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Tombow
QUOTE(Luthine @ Jun 12 2008, 02:25 PM) *
I recently got to the manga but I thought the "Grumman related to Hawkeye" was a theory that spun out before the famous Ch.58-59 went out.
I mean, Riza did state that she had no family left, or am I missing something?

@Luthine - I think, Perfect Guidebook, which is an official FMA guide, is listing Grumman as Riza's Grandfather. unsure.gif

I'm also curious to find out if Riza is there. And, if so, what's going to happen to Riza?
Although, Roy is still in the Central, right?

@Animeoldtimer: I agree. That one makes nice scene pic!!
@Becca-chan - Nice coloring job!!
@Winry Chan - I like your arrangement, too!!

Yeah, that is a cool looking scary scene with the way we are looking down, and we see the shadow coming behind Al. ^^
Becca-chan
Hehe thankies muchly Tombow. ^^
And also ( I can't believe I forgot to say this in my last post O_O; ) I want to say thank you Tombow, for the translation...and also a big thank you to sto, Aizen and bluwim for the RAW and mirror downloads of the RAW!
APalchemist5
Hmmmmm.......

Good chapter.....Need more as usual

I dont think Al is going to be dead, I was wondering, but no.

I am starting to think that the bad guys want to get Al's body back or atleast connect him with his body in the gate. That way he is stuck there, but yeah, Al is a sacrifice, they neeed him.

Hopefully.

Sensenic
QUOTE(Tombow @ Jun 12 2008, 08:54 PM) *
QUOTE(Luthine @ Jun 12 2008, 02:25 PM) *
I recently got to the manga but I thought the "Grumman related to Hawkeye" was a theory that spun out before the famous Ch.58-59 went out.
I mean, Riza did state that she had no family left, or am I missing something?

@Luthine - I think, Perfect Guidebook, which is an official FMA guide, is listing Grumman as Riza's Grandfather. unsure.gif


Yes. As far as I remember it was stated in Perfect Book 2...
But I'm doubting it more and more ever since the Ishval Flashback.

Maybe that was sth planned but abandoned? Maybe it was a mistake by the PGB2 author/s?
Figures...


No higher quality raw yet? ( ´A`)
Winry Chan
QUOTE(Sensenic @ Jun 13 2008, 05:38 AM) *
No higher quality raw yet? ( ´A`)


I'm waiting for a better scan to brighten up. Higher quality does allow for nice colour jobs...

@Becca-chan, nice colour job! It look even more creepy now...

@Tombow, thanks!

If Riza isn't at the East, Rebecca should definitely be. She's the one stationed in the East....

Two things I just realised as I am typing this:
o When Bradley transferred all of Mustang's subordinates, no one got sent back East... (Breda West, Fuery South, Falman North, Hawkeye President's Secretary)... I guess Bradley didn't want them to be in a familiar place that makes them comfortable to further stress the "Haha I've got you now, Mustang, you may know my secret but I have the power to make sure you never tell anyone by blackmailing you, haha"....
o and we've just had a time skip, right? It's spring?
So Ed's 16 now?
AA battery
Sto doesn't have a fast computer and internet connection, so it's very hard for her to upload the images onto webhosting sites (as a lot of them tend to time-out or die after 2-3 hours). Apparently, her connection can only afford to upload small size raws, so I think we should stop pushing her for HQ raws ^^;

I am sure it has nothing to do with sto's luck that she got the magazine earlier... you can always pre-roder them, and there ARE places in Japan where they sell the magazines 1 day earlier than the supposed pre-release date (and of course, it's not encouraged to do so, since it's bad for the sales of the stores who followed the rule and release on the release date), so Hong Kong, being close to Japan, can also get the magazine slightly earlier from those kinda store. (4 hours flight?) The price though... is probably at least 2~3x the actual price of the magazine itself (shipping is expensive x_x).

I got my FMA Dual Sympathy like 5 days after release date as well, and it's slightly more expensive than original price. (Well, the stores get them at whole-sale price, so it wasn't too bad.)

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QUOTE(Sensenic)
Yes. As far as I remember it was stated in Perfect Book 2...
But I'm doubting it more and more ever since the Ishval Flashback.


Why doubt it after the Ishbal Flashback? @_@
Riza was clearly protecting Roy during that part, no?

and here is that page of the PGB2 that STATES Grumman as Riza's grandpa on her mother's side. I think by "family" Riza probably only meant her parents/siblings (if there was any)

If it's a typo on the editor's side, I really don't think they'd go as far as saying "Hawkeye's grandpa on her mother's side"...



Grumman also implied to Roy before that "You gonna be Fuhrer anytime soon? Make my granddaughter the fuhrer's wife" anddd I really can't think of anyone other than Riza that fits the description XD It would be too curious if it's Lebecca...
Sensenic
QUOTE(AA battery @ Jun 13 2008, 08:44 AM) *
Sto doesn't have a fast computer and internet connection, so it's very hard for her to upload the images onto webhosting sites (as a lot of them tend to time-out or die after 2-3 hours). Apparently, her connection can only afford to upload small size raws, so I think we should stop pushing her for HQ raws ^^;


Not pushing her in particular, just being an impacient fanboy waiting for a HQ scan there, not necessarily from Sto (well, not necessarily "HQ" either, I mean, just readable size is ok, the 12-13 Mb packs we used to get).
We used to get them by the 13th as of late after all, before Sto's early scans came up... uh... last month was it?
I know about those uploaders being arrested stuff and I understand it might come later this month, I'm just eager. happy.gifU

As for the uploading page suggestion, I admit I didn't (don't) know her circumstances, just suggesting in case she didn't know...

My apologies to Sto if I put pressure on her. sleep.gif

QUOTE(AA battery @ Jun 13 2008, 08:44 AM) *
QUOTE(Sensenic)
Yes. As far as I remember it was stated in Perfect Book 2...
But I'm doubting it more and more ever since the Ishval Flashback.


Why doubt it after the Ishbal Flashback? @_@
Riza was clearly protecting Roy during that part, no?

and here is that page of the PGB2 that STATES Grumman as Riza's grandpa on her mother's side. I think by "family" Riza probably only meant her parents/siblings (if there was any)

If it's a typo on the editor's side, I really don't think they'd go as far as saying "Hawkeye's grandpa on her mother's side"...

Grumman also implied to Roy before that "You gonna be Fuhrer anytime soon? Make my granddaughter the fuhrer's wife" anddd I really can't think of anyone other than Riza that fits the description XD It would be too curious if it's Lebecca...


Not a typo, of course someone wouldn't type "Hawkeye's grandpa on her mother's side" by mistake. XD
I meant a mistake as in understanding from that Grumman's line ("marry my granddaughter") that Riza was so.

Why after the FB? Precisely because of Riza's comment of having no one left.
If both my parents were gone (and possible siblings whatsoever) but I had a grandfather alive and well and who loves me ("marry my granddaughter", again), I would pretty much consider myself "having someone left" to go to.

It's true that she did enroll later at the eastern headquarters, but then... The fact that there has been no other mention of it, even recently when there has been (indirect) interaction between both adds up to my doubt... For example Grumman could have told Rebecca "You're a good friend of my granddaughter Riza chan, aren't you?" or Riza could've asked Rebecca "you're granpa's favorite, aren't you?" They do talk one about the other but not once does the issue come up...

Really weird that the point doesn't appear anymore and only in PGB2.

I mean, you could argue they could be keeping it a secret, f.ex. to keep the bad guyz from learning that Grumman might be allied with Mustang.
OK, but then I say it's sth they could easily have learnt. One can think that when separating Mustang's team, the bad guyz must have checked their families in order to keep an eye on possible "contacts" and they would have noticed the relationship immediately.
Unless, that is, they had been hiding it from the very beginning and it's registered nowhere, but in that case once again I ask, "why?". They didn't know about any military-wide conspiracy back then...

Another possible explanation is Grumman hiding it from Riza, but again I fail to see the reason.

Yet another explanation, outside from the plot, would be Arakawa hiding it from the readers so when at the end we learn that Riza was the so called Grumman's granddaughter who Grumman had offered to Mustang all the way back then, the (royai specially) readers would go "OOOOOH!! Nice one! Didn't see it comin'!" But then why put it in the PGB2?

As you can see this "Grumman's granddaughter" affair has had me intrigued for quite a while... happy.gifU

EDIT: Oh, thanks for the scan BTW. I thought I had it but I don't remember this page at all so more goodies for me. happy.gifU

REDIT: Re-checked the chapter 60 FB scene and she does say that her mother never said anything about any relatives...
So I'd guess Riza's mother might have been perhaps the result of one of Grumman's affairs gone a little overboard? cool.gif
That'd be a reason for him to keep it secret... Or maybe not even know about it, and the Granddaughter he was offering Mustang would have been an "official" one. XD
Dunno, lol. XD
Causmicfire
At the end of chapter 60 Riza tells Roy both her mother and father were estranged from their families, so they never told her about her relatives.

In chapter 63, Grumman tells Roy about the time he was asked about what he thought of an immortal army. Now, he is vague about when he was asked about it using the words "sometime in the past", so I have no idea when it took place(Viz translation uses the phrase "years ago" if that helps at all), but it was before he got sent to Eastern. It maybe be that Grumman suspected something, and therefore has never outright told anyone that Hawkeye is his granddaughter.

Nice coloring Becca-chan!

...So, if Riza is with the Fuhrer in Eastern she, and if Al doesn't escape Pride and Gluttony then the two of them are stuck with the homunculi...again.

Unless someone else is keeping an "eye" on Riza, I doubt she won't be there, because we all know Pride has his limit. Is it bad to say I'm really hoping she's at Eastern, because that wouldn't necessarily be good for her

Thanks, Luthine
sto
sorry, I used lot of time for upload the pics, and I have a boat trip today, If not,I posted this already wink.gif

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Winry Chan
Thanks, sto! I'm going to brighten up the images a bit... will be back later with download link.

Edit: The title page isn't on the updated list. Shall I just use the previous LQ version?

Re-edit: I used the previous LQ version of the title page... I hope it's okay....

http://rapidshare.com/files/122138590/FMA84HQ-WinryChan.zip
Sensenic
Thanks a million, sto! m(_ _)m
Tombow
@sto - Thank you so much!! That really helps!!
I am sooo grateful for your efforts!! ^^ *hugs!!* happy.gif

@Winry Chan - Thank you!! That helps a lot, too!! ^^

Your guys are awesome!! ^^


@AA battery - Thank you for posting that scan!! I was looking for that!! ^^

There is also another page in the Guide, in the "Character Encyclopedia" section, under General Gurmman, he is also listed as Riza's grandfather. smile.gif
RoyxRizaFan
I'm also very curious about Riza's whereabouts right now, but it seems unlikely that Bradley would leave her in Central, because it kind of defeats the purpose of his plan to keep Roy seperated from his subordinates if there are no homonculi in Central right now...

I love the picture of Al and Pride you all put together! happy.gif

As for the grumman thing, I agree that it was either kept a secret because Riza was seperated from her mother's side of the family (this is what I also thought happened) or it could be about the immortal army thing...or maybe both. It should be interesting to see if it's ever brought up in the manga...

BTW, I'm in love with your avatar, Winry Chan! biggrin.gif
Becca-chan
@ Winrychan, Causmicfire - Hehe thankies muchly. ^^
I know at the end of it all, my right hand was hurting like crazy from all of that colouring ( since it was the hand I was holding the mouse in ^^; ) but I'm very happy to know that it turned out alright.

@ RoyxRizaFan - Thankies too happy.gif and I love Winrychan's version of the piccy with Pride and Al too.
Pride certainly does give all of us a good reason to be afraid of the dark! O.O ::
Animeoldtimer
Thanks @Becca-chan - &
@Winry Chan for your work on the drawing I suggested! I stink at coloring on the computer and It's nice to see people who are good at it.
Luthine
QUOTE
As you can see this "Grumman's granddaughter" affair has had me intrigued for quite a while...

Same here Sensenic happy.gif

And I have a hard time believing that Grumman would have let Mustang take care of Hawkeye's funeral and then started acting all grand fatherly-like by asking him to marry his Riza (as much as that would make me squee)

So yeah, either a mistake or some nice background story that we have yet to discover (I'm kinda hping for the story smile.gif )
Petra
Okay I just finished reading this chapter...and I am so shocked at how much taller Edward is now! *sob* Our Ed is growing up so fast! *wipes tear from eye* And as far as I am concerned, he didn't even say a THING about it which really shocks me, I thought he would be saying so much about it over and over again lol
And Pride...has made me 100,000 times more scared of the dark than ever before! I sure hope Al will be fine.

Though what I'm really wanting to see soon is how May doing...
HisshouBuraiKen
Here's my translation, hope you all enjoy:

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Page 1:
White text: Hurry!
Don't let his life's flame die out!

Title: Chapter 84 - In the Hunter's Shadow

Page 2:
SFX: Baaaaaaah Baaaaaah

SFX: Wahahaahaha
Kyaa-

Gerrod finishes iiiiin-
15:32.

Too slow!
You got lazy, Gerrod!
Shaddap!
People: Dwahahaha

Announcer: Will the next contestant come forward?

SFX, right to left: Chugachugachuga, Waaaa, Ahaha, Wah-, Wahaha

Someone: The roast lamb's ready!

Page 3:
Policeman: Boy, I wish I could go to the festival.
Woman: You'll get plenty of lamb to eat later, just keep doing your job.

Look, they're here.

SFX: SHEEEEEEEEEE

SFX: Chugachugachuga
SFX: SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

SFX: Katunk katunk katunk

Page 4:
Police: Welcome, sir.
SFX: Katunk katunk katunk
Miles: We appreciate your cooperation.

Hmm...You're having a festival, I take it?
Small bubbles: Who're those guys? Police?
They're in the army!
Cool!
Police: Yes sir, this is Resembool's famous "Spring Sheep Festival."

Miles: Well, I'm sorry we had to ruin the fun for you. We weren't planning to stop here, but the train's having a lot of problems.
Police: Should I call for a mechanic?
The faster we fix it, the faster you're all outta here!

Miles: No, that's okay.
We're headed for the Eastern HQ's training facility, we'll need to give it a thorough inspection.

Oh, right. Can I trouble you for one small favor?
Police: Sir?

Page 5:
Miles: We need to refill our water supply.
Police: Oh, go right ahead. Take as much as you need.
Solider: Bring out the tanks!

SFX: CLUNK CLUNK

SFX: Katang katang

SFX: Katang

SFX: Katang katang

SFX: Katooong

Page 6:
SFX: Knock knock

Guy: The door's locked.
Guy 2: No one's home?

Guy 2: We're here, miss.
SFX: Fwop

Winry: Thank you both!
SFX: PWAAAH

Guy: Your front door's locked, though.
Winry: Today's the Spring Sheep Festival, Grandma and Den must still be there.

Page 7:
Winry: this way,
We can get in through the back door.

Guy: Is there somewhere you can hide?
Winry: Yes, we've got a huge basement room, I should be fine down there.

Guy: Wow, check out all the automail!
Winry: Don't touch those, please.
My Grandma will get mad.

SFX: Creeeee
Winry: Whew, I haven't been here in forever.

Ick, everything's covered in dust...
I'll have to clean up tomorrow.

Page 8:
Ed: WAAAAAAAAGH
Winry: KYAAAAAAAAAH!

Page 9:
Guy: Is someone in there?!
Guy 2: You okay, miss?!
SFX: SLAM
Ed: WAAAAAAAGH!

Heinkel: Is someone in there?!
Darius: You okay, kid?!
Winry: KYAAAAAAH!

Den: BOWOWOWOWOWOW!
SFX: Chomp
Heinkel: OUUUCH!

Greed: What the hell is wrong with you people?
SFX: Yank
Den: YIPE YIPE YIPE!

Darius: Huh? You two are from Briggs-
Guy: You guys are Kimblee's men!

Page 10:
Winry: Lin?!
Greed: Huh?
Oh, you know him?
Den: Waaannnh waaanh

All SFX: ARF ARF ARF
The 4 Bodyguards: Easy, easy! Just put the gun down.
what's going on here?
YOU put YOUR gun down!
It's a LONG story...
No, YOU put YOURS down FIRST!
Stop shouting, you'll blow our cover!
Someone shut that goddamned dog up!
All Ed's SFX: Chew chew chew

Winry: GET THE HELL OUT OF MY ROOM, NOW!
SFX: KAPOW, WHOOSH

Winry: Huuuh Haaah

SFX: Turn
SFX: Gulp!

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Winry: I was so scared...

Ed: Y-yeah...I'm really sorry...
I'm glad you're safe, too-

Winry: Now exactly WHY were you hiding in MY room?
Ed: ...because it's the best place in the house...to watch for people trying to break in...

Pinako: What's all this, now? There's MORE of you filthy bums are dirtying up my house, now?
SFX: Klunk klunk

Pinako: Winry?
Winry: Grandma!

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Pinako: ...Thank goodness, you're all right.

Winry: Yes...
I'm sorry if I worried you.

Now who are THEY?!
guy: I'm very sorry for the disturbance, ma'am.
Guy 2: We're soldiers from Briggs, acting as Miss Winry's bodyguards

SFX: Loooooooom
Winry: Uhh...
Ed: We've been hiding out in your basement for a little while.

Winry: Lin...something about you seems different.
Ed: Oops.
I guess I never told you...

Greed: I'm Greed.
Nice to meetcha.

Winry: ...Wha?

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Winry: Oh...I see...
Greed: Yep, so now these three work for me.

Winry: Why did you come back here, though?
Hiding in Central would've been a lot easier.
Greed: Because I said so.

There's no way to tell where THEY have eyes in Central.
Plus, I've gotta make sure his automail's all tuned up.

Pinako: You'd better get to work, Winry.
You made all his latest stuff, I can't do the fine-tuning.
Winry: That's right...

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Ed: So Reole's starting to prosper again.
That's good, I always wondered how they made out.

Ed: And Al?
Winry: He's working with Mr. Miles. They can plan much better with an Alchemist who knows about everything on the team.

Your father went to Central ahead of him.
He's in some slum called "Kanama," you should go see him and have him explain the situation.

...So do you know anything about this "Promised Day" stuff?

Ed: Yeah, Greed told me.
That day will be a chance for us to get our bodies back...and the day where Amestris might be obliterated.

SFX: Clink clink

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Ed: Hey...
Winry: Hmm?

Ed: ...Take Grandma and Den
and go hide in another country.

SFX: KAPWANG

Winry: Are you SERIOUS?! What's the point of only telling your friends and family to run?!
Are you saying you can't stop all that from happening anymore?!

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Ed: We CAN stop it, and we WILL! But there's that small chance-
Winry: There's no SMALL CHANCE! There's no NOTHING!

You have to stop those guys and protect our country!
And you and Al have to get your original bodies back!
I have to do whatever I can to help!

Ed: Geez, talk about simplifying things...

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Winry: NOW what? You never give in that easily-
Ed: Oh my God, quit nagging me, woman!

Winry: Ed!
SFX: Cree

SFX: SLAM

Greed: Kheheheh...

That's a nice girl you got there.
Another form of greed.

Ed: When you get too greedy, it comes back and bites you in the [All hail lord Xenu].
SFX: wave wave
Ed: See this? I wanted to bring someone back from the dead, and this is what I ended up with.
Greed: Oh yeah?

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Greed: "I want to see my dead friend," "I want money," " I want women, "I want to protect the world." All "wants."
All "desires."

The raw emotion is the same mo matter what the object of desire is.
There are no "types" when it comes to greed.

You humans always get all holier-than-thou when it comes to this stuff...I really don't get you.
SFX: Hahaha
Ed: It's called having integrity, you should try it sometime.

Thanks Winry, Grandma.
Pinako: You gonna be okay? The trains don't run at this hour.

Greed: We're all outsiders...It's easier for us to just slip back into the shadows.
Ed: And the "promised day" is almost here, we can't waste any time.

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Winry: Make sure you listen to what your dad has to say, Ed.
Ed: Yeah, yeah. And you make sure to stay hidden.

I'll be back after all this "promised crap" is over.
So bake me an apple pie and keep it warm.

Winry: I will!!

Workers: Let's call it a day, boys!
Workers: See ya!

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Toad: Man, what a long day.
Zanpano: Let's hit that old guy's place and get some dinner.

Toad: This sure is whipping my [All hail lord Xenu] into shape, I tell ya what.
Zanpano: Yeah, you've dropped a ton of weight!
Yoki SFX: Wobble wobble

Toad: Should we really be doing this when the whole country's in danger?
Ah-!

Zanpano: Hey, Doc!
Marcoh: Oh, you're here. Sorry we took so long.

Toad: Took so long?! We've been walking all over the place looking for you!
We've gotta get moving before the sun sets!

Zanpano: I'll get our stuff from the apartment!

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Toad: We're going to Central
to meet up with Ed and Al's father.
I'll explain on the way.

It's kinda weird, ain't it?
An Ishvalan and army soldiers working towards the same goal.
Zanpano: Yeah, I guess it is.

Toad: We were born and raised to "protect this great nation" and all that,
Zanpano: Then again, we're really just tagging along with a bunch of genius alchemists hoping to turn our bodies back to normal...we're here for ourselves, too.

Toad: True...but Scar rebelled against Amestris, and now he's working to save it, too.
Zanpano SFX: Right, right.

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Scar: Let's get this straight.
I'm not here to SAVE Amestris.
I'm here to CHANGE it.

This country rejected the People of Ishvala, and I'm going to make it recognize them as humans again.

Teacher: You must become the change you wish to see in the world...

right?

Toad: Ishvalans?
Zanpano: Wha?
Marcoh: They weren't simply wandering aimlessly for all these months.

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Marcoh: They're comrades, united in their intentions.

Grumman: Northern Soldiers are as stiff-looking as ever, I see.
Horseman: My apologies.

They were trained under the previous commander, Major General Armstrong.
SFX: clop clop clop

Your Eastern soldiers all look to be in top shape, as well.
Grumman: Bwahahaha!
My experience in Ishval hasn't gone to waste, I assure you!

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Miles: I look forward to working with you again, Lieutenant General Grumman.
Grumman: Oh ho, if it isn't Major Miles...

Boy, I can't tell you how glad I was to hear we'd be doing our joint at my place!
The north's MUCH too cold for an old fart like me!
SFX: Hahahahaha
Everyone: He's never even gone up North once.

Grumman: Let's do our best, eh?
Miles: Just try to go easy on us.

Grumman: Everything's ready on our end.
SFX: whisper whisper
Miles: Ours, too.

Grumman: Unfortunately, a TEENSY little problem's popped up...
Miles: ..What do you mean?

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Grumman: Little ol' Bradley came to watch the show.

Miles: We'd accounted for the possibility of Central observing the joint training since the "Promised day" is so close, but...
Grumman: The boss man's here and it really threw a wrench into things, eh?
Ahhh, I'm getting fed up with all this.

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Grumman: Haah...
we'll just have to figure something out.

SFX: Twitch
Al: Nnh-

Page 27:
Al: .......
it happened again...
SFX: CLANK

Al: I feels like I'm getting pulled away more and more often...

I've got to hurry...
If I don't get my body back soon...
SFX: Sliiide

SFX: Plink

SFX: drip drip drip
Gluttony(!): I smell him...I smell him!

I smell the Fullmetal Alchemist's brother!

Page 28:
SFX: Griiiiiiiiin [H: Nothing beats the Gluttony "EAT TIME" grin]

Al: Oh-

Page 29:
Al: ...., ...., ....!
SFX: DASH

SFX: Clank clank clank
Al: I can't afford to fight him with my body giving out on me!

What now?
...Should I try to destroy his Philosopher's Stone like Dr. Marcoh?

I messed up...
I never thought there'd be another Homunculus besides the one who sent out the Fuhrer!

I've gotta warn everyone-

Page 30:
SFX: ZuuuZOOO

Page 31:
SFX: FWIIIING

Al: Rrgh-
Nnh-
SFX: CLANK
Zoruzoruzoruzoruzoru

Al: What...IS this...
SFX: Squeeeeze

SFX: Gasp

Al: ...hh-
SFX: Wobble, thud

Page 32:
Al: Not now...not now...
SFX: Slump

SFX: WHAM

SFX: Skreee, Zuru

SFX: Zuruzuruzuru

SFX: CLOOOOONG

Page 33:
SFX: ZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZUZU

Page 34:
All SFX: Zuo zuo

Text: Alphonse is captured! Is this it?!
nekogirl L
Anyone know when the translated version will be out? The suspense is driving me nuts.......wacko.gif
Sensenic
QUOTE(Becca-chan @ Jun 13 2008, 05:41 PM) *
Pride certainly does give all of us a good reason to be afraid of the dark! O.O ::


Actually it's rather the opposite if you think about it... When it's all dark no shadows are casted and Pride is powerless (or at least not able to notice your presence).
If anything Pride would give us a reason to be afraid of the light! See those poor soldiers
tongue.gif

QUOTE(Luthine @ Jun 13 2008, 08:42 PM) *
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As you can see this "Grumman's granddaughter" affair has had me intrigued for quite a while...

Same here Sensenic happy.gif

And I have a hard time believing that Grumman would have let Mustang take care of Hawkeye's funeral and then started acting all grand fatherly-like by asking him to marry his Riza (as much as that would make me squee)

So yeah, either a mistake or some nice background story that we have yet to discover (I'm kinda hping for the story smile.gif )


Guess it's not that much of a big issue to be told a story about... Maybe if we have a Mustang.Hawkeye wedding in the end, or if sth bad happens to Riza it might come up...


Thanks for the translation, Hisshou!
Winry Chan
Thanks for the translation, HisshouBuraiKen! My friend over at Mangahelpers (she uses the same name) said you were going to translate soon. ^^
rules23
Do you suppose Ed finally got taller because Al's soul is losing it's connection to a body?
edo little kid
Ed taller than winry dry.gif

I don't like that thing wacko.gif
bluwim
wow! thanks to all... Tombow, Winry-chan, sto, HisshouBuraiKen,... I was lost, and i've found very news!!! Thanksssssssssss!!!

The chapter looks very strange for me... All things pass very fast, the meeting Ed-Win is very very cool... (poor Winry, Ed is very rude with her... I only love the "wait for me" theme). I suppose the earrings will have importance in the last chapters.... And all of us know that Pride can't do anything to Al... he's a sacrifice!!!
HisshouBuraiKen
There are some scanlations out at:

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32969

Winry Chan - So wait, the Winry Chan at MH isn't you?
Petra
They've got the chapter translated now!

http://www.onemanga.com/Full_Metal_Alchemist/84/
Winry Chan
HisshouBuraiKen, actually, the Winry Chan at MH is my best friend. I know more English than her, so I help her sometimes. I learned my English by watching TV and reading literature in English. I also read manga, too, and see how much I understand from the English version before I read the Chinese version. It helps a lot, and I taught my friend the technique I use.

As for MH, she was visiting one day and I was just setting up an account over there when she asked if she should also join an online forum. I figured I'd be busy enough with this forum and OneManga.com and my other English studies, so I let her have the account.

Although I must say, I think we're both learning more slang than is necessary... happy.gif
AA battery
sto thank you for the bigger resolution scans~
QUOTE(rules23 @ Jun 13 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Do you suppose Ed finally got taller because Al's soul is losing it's connection to a body?
=o It's possible!

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bluwim
Wow! thank u very much, AA battery!!! downloading ^^
Winry Chan
Thanks, AA Battery! ^^
Luthine
QUOTE(Winry Chan @ Jun 15 2008, 05:30 AM) *
I learned my English by watching TV and reading literature in English.


Héhé, nice to see I'm not the only one who did that happy.gif
Tombow
Thank you, AA battery!!! *hugs!!* happy.gif

@HisshouBuraiKen - I was wondering where you're!! XD Thanks!! ^^

Guys, thanks for posting the links to the scanlation!!


Also, reminder to everyone:
*cough* Please try to keep your post "on topic" in this forum. XD
I think, occasionally adding some off topic stuff as an addition to your on topic post content is fine, but if you're writing a post with only about your personal stuff and no on-topic content, or, if you'd just like to chat off-topic stuff, then please post those on chat thread, or use your PM instead. ^^
Dhazard06
QUOTE(AA battery @ Jun 15 2008, 01:44 AM) *
sto thank you for the bigger resolution scans~
QUOTE(rules23 @ Jun 13 2008, 11:12 PM) *
Do you suppose Ed finally got taller because Al's soul is losing it's connection to a body?
=o It's possible!

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AA Battery, thanks a lot ^^" I miss those days I was able to connect to share (my upload sucks right now)
BTW, did you happen to have stumbled upon a higher resolution raw of chapter 83?
Thanks again biggrin.gif
The random alchemist
I haven't been around because I was having an FMA slump. but the new chapter has Gluttony again so my love has returned :> I can finally look forward to buying another chapter with him in it.

PS: See, I told all of you he'd be back >:[. so to the people that told me he was perma-dead you can go jump off a small hill.
AA battery
QUOTE(Dhazard06 @ Jun 15 2008, 08:17 AM) *
AA Battery, thanks a lot ^^" I miss those days I was able to connect to share (my upload sucks right now)
BTW, did you happen to have stumbled upon a higher resolution raw of chapter 83?
Thanks again biggrin.gif





Why yes.

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... Now to think of it, Ed doesn't know about Al's situation (as in, Al's soul is currently "loosely" attached to the armor) at all!!! After all, it didn't start happening until Al separated from Ed to search for Winry and the others. And Winry didn't tell him about it either! Bad Winry! Isn't it obvious what a serious condition Al is in? After all, it happened before her eyes, and she knows that it had happened twice!
Dhazard06
Thanks a lot, AA battery! biggrin.gif
AA battery
No problem =)

I hope this scanner will scan the future chapters too. ^^ Whoever it is, it's appreciated.
Sensenic
QUOTE(AA battery @ Jun 16 2008, 12:11 AM) *
... Now to think of it, Ed doesn't know about Al's situation (as in, Al's soul is currently "loosely" attached to the armor) at all!!! After all, it didn't start happening until Al separated from Ed to search for Winry and the others. And Winry didn't tell him about it either! Bad Winry! Isn't it obvious what a serious condition Al is in? After all, it happened before her eyes, and she knows that it had happened twice!


Whoa, true...
This and Ed not giving the earrings back makes me worry.

Story-wise, why wouldn't Winry tell Ed about Al? Why wouldn't Ed give the earrings back to Winry as promised, now that both met again?
And from, uh..., "outside" maybe it happened but Arakawa just skipped it? Did she forget both points?
Either way it worries me, makes me think she might be putting less care into it... ph34r.gif sad.gif

Thanks for the higher-res scans happy.gif

EDIT: Nope, forget she didn't, at least about the earrings (it was highly unlikely anyway), took a look at the hi-res scans and Winry does have the earring holes. (All 6 of 'em XD )
ladykylie
OMG nooooooooooooooooooooooo! my little alphonse!!!
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RoyxRizaFan
good points about Winry's earrings and Al. I hope Arakawa isn't giving up on FMA yet!

This is a silly idea me and my friends thought of to have an interview with the characters from the chapter. Maybe Ill do some old ones, but this is what I have so far

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4322753/1/Full...s_Interviews_by
Summerlover01
Oh... my... gosh... *pant* *pant* Ed is taller than Winry!! When did that happen! *clears throat* Sorry about that. Anyways, another great chapter. Things really seem to be coming to a conclusion.
Winry Chan
I posted this over at OneManga.com forums as well:
I was just re-reading the past few chapters and I thought of an idea for the "Promised Day".

What if that day is the same day that Ed and Al lost their bodies? If Father wanted to create a "Portal" (as he did Gluttony), he would first need to see the real one. Maybe his plan was to wait for the day that a strong enough alchemist can pass through the Portal and come out alive so he can be sure of their "human sacrifice" capabilities. And when Ed and Al attempted to transmute their mother, Father knew about it and set the date; however, the country-wide circle wasn't complete. Now that it's been completed....

Agree, disagree. I don't care. I just had to get it out.
APalchemist5
@winry chan

I know alot of people think it is some astrological line up that determines the Promise Day, and I dont see why your theory couldn't work.

Ah! I want to know what the promise day is soo badly!

I did love this chapter.

Winry is Ed are cute, but I was hoping for something like the earing scene from before sad.gif

What I loved about this chapter though was I was starting to lose faith in the antagonists. I mean Marcoh can destroy philosopher stones easily, and Greed rebelled and envy was defeated.

I started to feel like Ed, Al, Marcoh, Hohenheim, Scar, all the chimeras, Ling, (note the huge list of amazing kick-[All hail lord Xenu] protagonist) could easily and utterly destroy the homunculous.

Then at the end of this chapter Pride and Gluttony creeped the heck out of me, and I knew that there was still fight left in the bad guys.

Way to go Pride! Thanks for renewing my faith in evil smile.gif

Sannom
QUOTE
Way to go Pride! Thanks for renewing my faith in evil


Now, all the underlings and inefficient ones (Envy...) are out of the pictures, the only ones left are the extremely cunning and dangerous : Pride, Wrath and Kimblee. So sure I expect them to kick [All hail lord Xenu] (I love that sentence! What kind of censorship is this???).
jacksparrow589
Winry-chan- That'd be an excellent way to make the story come full-circle! (I just love it when stories do that!) And people have definitely been right about future plot twists before. (Ex. Greed!Ling's deciding to go his own way. I forget who said it, but it was awesome!) I think that'd be a great way for things to end up! I can just see Ed clueing in on this. "Ohhhhh snap..."

If I didn't say this before (can't remember if I posted here and I'm too lazy to check at the moment), thanks to all those who supplied scans and translations! You all rock!
Petra
@Winry Chan Thats a great idea! I can really see that happening. It would make an interesting twist to the end of the manga.

I have to say, I'm sure we all know that by the looks of things, the manga is coming to an end. I'm excited that the story will be done and we'll know how the end will turn out. Though at the same time, I don't want it to end. Because, what am I gonna look forward to once its done and over with? Buying all the volumes and waiting for the last translated ones to come out?

I remember reading on Live Journal somewhere, that someone said that if whoever read chapter 84 and still didn't believe in EdwardxWinry yet, she would do something bad(can't remember what, but it involved pain). Sorry to disappoint all you fans, but I still don't believe. Yes, I'm that hard to convert. lol
RoyxRizaFan
QUOTE
What if that day is the same day that Ed and Al lost their bodies? If Father wanted to create a "Portal" (as he did Gluttony), he would first need to see the real one. Maybe his plan was to wait for the day that a strong enough alchemist can pass through the Portal and come out alive so he can be sure of their "human sacrifice" capabilities. And when Ed and Al attempted to transmute their mother, Father knew about it and set the date; however, the country-wide circle wasn't complete. Now that it's been completed....

Agree, disagree. I don't care. I just had to get it out.


I like the idea. It seems very possible.

QUOTE
I have to say, I'm sure we all know that by the looks of things, the manga is coming to an end. I'm excited that the story will be done and we'll know how the end will turn out. Though at the same time, I don't want it to end. Because, what am I gonna look forward to once its done and over with? Buying all the volumes and waiting for the last translated ones to come out?


I've been thinking about that too, but at the moment the rabid RoyAi fangirl in me is just anxious to get a freaking chapter with the two of them in it, no matter what it takes. devil2.gif JK Well, after I get my fix I'll probably be like, "What? It's almost over! *cries*" So, overall I agree with you and am very anxious at the same time not looking forward to an end to FMA. Its one of those things when you'll read the last chapter, be like, "WOW, what a great ending! (hopefully)" and then be like, "Wait, ending???" Heh, now I'm rambling...

QUOTE
I remember reading on Live Journal somewhere, that someone said that if whoever read chapter 84 and still didn't believe in EdwardxWinry yet, she would do something bad(can't remember what, but it involved pain). Sorry to disappoint all you fans, but I still don't believe. Yes, I'm that hard to convert. lol


Edwin is definitely something that not everyone is on the same page about. I can absolutely agree that its not cannon in the anime but I seem to believe that its cannon in the manga...I guess we'll only see after the series ends LOL
Sannom
There is little place for couple imagination in FMA tough (manga wise at least) laugh.gif I mean, who else that we know, beside Winry, could end up with Ed at the end? Same for Riza and Roy! Lin and Ran Fan, Alphonse and May are not so obvious or "sure" but they're still liked (and I can't imagine Alphonse with any other than May now tongue.gif ). The Lin and Ran Fan still has the big obstacle that he is the master and she is the servant, what kind of story could happen between them? Out of all the characters, the only one that hasn't a girl is Scar (and that is not fair!) huh.gif

For comparison, take Naruto : NaruHina, NaruSaku are still popular and really plausible. Heck, I could even see NaruSasu as plausible in that show!
APalchemist5
I will not make anyyyyy predictions about love connections, they will not come true, i am some kindof jinx, what ever i think will happen, does not happen!

When this manga ends, I will possibly have no reason to live!

So I am hoping for a thousand more chapters, I think they should finish up this Promise day thing, and then have another problem! and another and another!

(yes i did like DBZ when i was younger....which would explain this desire right?)



jacksparrow589
Petra- I see your point. From a logical standpoint, Ed doesn't neccesarily have to love Winry that way to freak out when she starts to undress or to tell her to wait and make apple pie. The guy is only a teenager, after all (referring to the undressing), and he can have a bit of a hero complex sometimes, and he just wants people to have the best life they can (referring to the rest of this).

THAT SAID, I am a staunch EdWin supporter, but I won't force my beliefs on people. Spirited debate (not flame wars- there's a huge difference) is one of my favorite past-times!

I don't want the manga to come to an end, but this is the "Promised Day". If that doesn't say "finale" to anyone, I don't know what does. But I'm buyin' all the books just so that I can re-read them... and convert my friends to manga!
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