Sydney
Oct 9 2006, 07:55 PM
It took for a while, but here we are... the topic of a new anime is no longer one of speculation, and hence, this thread is getting closed. But, we have a new forum for the discussions of the new FMA anime series:
FMA: Brotherhood anime discusiion forumHope to see you there!!!
~ Tombow
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~ Another Fma Anime...based on FMA Manga!? ~Okay, checked the Ed gallery here, clicked on an interesting pic...(
http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...i&img=14013 )...and it talked a little about a
TV commercial of FMA manga...then made the suggestion of checking it out on youtube. (FYI, there are more pics posted of that same commercial, but more detailed.)
So I looked for it like mad (found it relatively quick, even if afterwards, I found there was a link right there in that pic's comments).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COaphkv02YQIt's too short, I want more, and Al's my favorite, such fantastic art/animation there.... (Well, Al's always my favorite.

)
So I'm wondering...is this like an answer to some prayers, hopes to see more of the manga storyline animated, its specific characters of Ling--okay, really all of Xing, and now apparently Armstrong's older sister, other versions of Pride and Sloth, etc.? (Oh please, oh please, oh
please let it be true....)
I stand by the belief that FMA is good enough to animate further, that it has not reached a point of "this is enough."
So...thoughts, opinions, anyone think this could be the real deal?
Popogeejo
Oct 9 2006, 08:14 PM
With the ammount of money FMA can and is making it's not supprising they have an animated advert, it's not much of an expense compared to the amount of extra manga volumes it will shift.
Still, I think an advert is as much as you will get. (Maybe a sequel to the movie but thats it.)
Nepharski
Oct 9 2006, 09:24 PM
Sounds like they're pulling a Hellsing. If such is the case, that's certainly great news. All the wonderful things in the Manga that never made it into the Anime. Bradley vs. Greed, Ling, Mustang vs. Lust, the real Ishbal Rebellion. Let's hear it for commerce.
The commercial makes Edward's head look fat, though. Hopefully they can iron that out.
Buddi-chan
Oct 9 2006, 10:08 PM
As far as I can tell (and from what people said in the video comments), that's just a Japanese commercial for the manga that just happened to be animated. I wouldn't get your hopes up about the manga being fully animated. *pushes hopes back into the basement*
Sorry to be the party pooper, but I don't want anyone getting any ideas; these little rumor things spread like wildfire.
And honestly? I don't like the way Ed looked in that clip anyway. His ears were to big or something. Or maybe it's because I've become used to the older looking Ed of the newer manga chapters... whatev.
Nepharski
Oct 9 2006, 11:21 PM
QUOTE(Buddi-chan @ Oct 9 2006, 10:08 PM) [snapback]457675[/snapback]
And honestly? I don't like the way Ed looked in that clip anyway. His ears were to big or something. Or maybe it's because I've become used to the older looking Ed of the newer manga chapters... whatev.
Thank you.
Sensenic
Oct 9 2006, 11:34 PM
QUOTE (Buddi-chan @ Oct 10 2006, 07:08 AM)

As far as I can tell (and from what people said in the video comments), that's just a Japanese commercial for the manga that just happened to be animated. I wouldn't get your hopes up about the manga being fully animated. *pushes hopes back into the basement*
Sorry to be the party pooper, but I don't want anyone getting any ideas; these little rumor things spread like wildfire.
Yeah,
it's a very old GanGan ad. It was posted on the hagaren_manga LJ community some months ago.
I must add that
not only it isn't new... but in fact, older than the anime itself. This can be guessed not only by how Ed and Al look (it's their earlier designs from Vol.1 and 2. Look at not only Ed's face, but also how "spiky" Al looks), but also from the fact the "Enix" logo appears there.... And it has been "SquareEnix" for a long while already. In fact, IIRC, the anime already appears as a SquareEnix production... am I rite?
Tombow
Oct 10 2006, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(Sensenic @ Oct 10 2006, 02:34 AM) [snapback]457708[/snapback]
I must add that not only it isn't new... but in fact, older than the anime itself. This can be guessed not only by how Ed and Al look (it's their earlier designs from Vol.1 and 2. Look at not only Ed's face, but also how "spiky" Al looks), but also from the fact the "Enix" logo appears there.... And it has been "SquareEnix" for a long while already. In fact, IIRC, the anime already appears as a SquareEnix production... am I rite?
I concur with
Sensenic. I believe that one is older than FMA anime series.
AA battery
Oct 10 2006, 12:43 AM
QUOTE(Tombow @ Oct 10 2006, 12:28 AM) [snapback]457715[/snapback]
QUOTE(Sensenic @ Oct 10 2006, 02:34 AM) [snapback]457708[/snapback]
I must add that not only it isn't new... but in fact, older than the anime itself. This can be guessed not only by how Ed and Al look (it's their earlier designs from Vol.1 and 2. Look at not only Ed's face, but also how "spiky" Al looks), but also from the fact the "Enix" logo appears there.... And it has been "SquareEnix" for a long while already. In fact, IIRC, the anime already appears as a SquareEnix production... am I rite?
I concur with
Sensenic. I believe that one is older than FMA anime series.

Thirded.
Sydney
Oct 10 2006, 07:52 AM
Huh.
No wonder I liked Al in the advert so much, I've always had such a weak spot for..."spiky" Al.

Though...
QUOTE(Nepharski @ Oct 9 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]457669[/snapback]
Sounds like they're pulling a Hellsing. If such is the case, that's certainly great news. All the wonderful things in the Manga that never made it into the Anime. Bradley vs. Greed, Ling, Mustang vs. Lust, the real Ishbal Rebellion. Let's hear it for commerce.
...I'd still hope for it. (Hopefully I won't be terribly crushed if it never pans out.)
*And now I wonder if any hopes for further animation lies in when the manga actually ends...'cause, it seems reasonable to do any sort of manga-centric animation when said manga is finished, so you could make all the proper plot decisions with an informed opinion....
TheSnig
Oct 10 2006, 01:47 PM
I don't really think it's gonna happen, but if it does I will be sooooo happy... Ling is my favourite character and I was so sad that he wasn't in the anime. Also, I think the story gets more interesting in the manga right after the anime kind of splits off on another direction. *mutters to self while typing* I won't get my hopes up, I won't... but now that you've said that, I probably will.
The New Fullmetal Alchemist
Oct 12 2006, 08:18 PM
That's awesome! thank you for posting it!! Maybe they will pull a "Hellsing"... The series is certianly popular enough, and it's already been said (by the producer of the anime series) that more isn't not possible - it all depends on what Arakawa wants... ^^
dahomunculi
Oct 13 2006, 01:37 PM
QUOTE(TheSnig @ Oct 10 2006, 04:47 PM) [snapback]457862[/snapback]
I don't really think it's gonna happen, but if it does I will be sooooo happy... Ling is my favourite character and I was so sad that he wasn't in the anime. Also, I think the story gets more interesting in the manga right after the anime kind of splits off on another direction. *mutters to self while typing* I won't get my hopes up, I won't... but now that you've said that, I probably will.
quoting the truth : )
Kirara
Oct 13 2006, 01:39 PM
Arakawa once said that anime and manga are different mediums and thus the stories should be different. So I doubt it will ever happen. But if it does it would be after the manga is complete which won't be for at least another year probably even longer.
Funderful
Oct 13 2006, 02:43 PM
This was already posted forever ago, But yeah, it's just a manga ad.
Older then the anime.
--Damn, That was already posted to.
Eh. Wouldn't it be great if they did, though?
I'd love to see the manga animated, with Ling, too. >_>
Alxchemist
Oct 13 2006, 08:24 PM
i dont like how he looks (animed manga ed does look like anime ed) so it would take me some time to get used to it.
and they would make another movie other then a whole other series or bring fma back in 10 years when the manga is over and when they're not making money. So that it would be more right (personally would lke it more cuz it is more correct)
but japan is interesting so who knows!
pawnedbyme
Nov 23 2006, 05:53 PM
QUOTE (Sydney @ Oct 9 2006, 07:55 PM)

Okay, checked the Ed gallery here, clicked on an interesting pic...(
http://www.fullmetal-alchemist.com/forums/...i&img=14013 )...and it talked a little about a
TV commercial of FMA manga...then made the suggestion of checking it out on youtube. (FYI, there are more pics posted of that same commercial, but more detailed.)
So I looked for it like mad (found it relatively quick, even if afterwards, I found there was a link right there in that pic's comments).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COaphkv02YQIt's too short, I want more, and Al's my favorite, such fantastic art/animation there.... (Well, Al's always my favorite.

)
So I'm wondering...is this like an answer to some prayers, hopes to see more of the manga storyline animated, its specific characters of Ling--okay, really all of Xing, and now apparently Armstrong's older sister, other versions of Pride and Sloth, etc.? (Oh please, oh please, oh
please let it be true....)
I stand by the belief that FMA is good enough to animate further, that it has not reached a point of "this is enough."
So...thoughts, opinions, anyone think this could be the real deal?
I like the movie but too much of it will make it bad casue i like the manga storyline better
WeiS Blitz
Feb 20 2008, 09:59 AM
Do you think that they will produce another anime when the manga ends? A lot of popular series have spawned multiple series and remakes, and Fullmetal Alchemist has been doing good both in Japan and overseas.
Regardless of whether or not it actually happens, do you WANT another anime? The first drifted very far off topic, but they had passed the manga's current storyline at the time. Would you want another anime based more solidly on the manga?
My own answers:
I don't know if they would make another anime, but I think it would be nice. There are a lot of things from the manga that I want to see animated.
Animeoldtimer
Feb 20 2008, 12:17 PM
I answered 'no' to the question " Do you think that they will make another anime after the manga ends?"
However, I really don't know how they do things in Japan. In the U.S. depending on the popularity of a show they will come up with new series' such as with Superman, Batman etc. What do they do with similar Manga based series in Japan?
I answered "YES!" to watching a new series based on the manga. It would be really cool to see some of the scenes played out. I would love to see the Briggs scenes animated. I also like Winry, Ed and Al's personalities so much better in the manga.
WeiS Blitz
Feb 20 2008, 12:23 PM
QUOTE(Animeoldtimer @ Feb 20 2008, 01:17 PM)

I answered 'no' to the question " Do you think that they will make another anime after the manga ends?"
However, I really don't know how they do things in Japan. In the U.S. depending on the popularity of a show they will come up with new series' such as with Superman, Batman etc. What do they do with similar Manga based series in Japan?
I answered "YES!" to watching a new series based on the manga. It would be really cool to see some of the scenes played out. I would love to see the Briggs scenes animated. I also like Winry, Ed and Al's personalities so much better in the manga.
A lot of popular anime/manga series are remade. Hellsing and Evangelion are two of the big ones, but I know that there are more.
It's like here in the US. If something is popular, they'll remake it.
Becca-chan
Feb 20 2008, 01:08 PM
I answered 'no' to both questions on the poll. ^^;;
As much as I know that a lot of people will possibly disagree with me for this, I prefer there just being a distinctive anime which is the Fullmetal Alchemist anime that already exists.
The anime was the thing that got me into the FMA fandom in the first place...and I wouldn't really want to see it replaced by another version that resembled the manga that the original series was based on.
And while I will admit that there are *some* scenes in the manga that I would like to see animated concerning interaction between characters... there are also a lot of scenes that I *wouldn't* like to see animated.
( Shou getting his brains blasted out, Greed's chimera's getting a less than honorable death at the hands of Wrath, Lust looking like some freaky zombie thing, Havoc being paralysed and the 'grave' of corpse-like Homunculi in underground Central being just a few of them...)
Don't get me wrong, I do respect the manga and do actually like it to some extent...but I like the anime more.
But I think the manga should just stay a manga.
RoyxRizaFan
Feb 20 2008, 01:47 PM
Alright...Maybe they WILL make another anime. It could be possible because the manga is so popular.
Do I want one? I agree, there are a lot of scenes i'd love to see in the form of an anime. Plus, this way, I could get friends who are too lazy to read the manga to watch it. I wouldn't want one because they would probably assasinate the characters just as they had before. Plus, anime Mei chan? *Shudders* at least a second anime could prove EdxWinry and RoyxRiza, while the anime was, no offense to all who support this pairing, EdxRoy...*shudders again*
Alchemical
Feb 20 2008, 02:03 PM
No, I really doubt they'll make another series. Hell, even another movie seems too far out to get. An OVA, perhaps, but not a series.
As for
wanting one... I kind of do. I don't think they'd ruin my perspective on the manga if they animated it, but it wouldn't be as good. I don't think they can pull off another FMA anime, and it be as... epic, as the first, even with this amazing manga plotline.
Of course, I
do have a handful of scenes from the manga I'd like to see animated...
QUOTE
at least a second anime could prove EdxWinry and RoyxRiza, while the anime was, no offense to all who support this pairing, EdxRoy...*shudders again*
... It
wasn't EdRoy.
Little Fixster
Feb 20 2008, 02:34 PM
I doubt they'd make another one, but I would love an anime that closely followed the manga.
But what would they call it anyways?
Fullmetal Alchemist : The One that Actually Follows The Manga
I would definitely like it alot more than the current anime for it. (The manga has so much more depth and reason than the anime does, in my opinion at least.)
Petite-Parfait
Feb 20 2008, 05:08 PM
There are many scenes I'd just love to see animated that are from the manga! An anime based on the manga would be the most BA thing I've seen as far as anime series go. I sincerely doubt it will happen, though. What with the huge popularity of BONES' FMA, having DVD releases, a movie, merchandise, even video games, etc., it seeems unlikely that a remake will be made. Comming together to make an anime takes a lot of planning, work, time, and most importantly, money; it is a business. I don't believe that other companies will be willing to do what's already been done, albeit it being more manga-related.
Actually, many Japanese fans have come to respect the FMA anime and the manga as separate works, seeing how although they stemmed from one concept, they've grown to be very different. Characterization was a big difference as well, not only the plot; Winry is a prime example: I love her to bits and pieces in the manga, but I don't enjoy her anime appearances. Her tendancy to say surprising things and laugh is increased to unlikable levels to make up for the other characters who've lost such facets in the anime. Ed's a quirky, very multi-faceted, flehsed out character who's just flatout a goofball at times and a very mature, stern individual at others. Anime! Ed had a cooler personality, acted more world-weary, and was plainly just so darn depressed during the whole series. I understand that it'd be natural for him to push away from people sometimes, but the consistancy of which he did it was very unnatural and unlikeable.
QUOTE
Fullmetal Alchemist : The One that Actually Follows The Manga
That made me laugh. xD It's so true.
QUOTE(Alchemical @ Feb 20 2008, 03:03 PM)

No, I really doubt they'll make another series. Hell, even another movie seems too far out to get. An OVA, perhaps, but not a series.As for
wanting one... I kind of do. I don't think they'd ruin my perspective on the manga if they animated it, but it wouldn't be as good. I don't think they can pull off another FMA anime, and it be as... epic, as the first, even with this amazing manga plotline. Of course, I
do have a handful of scenes from the manga I'd like to see animated...
QUOTE
at least a second anime could prove EdxWinry and RoyxRiza, while the anime was, no offense to all who support this pairing, EdxRoy...*shudders again*
... It
wasn't EdRoy.
The anime was pretty much free of pairings, and any pairing could be seen in it if lead to believe that it existed. It's very simple and amusing to read too much into the dialoge between characters and make it out to be something it's not.
Automne
Feb 20 2008, 06:05 PM
No.
The random alchemist
Feb 20 2008, 06:08 PM
OK, I don't think they'll make one but I WOULD LOVE if they did. There's a lot of characters from the manga that would be awesome to see animated such as Ling, Garfield, Sloth etc...
I always found the anime lack the charm and character development the manga has so thus I prefer the manga story. Maybe they should do an OVA based on it at the least *shrug*
Petite-Parfait
Feb 20 2008, 07:30 PM
QUOTE(The curious alchemist @ Feb 20 2008, 07:08 PM)

OK, I don't think they'll make one but I WOULD LOVE if they did. There's a lot of characters from the manga that would be awesome to see animated such as Ling, Garfield, Sloth etc...
I always found the anime lack the charm and character development the manga has so thus I prefer the manga story. Maybe they should do an OVA based on it at the least *shrug*
I'm in favor on an OVA! : D They should be released like the manga-based Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle: Tokyo Revelations OVAs and sold as a limited time bonus with the mangas.
<3 That sounds grand.
AA battery
Feb 21 2008, 04:24 PM
It seems unlikely since BONES already closed off the anime production blog like, right after the movie premier.
I picked maybe for the later one, since I don't know how good the anime will be... if it stays 100% to the manga then I suppose it will be good, however, manga chapter 75-79 have been rather crappy...
Petite-Parfait
Feb 21 2008, 06:42 PM
QUOTE(AA battery @ Feb 21 2008, 05:24 PM)

however, manga chapter 75-79 have been rather crappy...
Well, we're all human, even our praised cow goddess. There's bound to be some burnout or slow period in any story to get those extra details of what's going on eslewhere in the plot to move the story foward. I'll get back up on its feet, just give it some time. :3
natsu-hime
Feb 22 2008, 03:23 AM
heck, i don't think they'll make one but i am sure everyone will, love if BONES ever managed to make some romance-special or some kinda fanservice OVAs (like roy and riza's wedding and births of their children, ed meeting a new love in our earth, al looking for a boyfriend) which i am sure even if the sky falls down THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN (but atleast make the roiai happen, pleeeeeeeeease?!)
ps: sorry for the fangirl ranting too *bows*
APalchemist5
Feb 24 2008, 05:34 PM
~ What Are The Chances Of Another Anime?, Do you think they'll make another anime series after the manga end? ~
Hi,
I just read through this discussion and it was great becuase I have been thinking about the prospect of another Fullmetal anime.
I personally hope there is.
I also found this interview, I dont know if you have seen it, and if you have, sorry ahead of time. There is one question that seems to pertain to this discussion.
With the movie completed, are you officially finished with Fullmetal Alchemist for now? Would you ever want the series to continue with another director?
After doing the TV series, the movie, and the OVAs, my work with Fullmetal Alchemist is done. However, the rights are still owned by the manga's original creator, Hiromu Arakawa. Therefore, there's the possibility that it might still continue if there's a strong enough desire among the fans. And there's also the possibility that a new Fullmetal project would have a director who isn't me, but at the same time, if the fans see me as the Fullmetal director, I might come back.
I got this from www.mobuta.com
does that seem to provide a little hope for a remake?
AA battery
Feb 25 2008, 04:17 AM
QUOTE(Petite-Parfait @ Feb 21 2008, 05:42 PM)

QUOTE(AA battery @ Feb 21 2008, 05:24 PM)

however, manga chapter 75-79 have been rather crappy...
Well, we're all human, even our praised cow goddess.
There's bound to be some burnout or slow period in any story to get those extra details of what's going on eslewhere in the plot to move the story foward. I'll get back up on its feet, just give it some time. :3
Don't know if you actually read those chapters, but how I would describe those chapters is the exact opposite of how you described. Slow? Nope. Detailed? Nope. I think most of us agreed that those chapters have been rushing too much and lacked details. I enjoyed the slow and detailed pacing FMA used to have and that's exactly what chapter 75-79 lack. (So glad chapter 80 is back to old pacing, but how long will it last? We really don't know.) As a consumer who also whips out her hard-earned money for fma, I feel that I do have the right to rant about the quality drop. I am not buying the "we are all human" theory either, because if you read Juushin Enbu, you would realize that its quality is better than FMA's. I feel that Arakawa Hiromu has been putting more effort in Juushin Enbu than FMA during that period and it makes me sad. There was even a time when I wish that she would just stop drawing FMA, go finish off Juushin Enbu if she really loves it so much, and then resume and give FMA the quality it deserves. I should stop ranting about it though as I can go on and on forever... I just don't get why she decided to start another series just when FMA is starting to reach its grand finale =_=; I liked all of her one-shots before but definitely not Juushin Enbu... It's quite stereotype, like bleach naruto inuyasha... If she started this new series after she finished FMA, I might've been more interested in it, but noo, she just had to start it before she finished FMA *sigh*
@APalchemist5: I see... Well, won't be having my hopes up high, but if it ever comes out I'll definitely watch it... (and I want a different scriptwriter, just to see how he/she will portray fma differently.)
Elphaba
Feb 25 2008, 01:58 PM
I think it's extremely unlikely that they'll make another series. I could imagine that some people (probably more on the American side than Japanese) might be confused since the ending of the anime went off in such a radical direction. On top of it all, Alphonse's VA (at least in the US) has matured and his voice has dropped considerably.
However, I would be eternally pleased if they animated the rest of the manga. Within minutes of meeting Olivier Armstrong I was lamenting the fact that she wasn't in the anime. And of course there's Ling Yao and Lan Fan and Mei Chan and something better for Rose to do than be a mute religious symbol. Plus, it'd be nice to see SOME romantic resolution *hinthintEdWinRoyRiza* which I really hope Arakawa will get to by the end of the manga.
The manga has such a wonderful storyline, and I would love love to see it honored by being incorporated into the anime.
AA battery
Feb 25 2008, 03:18 PM
Kugimiya Rie is still awesome as usual... as for the one that did the English dub... I suppose they can grab a new kid to do the role. XP
Petite-Parfait
Feb 25 2008, 05:01 PM
QUOTE(AA battery @ Feb 25 2008, 05:17 AM)

QUOTE(Petite-Parfait @ Feb 21 2008, 05:42 PM)

QUOTE(AA battery @ Feb 21 2008, 05:24 PM)

however, manga chapter 75-79 have been rather crappy...
Well, we're all human, even our praised cow goddess.
There's bound to be some burnout or slow period in any story to get those extra details of what's going on eslewhere in the plot to move the story foward. I'll get back up on its feet, just give it some time. :3
Don't know if you actually read those chapters.
...
I am not buying the "we are all human" theory either, because if you read Juushin Enbu, you would realize that its quality is better than FMA's. I feel that Arakawa Hiromu has been putting more effort in Juushin Enbu than FMA during that period and it makes me sad. There was even a time when I wish that she would just stop drawing FMA, go finish off Juushin Enbu if she really loves it so much, and then resume and give FMA the quality it deserves.
I have read those chapters, thanks. I wouldn't have bothered to comment if I hadn't.
I don't expect everyone to give Arakawa the extended patience that I do (or maybe too much patience, but who knows? The quality drop hasn't been done for too long), but I do agree that working on Juushin Enbu during FMA isn't the greatest idea. I've read it, but I'd have to disagree about it getting too much special favor. It's a new series and it needs to have good first chapters or any hopes of it to continue will be shot. I find it enjoyable, but I don't think I'll be able to like it as much as FMA. Us "all being human" isn't a theory, either--it's a fact as clear as the ocean is blue (or if you live near where I do, brown).
But Arakawa's kept FMA running since 2001, so I still want to trust her to set things right again. We'll just have to hold tight and see what happens. If you want to rant, this thread is not the place to do it. Thank you.
Havanese
Feb 26 2008, 02:53 PM
Do I think another anime will be made? Maybe, but not for a while. The FMA hype isn't over yet; I'd give it a couple more years after the manga ends for it to really wind down, but by then there will be another anime as popular as FMA is -- or was -- and FMA will probably be forgotten. It's sad, but true; just look at how the Harry Potter fandom has died down now that the series has ended. I think there's a slight chance a new anime will be made in 8 years or so, but I'm not counting on it.
Would I like another anime to be made? Yes and no. I would love to see an adaptation that follows the manga storyline, but with slight changes that improve it (for example, adding more emotional depth to the Nina/Tucker arc, fleshing out certain scenes more, and cutting scenes that drag out and are pointless). I would love for it to have a high production cost so it can have stellar animation, great music, great voice acting, etc... but the anime would probably have to be about 70-ish episodes, and for it to maintain a high quality throughout the entire anime would be near-impossible. I think the anime would just end up disappointing most of us.
Also, Arakawa's style doesn't adapt very well to animation. I don't know how many people have seen the Juushin Enbu anime, but the art looks really weird and not very appealing... though that's only my opinion, of course.

The only times I ever really liked Juushin Enbu/FMA's animation is the OP/EDs, some of the fight scenes, and most of the movie (though the use of CG in the movie was "ew", but the animation in general was great).
And let's not forget all the rabid fangirls/boys a new anime would bring...
Petite-Parfait
Feb 26 2008, 06:47 PM
There's a Juushin Enbu anime? O_O *watches*
Woah, you're right, it is odd. What's even weirder is that an anime has been made so quickly! But overall, I'm just wondering what was going on through whoever made the anime's head when they did. Already in the first episode it strays from the manga and the animation/coloring is gross. But I think the most disturbing thing is the OP theme was all in English. Taitou sounds like he needs some laxatives and Laila sounds so generically girly, having the same voice as every other cute female character. The CG makes me wanna gag. Sadness.
If a remake of FMA where to be like that, then I'm more than happy to be content with the anime that BONES made. o_olll It sure wasn't the greatest (though the movie's animation did it a lot of justice), it would sure be better than what's being made in Japan right now.
Havanese
Feb 26 2008, 11:31 PM
QUOTE(Petite-Parfait @ Feb 26 2008, 07:47 PM)

There's a Juushin Enbu anime? O_O *watches*
Woah, you're right, it is odd. What's even weirder is that an anime has been made so quickly! But overall, I'm just wondering what was going on through whoever made the anime's head when they did. Already in the first episode it strays from the manga and the animation/coloring is gross. But I think the most disturbing thing is the OP theme was all in English. Taitou sounds like he needs some laxatives and Laila sounds so generically girly, having the same voice as every other cute female character. The CG makes me wanna gag. Sadness.
If a remake of FMA where to be like that, then I'm more than happy to be content with the anime that BONES made. o_olll It sure wasn't the greatest (though the movie's animation did it a lot of justice), it would sure be better than what's being made in Japan right now.
Actually, it wasn't made quickly.

Arakawa planned the creation of Juushin Enbu seven years ago, collaborating with Studio Flag and GENCO under one alias; Huang Jin Zhou. They've had it planned for a long time, though I have no clue why it took seven years before its release.
Unfortunately, all the time and effort they must've spent on it are wasted, IMO. I've read the first two chapters of the manga and I liked it, but the anime... well, sucks. It's extremely generic, and generic can be good if it's executed well, but that's not the case. It's a shame, really; I've watched all the episodes released with subtitles and I've grown somewhat attached to the characters, but most episodes leave me with a sense of disappointment and a "how could Arakawa-sensei have been a part of this?"
There is a lot of quality stuff being made in Japan at the moment, but Juushin Enbu is not one of them. If another FMA anime was made again, I would like to see Kyoto Animation (they did Kanon 2006, CLANNAD, TMoHS) animate it, simply because their animation quality is consistent and beautiful. They'd have to drastically change their style so it looks like Arakawa's, though. (Imagine if Izumi looked like Akiko-san from Kanon, or Ed looked like Kyon... that would just be WEIRD).
AA battery
Feb 27 2008, 02:07 AM
QUOTE(Petite-Parfait @ Feb 25 2008, 04:01 PM)

I have read those chapters, thanks. I wouldn't have bothered to comment if I hadn't.
I don't expect everyone to give Arakawa the extended patience that I do (or maybe too much patience, but who knows? The quality drop hasn't been done for too long), but I do agree that working on Juushin Enbu during FMA isn't the greatest idea. I've read it, but I'd have to disagree about it getting too much special favor. It's a new series and it needs to have good first chapters or any hopes of it to continue will be shot. I find it enjoyable, but I don't think I'll be able to like it as much as FMA. Us "all being human" isn't a theory, either--it's a fact as clear as the ocean is blue (or if you live near where I do, brown).
But Arakawa's kept FMA running since 2001, so I still want to trust her to set things right again. We'll just have to hold tight and see what happens. If you want to rant, this thread is not the place to do it. Thank you.
Ah, I was under the impression that you haven't read the recent chapters because "slow and detailed" really isn't the right description for chapter 75-59. Sorry about that. "Slow and detailed" would be more fitting for the Ishbal arc... they are not my favourite chapters in FMA, but I really liked the storytelling of that arc. It's slow, it's detailed, and it's perfectly portrayed.
I suppose I have used the word "theory" wrong... "excuse" might have been the better word for it.
Since she already waited this many years to plan for Juushin Enbu, I really can't see why she can't wait till she finishes with FMA and then put all of her efforts into Juushin Enbu afterwards? I don't think it's a good idea for her to stress herself so much either... having two series at the same time is definitely stressful. I do understand that new series need extra effort to create its fanbase, but I don't like how one of the costs is FMA manga's quality.
I don't see why I can't rant in this thread... if I don't love FMA, I wouldn't even bother coming here at all. My rant states why I feel iffy about seeing another FMA anime, so I wasn't exactly off-topic. As a reader and a fan I believe I reserve the right to criticize it. I have been a fan of FMA ever since anime started airing, and it is still my favourite series after all these years, so I think it's reasonable that I felt disappointment toward the recent chapters, and worry about how the new anime will be like if there's ever one to be put into production. After all, a forum is for free discussion and commenting. It's not like I am bashing anyone personally and unreasonably. Anyways, I think I have commented all I have in mind already in my previous post, so I'll stop here.
Petite-Parfait
Feb 27 2008, 06:03 PM
QUOTE(Havanese @ Feb 27 2008, 12:31 AM)

QUOTE(Petite-Parfait @ Feb 26 2008, 07:47 PM)

There's a Juushin Enbu anime? O_O *watches*
Woah, you're right, it is odd. What's even weirder is that an anime has been made so quickly! But overall, I'm just wondering what was going on through whoever made the anime's head when they did. Already in the first episode it strays from the manga and the animation/coloring is gross. But I think the most disturbing thing is the OP theme was all in English. Taitou sounds like he needs some laxatives and Laila sounds so generically girly, having the same voice as every other cute female character. The CG makes me wanna gag. Sadness.
If a remake of FMA where to be like that, then I'm more than happy to be content with the anime that BONES made. o_olll It sure wasn't the greatest (though the movie's animation did it a lot of justice), it would sure be better than what's being made in Japan right now.
Actually, it wasn't made quickly.

Arakawa planned the creation of Juushin Enbu seven years ago, collaborating with Studio Flag and GENCO under one alias; Huang Jin Zhou. They've had it planned for a long time, though I have no clue why it took seven years before its release.
Unfortunately, all the time and effort they must've spent on it are wasted, IMO. I've read the first two chapters of the manga and I liked it, but the anime... well, sucks. It's extremely generic, and generic can be good if it's executed well, but that's not the case. It's a shame, really; I've watched all the episodes released with subtitles and I've grown somewhat attached to the characters, but most episodes leave me with a sense of disappointment and a "how could Arakawa-sensei have been a part of this?"
There is a lot of quality stuff being made in Japan at the moment, but Juushin Enbu is not one of them. If another FMA anime was made again, I would like to see Kyoto Animation (they did Kanon 2006, CLANNAD, TMoHS) animate it, simply because their animation quality is consistent and beautiful. They'd have to drastically change their style so it looks like Arakawa's, though. (Imagine if Izumi looked like Akiko-san from Kanon, or Ed looked like Kyon... that would just be WEIRD).
Ah, I see. I didn't know that the anime was planned, but I did know the plans for the manga. Thanks.

I pondered about Kyoto Animation animate an FMA anime, but you're right, they would have to change their style to mimic Arakawa's. Everything would look odd if they kept styles like Kanon/Suzumiya!
Havanese
Feb 28 2008, 11:27 AM
AA Battery: I think you have every right to criticize the manga. It doesn't make you any less of an FMA fan if you acknowledge that has its faults. However, I do think that
Petite-Parfait is right and that we should give Arakawa-sensei more patience -- I think she will bounce back. I really enjoyed chapter 80, and I think the next chapters will have the level of quality that we're used to.

At least, I hope so... it would make me so sad if FMA had a bad ending...
Petite-Parfait: Can you imagine what FMA would be like if its character designs were like Lucky Star's?

As much as I love Lucky Star/FMA crossovers, that would be an absolute DISASTER.
Of course, Kyoto Animation wouldn't do that. They'd be out of their minds... wait, they already
did.
Petite-Parfait
Feb 28 2008, 04:16 PM
@ Havanese: Haha, I was going to mention that! xD
That would be fantastic--another chibi OVA..
sushyisama
Feb 28 2008, 10:15 PM
I answered Maybe to both because I'm indecisive.
But I sort of like the fact that the manga and anime go in divergent plots. Makes things sort of interesting, you know?
And Arakawa's art style has developed quite a bit since the inception of the anime... If they made a new anime series, they'd have to change the artwork style as well. Seems like a bit of a chore. >>
CowAlchemist
Mar 1 2008, 01:31 PM
I voted Maybe for the first one and Yes for the second.
In my opinion, the anime (at least the movie) did sort of support RoyEd. ^^;
I would
love for EdWin and Royai to actually happen. I thought that the anime was wonderful when it came to action, but cruddy when it came to romance (obviously FMA isn't a romance anime/manga, but it's nice to throw some in!).
Edward ends up in one world and Winry is in another?
Probably the most evil way of ruining it in the eyes of an EdWin fan (come on, they're in separate WORLDS. XD That's about as far apart as it gets aside from being dead.)
I like the manga's plot a lot more than the anime's and would love to see it animated.
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Fullmetal Alchemist : The One that Actually Follows The Manga
HAHAHA. XD I love that.
Rikka
Mar 22 2008, 05:01 PM
I was talking to many and they all say Fullmetal should be "re-done" as in "Make a second fullmetal alchemist as a mirror to the origonal manga plot." So follow the plot of the origonal manga. I think thats an awesome idea, and it's nice to dream.... Who else thinks so, or would like to see that happen? (i mean, funimation is going to run out of animes to work on SOMEDAY, right) ^-^
personally, i like the manga better. it's longer, it has more information on what it's about, the characters are alot more open, like, there not afraid to say things (get me?) and it would be cool if they would animate THAT.
Amethyst Sunset
Mar 22 2008, 05:58 PM
Hmmm...that would be cool, seeing many manga-only characters animated and talking and such (Now I have this mental image of Miyano Mamoru doing Ling Yao XD). And yes, the manga plot is very interesting.
However, it's not yet finished. If the second anime would follow every last chapter of the manga, it would end up becoming really, really long, maybe more than twice as long as the original anime. Maybe even if they snip a little bit off the top, it'll still be quite lengthy. And that means a lot of work on a series they were supposedly done with a long time ago, that they ended with CoS.
Or, they could always release an OVA, like Tsubasa Tokyo Revelations.
Though these are nice thoughts, I highly doubt they'll be willing to work on FMA again. Like I said, they already decided that it's over with Conqueror of Shamballa.
EDIT: Wait, was this thread supposed to be closed? If so, I leave it to you mods. Oops. XD
Popogeejo
Mar 22 2008, 06:03 PM
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EDIT: Wait, was this thread supposed to be closed? If so, I leave it to you mods. Oops. XD
She's just made a repeat thread. Makes sense to me, I mean if the mods lock it that must mean they simply want you to remake it somewhere else (they'll never know right?)
Dear Rikka: Go back to Gaia.
Rikka
Mar 22 2008, 06:04 PM
yea, but didnt they do a second gen. to ghost in the shell? or was it just supposed to be like that?
either way, the longer, the better, i say! that way, it lasts longer, and you get to enjoy it longer.
Becca-chan
Mar 23 2008, 05:31 AM
Unfortunately Rikka, anime's that go on for too long ( in other words, the ones that end up with 100+ or 200+ episodes) pretty much end up losing any appeal that they may of once had.
It's all well and good when the anime in-question is a situation comedy anime that has episodes that don't really tie in with one another at all.
Since you can tune in to that, watch perhaps three of four episodes...and not really miss anything of great importance.
But Fullmetal Alchemist is the kind of anime that people need to pay attention to...and of course since we get some people who are fans of the manga say how much more 'smarter' and 'complex' the storyline and characters are in the manga version in comparison to the anime's version.
( Which is something I really don't agree with, but then again...I like the anime version more than the manga's version, so yeah...)
So if a manga version of the anime was made, wouldn't people need to watch *every* single episode that came out; even though they had already read about it and know exactly what happens?
Surely there would be times when the plot would start to feel as if it was dragging on and on ( like an energizer bunny ^^; ) and the only big deal would be made when something exciting finally happened.
But how can something be exciting when people ( except for perhaps, newbies to the fandom) would already know what would happen?
Plus, there would be animating every single panel in a chapter of every volume that came out, animating things takes time...and to get it near on 'perfect' to suit the demands of the fans would take even longer.
Depending on how fast these people could work, we'd be looking at perhaps, one-and-a-half ( this one is hardly likely for the manga version) , two, three or even four years of production? and they would need the rights to do that.
Then would come the scripting and voice-work, to which the voice-actors and voice-actresses would have to learn what their lines were and rehearse until they got it right, complete with the mood and emotion.
And what's more, it would all have to be done within the set deadline...if they couldn't fit any particular stuff in within that time period, that would be cut out completely.
And naturally, us fans overseas would have to wait until american dubbing companies claimed rights to the anime in-question.
( Unless of course people got to watch the RAW's and fan-subs somewhere on the internet ^^; )
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Then again...just how many people would kick up a big fuss if the animators *did* decide to make an FMA anime based on the manga's story..but if they did threw in a new twist.
Then despite the fact the anime would be based on the manga albeit with some new ideas in it, we'd then have some people throwings fits of anger and yelling; " But that wasn't in the manga!" :: cue rants and fumes:: " make another one that REALLY follows the manga, NO EXCEPTIONS! RAAAWR!"
O_o;;
Well okay, not every fan of the manga would do that last part...but you just know that there would be some. ^^;
StormGoddess
Mar 23 2008, 11:03 AM
*prays for a manga-based anime*
I'm really hoping for it. I wanna see Ling and Ran Fan in the anime. And it'll be more interesting since Arakawa made the whole plot.
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