Will the manga be finished within 6 chapters? Really hard to tell...
Hyperthia
Sep 3 2009, 07:32 PM
QUOTE (eddman @ Aug 27 2009, 04:00 AM)

~ After Brotherhood storyline catches up with FMA manga, what do you think would happen? ~
1. Halt the production, and continue it after a few years. (Giving manga time to develop)? or
2. Introduce filler content. (Like Naruto)? or
3. Finish it with an alternate ending.
I hope that they'll never consider the third option. Both first and second options are fine by me. What are your thoughts?
*Gets scared*
Not that! D:
I would hope that they halt production, but that is unlikely.
If they
must continue to make new episodes, they could (not that they should) make adaptations of the novels. Like, just as side stories or something. Or do Arakawa's(sp?) side stories that she has written.
I just hope that the ending of the manga is different from the anime and CoS!
Zenoseiya
Sep 4 2009, 07:37 AM
~ Spoilers: Hoenheim? Implications In Episode 21 ~
As of episode 20, Hoenheim is much more serious now, and he is clearly disappointed in Edward. At the beginning of episode 21, Bradley voices over that Father put him in charge of Mustang's fate while we view a shot of Hoenheim. That seems to rather heavily imply that they are one and the same. This scene was made up whole cloth for the anime.
Has BONES actually changed the storyline, or is it just a trick to confuse new viewers? Given their track record, I wouldn't be surprised if they turn it into a supernatural soap opera. Luke, I Am Your Father, indeed.
Sal_san
Sep 4 2009, 08:26 AM
I believe it's just a trick. After all, some of us first thought Father and Hohenheim were one and the same when we first read the manga... so BONES could just be pulling the same trick.
However, for the small, UNLIKELY chance BONES is making a new storyline... well, let's wait and see.
Forsaken Love
Sep 4 2009, 10:10 AM
dont scare me like that! Lol i highly doubt that, hoenhime and father have different voice actors and their hair is a slightly different colour too, these are things we wouldnt have seen in the manga, so i assumed that scene was to rebuild some of the suspence, even though its pretty shattered anyway
Krokgard
Sep 4 2009, 03:43 PM
I think it's just a trick. I also think that it would be a little bit stupid to announce that you (bones) are doing an Anime that follow the Manga's storyline, and than just disappoint this basilar premise.
Popogeejo
Sep 4 2009, 08:23 PM
They did the same thing in the manga. It's a classic method to keep the audience guessing.
Jealous Rogo
Sep 5 2009, 04:20 AM
It's just BONES trying to make up for the fact that they gave Father and Hohenheim different voice actors, thus shattering the illusion that they could be one in the same.
Also I doubt they'll go off the manga storyline, as that would probably tick off the few people that are actually watching the series.
zonkiethegreat
Sep 5 2009, 08:50 AM
Will episode 22 air this weekend???? I'm dieing to see it!!!
Kaori Ayanami
Sep 5 2009, 10:22 AM
They could start adapting the WHOLE chapters instead of just some parts. Maybe even the parts they have already missed, as a "behind the cameras" thing.
And also include the omakes.
They don't have to make up anything at all. Unless Arakawa drags out the manga a LOT more than expected, that is.
Tombow
Sep 5 2009, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I agree with everyone replied to
Zenoseiya's question. Thanks everyone with replying and answering.

And, that seems to be the standard answer, and it seems no new interesting theories on this are coming forward, so... before more people would keep adding posts with the same/similar answer.. I'm closing this one. But, in a short while I'm adding this to
FMA:B future episode content discussion thread so that if someone happens to have some fresh theory on this we can discuss it further there.
Anyone with more discussions on this or any other content speculation, story prediction, etc. on possible future episode content of FMA:B, please post that and discuss that on
FMA:B future episode content discussion thread.
ETA Sept. 13, 2009: Thread merged.
Thalogens
Sep 5 2009, 10:58 AM
I think option 1+2 are the best, I sort of prefer option 2 but I like the idea of outtakes, or animating the omakes. That would be hilarious. I think the worst filler in anime1 was the Psyren one, parts of it completely contradicted what Arakwa said, about there being no religion from our world there and yeah. It was too 'real'... I'm not making sense.
Forsaken Love
Sep 5 2009, 01:19 PM
lol practically the ENTIRE of anime 1 condridicted what Arakawa said XD
Tombow
Sep 5 2009, 04:30 PM
QUOTE (zonkiethegreat @ Sep 5 2009, 11:50 AM)

Will episode 22 air this weekend???? I'm dieing to see it!!!
@
zonkiethegreat - Yes, as far as I know, it's scheduled to air on usual time slot in Japan this week.
zonkiethegreat
Sep 5 2009, 10:23 PM
QUOTE (Tombow @ Sep 5 2009, 07:30 PM)

QUOTE (zonkiethegreat @ Sep 5 2009, 11:50 AM)

Will episode 22 air this weekend???? I'm dieing to see it!!!
@
zonkiethegreat - Yes, as far as I know, it's scheduled to air on usual time slot in Japan this week.

SWEET!!!!
thunderbreak
Sep 5 2009, 11:03 PM
will there any chances of the sunday broadcast being rescheduled?there's some rumours cos fma :b has not have good ratings particularly last ep.
Tombow
Sep 5 2009, 11:18 PM
QUOTE (thunderbreak @ Sep 6 2009, 02:03 AM)

will there any chances of the sunday broadcast being rescheduled?there's some rumours cos fma :b has not have good ratings particularly last ep.
I'm sure if they make any changes in the scheduled airing date/time we'll hear it very soon. Until then, lets not spread the rumor any further, and assume it would stay as is, till we hear otherwise.
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