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Animeoldtimer
First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 78 here. smile.gif

For info on the "Reading Reference", go to page 15.


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Here's a link to the cover page for Chapter 78 from the hagaren_manga, livejournal site:

http://community.livejournal.com/hagaren_m...599.html#cutid1


ETA: (by Tombow)
Chapter 78 Raw!! and Anotther Mirror
(Both courtesy of Gukumatz. Thank you!!!)


For translation of chapter 78, scroll down toTombow's post.


<Last edited by Michiyo- on Nov. 27, 2011>
Havanese
Thanks for posting the link to the preview!

I'm so excited! CSakuraS said in the comments that this chapter is called "The Seven Sins", so I wonder what that could mean...
spoonyalchemist
<3 <3 <3 Those are both amazing. Aw man, now I'm all excited. >_< I hate waiting.

Thanks for the link, Animeoldtimer. biggrin.gif
Edamame
Oooh, the chapter title frightens me so... Thank you for the link AnimeOldTimer, Hopefully one of the Japanese blogs will post the spoiler summary for the chapter soon. (I rather like Ed's shirt on the cover.)
Alchemical
Thanks for posting!

I want to read it nooooow. D:
Celeste Nayamashii
QUOTE(Edamame @ Dec 10 2007, 09:26 PM) *
Oooh, the chapter title frightens me so... Thank you for the link AnimeOldTimer, Hopefully one of the Japanese blogs will post the spoiler summary for the chapter soon. (I rather like Ed's shirt on the cover.)


You and me both sister...I'm serious, I don't know if I like the sound of that title or not...Please let our Edo be okay! >.< I second that and hope we get to see the spoiler summary soon! Wow, Ed looks really hot on that cover. He's growing up and maturing <3 Egads I hope we get this chapter soon!!
Havanese
QUOTE(Celeste Nayamashii @ Dec 11 2007, 12:04 AM) *
QUOTE(Edamame @ Dec 10 2007, 09:26 PM) *
Oooh, the chapter title frightens me so... Thank you for the link AnimeOldTimer, Hopefully one of the Japanese blogs will post the spoiler summary for the chapter soon. (I rather like Ed's shirt on the cover.)


You and me both sister...I'm serious, I don't know if I like the sound of that title or not...Please let our Edo be okay! >.< I second that and hope we get to see the spoiler summary soon! Wow, Ed looks really hot on that cover. He's growing up and maturing <3 Egads I hope we get this chapter soon!!

Oh, me too!

I think we're really nearing the last chapter. ;_; On the picture of the GanGan cover, Ed and Al are both restored and eating pie (and lookin' good, might I add).

... Could this mean...? Well, Arakawa's drawn human!Al before, but has never tossed out such huge indications that he was restored...
Sannom
QUOTE
On the picture of the GanGan cover, Ed and Al are both restored and eating pie (and lookin' good, might I add).


Must have been prepared by Winry then.

I realy like the "inside cover", Scar's crew all over it wink.gif Yoki has trouble beeing seen laugh.gif
Chiyo
In the overused words of Jack Sparrow

'That's interesting', oh and yay for Christmas themed image
Anomia Grey
nyaaaargh go away incredibly hot picture of Ed, I want to stay sane....

I nearly missed the small pic of Ed and Al eating pie in their restored forms... now someone tell me what's that supposed to mean. *cinematic voice* Is this a sign that the end of our heroes' heart-chilling tale is near?

Arakawa: Nah, it's just that in this chapter I'm going to (once again) torture the the living daylights out of Ed. But it's Christmas, so you get a thumb of Ed and Al eating pie as a compensation happy.gif

Well, maybe not. Man, I wish I could hibernate until the chap comes out.
AA battery
I hope it'll have more than 32 pages...
I am not SHORT!
ohh!~~ I can waitt~
Anyarel
Kyaaaa! Ed is so hawt! tongue.gif

I hope it'll be a 40 or even 50 page chapter! ^___^
Celeste Nayamashii
QUOTE(AA battery @ Dec 11 2007, 06:04 AM) *
I hope it'll have more than 32 pages...


Me too...the last couple of chapters have been disappointingly short...
Tombow
@Animeoldtimer - Thanks for the preview pics!! Nice! biggrin.gif

Chapter 78: "Seven Sins"

Page 1:
Caption on the side: Kimbley has disappeared in the explosion. And, Ed also...!!
Briggs Fort. It has been 10 days since the collapse of the mining shaft.
Buccaneer: "I hear Kimbley is missing. Is that true?"
Miles: "Yeah."
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Miles: "There was an explosion that collapsed the whole mine shaft." "Kimbley, and several others are missing."
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Miles: "We searched for Ten days, but we couldn't find any of the bodies."
Buccaneer: "Hmm..." "When you say 'several others,' are they Briggs' soldiers?"
SFX clack clack clack
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Miles: "They are Kimbley's two subordinates," "and Fullmetal Alchemist."



Page 2-3:
Chapter Title: Chapter 78: "Seven Sins"
Captions: (Upper Left, smaller one) We will go much further!!
(above Ed) We are the strongest!!
(on Al) We are invincible!!



Page 4:
Breda in the West, at the West City Station is getting in touch with Falman in the North on the phone.
Breda: "I see......." "I hope Fullmetal chief is safe......"
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Falman: "How is it there in the West?"
Breda: "No other way to describe it; it's terrible along the Pendleton border."
SFX chat chat
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Breda: "The way they battle, I can't help it but think they are intentionally choosing the way to cause heavy casualties."
Breda: "Falman," "just as you told me, it seems the Army is taking the lead in causing many bloody incidents, and creating the Transmutation Circle."
SFX chat chat chat
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Falman: "Has Master Sergeant Fuery in the South contacted you?"
Breda: "I talked with him on the phone a little while ago."



Page 5:
Breda: "He is in a battle against the Aerugo Army in the Southern part of Fotossett."
SFX Boom
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Breda: "Because we, the former Mustang gang are black sheep," "he might have been thrown into a horrendous battle site."
In the South, Fuery and Thomas are in the midst of heavy battle.
SFX (small one, on the right side of Thomas) Sshwp
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Fuery: SFX "Whoa"
SFX BOOM
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SFX (the one in a bubble)"putt putt"
SFX Plonk Plonk
Fuery: <Shout>"Thomas! Run, run!!" <Shout> "Don't stop!"
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Fuery: "Thoma..."



Page 6:
Fuery: "Shi....." "Damn!!"
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Fuery: <Shout> "I will survive!!" <Shout> "I am definitely going to surviiiiiiive!!"
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Falman: "That area is a part of the Transmutation Circle also, so the situation must be quite horrible." "I hope he is all right."
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Breda: "Are you contacting the Colonel?"
Falman: "Yes." "Through the messenger who is closely connected to the Armstrong Family, every detail is passed on..... <in small letters> Old lady at the flower shop"
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Breda: "I see." "It sounds like the North is in a bad situation also. Be careful."



Page 7:
Falman: "Ah, yes, it is bad......" "It is bad indeed."
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Falman: "A Homunculus is digging holes underneath our feet, yet we can't even stop it..." "... It's quite frustrating."
:SFX dig dig dig
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SFX DIG dig dig dig
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SFX CRUMBLE
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Sloth: "Huh"
SFX crumble crumble



Page 8:
SFX Gaping...
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Sloth: "It is," "connected." "Can I," "quit," "working, Pride?"
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Elsewhere, in Reole...
SFX gong gong gwong gwong



Page 9:
SFX Gong Gwong Gong
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Rose: "Everyone, mealtime~!"
Man: "Oh!"
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Rose: "Get in a line, please!"
Food stand master: "Wait for your turn~."
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Man: "I'd like to have some Meat pie next time, Rose."
Man: <in small letters> "Looks like we can reopen it starting next week."
Another man: <in small letters> "I have been waiting for this."
(Can't read the raw in some part so the above two are partially my guess)
SFX gong gwong gwong
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Rose: "We'll make it if we can get the ingredients."
Man: "That's great!"
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Old lady: "I'm not part of the work crew. Could you feed these children also?"
Rose: "Yes, yes." "Grandma, would you please join the meal also."



Page 10
SFX babble babble
Man: "Rose-chan, make it a heaping serving for me, please!"
Rose: "No~." "Everyone will be served equally."
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Voice: "Ah....." "Excuse me..."
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Man (Hohenheim): "May I..." "Have some, too..............?"
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Hohenheim: "Oh~ Saved!" "Thank you!"



Page 11
Food stand master: "Where are you from?"
Hohenheim: "From no particular place." "I have been wondering around."
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Food stand master: "You came all the way to this town, for what...?"
Rose: "You heard about it, right?" "After the last riot we have nothing here in Reole." ."
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Hohenheim: "It's not true that you have nothing here." "You got nice warm meals."
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Hohenheim: "Thank you, miss." "It was delicious."
Rose: "That makes me happy."
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Rose: "Because, this is just about all I can do......"
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Hohenheim: ""Please, don't be so modest and say 'only thisí." "I think warm meals and your smile are giving everyone strength."
Man A: <in small letters> "See you later, Rose!"
Man B: <in small letters> "Off to work some more."



Page 12
Hohenheim: "While I have your kindness, let me ask for one more bit of help." "I'm looking for a church. Where can I find it?"
Rose: "A church?"
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Hohenheim: "Yes." "The headquarters for the Leto religion that was the cause of the riot."
Rose: "Ah, that one is..."
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Rose: "Over there."
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Hohenheim: ".............What the heck is that?"
Rose: "That is a stone statue transmuted by Mr. Alchemist who exposed the fraud of Leto's religion."



Page 13
Food stand master: ''We are planning to make it a point of interest for our town, and with it, planning to rebuild the town again."
Hohenheim: "Hmmm." "I don't know who created it, but his sense of art leaves a lot to be desired."
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SFX Creak
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Food stand master: "Of all the things that were inside the church, anything that could be useful was taken." "Even if you go in there, there won't be anything useful by now."
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Hohenheim: "Is there a passageway that leads to the underground?"
Rose: "Yes." "That is this way."
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Rose: "About the underground passageway..." "There is one, but..."



Page 14
Hohenheim: "What's this...?"
Rose: "Poison pond."
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Rose: "Because of this, nobody can go any farther."
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Hohenheim: "I see." "It is made so that ordinary people can not go farther."
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Hohenheim: "Well."
Rose: "?!"
SFX Step
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Rose: <Shout>"Wait..."
Food stand master: <Shout> "Fool!!" <Shout> "You'll die if you go in!!"



Page 15
SFX CRACK
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SFX Crack Crack Crack
SFX Tromp Tromp Tromp
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SFX crack crack
SFX tromp tromp
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Food stand master: "A miracle deed......"
Rose: "No, it's Alchemy....... right?"
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Hohenheim: "I will go farther ahead for a short while. Could you wait for me?"



Page 16
Hohenheim: "You must not follow me~~"
SFX Clack Klak Clack
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SFX clack
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SFX clack klack clack
SFX Gowah
SFX "Split"
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SFX Boom
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SFX Rubble Rubble Rubble
Hohenheim: "Oh~~~~."
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Hohenheim: "It is large." "And, he sure made it elaborate."
SFX Clack Klak Clack



Page 17
SFX Rustle
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SFX Rustle Rustle Rustle
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Hohenheim: ".... Already running into it."
SFX Rustle
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SFX Zwahhh



Page 18
Hohenheim: "Whoa!!" "Wha!!"
SFX RUSTLE
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Hohenheim: "----- there!!"
SFX Clap
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SFX Thump Thump Thump
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SFX SLASH
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Hohenheim: "Ah~~~" "Didn't even slow it down."



Page 19
Hohenheim: "Let's try sealing it."
SFX Crack
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SFX Gwaaaah
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SFX ZBoom
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SFX Rustle Rustle
Hohenheim: "Ah......"



Page 20
Hohenheim: "This is a problem."
SFX Rustle Rustle
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SFX Stumble
Hohenheim: "Ah?"
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SFX Fall
Hohenheim: "Ouch"
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SFX ZWAHHH



Page 21
SFX CRUSH
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SFX CRUSH
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SFX crawl crawl crawl
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SFX CRAWL
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Hohenheim: "What's wrong?" "Aren't you going to attack me?"



Page 22
Hohenheim: "Humm?"
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Shadow Eye: "That appearance......" "Are you Von Hohenheim?"
SFX Stare
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Hohenheim: "It seems your receptacle ends here."
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Hohenheim: "You will die if you step out of it... is that it?"
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Hohenheim: "Just like the flask in the old days," "You will die if you step out of certain lines."
SFX crawl crawl crawl
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Hohenheim: "I'm guessing you can move only inside this tunnel, and the center part of the Central city." "Did I assume correctly?"



Page 23
Pride: ".................."
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Hohenheim: "Did I hit the nail on the head?" "Say something, you, recluse."
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SFX Slither
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Hohenheim: "Are you angry?"
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Pride: "There is no Wrath," "inside of me." "Not only Wrath,"
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Pride: "Lust," "Sloth," "Greed," "Gluttony," "Envy..." "I left behind such unnecessary emotions inside my father." "My name is 'Pride'."



Page 24
Hohenheim: "I see." "You are 'Pride,' huh?"
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Hohenheim: "They say a man carries Seven Sins." "'Lust,' 'Greed,' 'Sloth,' 'Gluttony,' 'Envy,' 'Wrath,'" "and 'Pride.'"
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Hohenheim: "What that bloke has separated out first from himself was you..." "and, it was 'Pride,' I see."
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Hohenheim: "And, he even made it look like the way he looked while he was in a flask." "----Was that the case of 'a form matching its name'?"
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Hohenheim: "That form of yours, that is the true form of that one, who is conceited and proud of himself----" "And that is the true nature of your Father, isn't it?"



Page 25
Pride: "I must ask you to accompany me to Father."
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Hohenheim: "Don't be so hasty." "I will show up even if I'm uninvited."
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Hohenheim: "Relay the message to that one," "that, the slave No. 23 will come to see him later."
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Hohenheim: "Till then, keep his arrogant self in his chair, and wait for my arrival." "That'll be all."



Page 26
SFX Clack Klak Clack Clack
Through Pride Father receives Hohenheim's words.
Father: "Oh, yes."
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Father: "I'll be waiting for you," "Von Hohenheim."



Page 27
Hohenheim is back at the entrance where Rose and the Food stand master await.
Rose: "!"
Food stand master: "He is back!"
SFX Clack Klak Clack
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Food stand master: "Was there anything?"
Hohenheim: "Yeah." "It is better for ordinary citizens to stay out."
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SFX Buzzzz
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Hoho destroys the pass way over the Poison pond he had just constructed while ago.
SFX Rubble Rubble
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Hohenheim: "It is dangerous out there. Please pass the word that nobody should enter there."
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Rose: "What were you doing back there?"
Hohenheim: " Ah,"
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Hohenheim: "DECLARING WAR."



Page 28
Meanwhile... back at the Briggs Fort...
SFX Wooooosh
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Look out soldier A: "Change of shifts."
Look out soldier B: "I have been waiting for this!" "Oh, that was a tough shift, with the blizzard."
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Look out soldier B: "Well now, time to have that terrible cup of coffee!"
Look out soldier A: "Good Work..." "Hm?"
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SFX Thump Thump
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Look out soldier B: "Hey..."
Look out soldier A: "......... That can't be true..."



Page 29
SFX Rumble
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Look out soldier B: "D...."
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Soldier: <Shout> "Drachma in the North has proclaimed war upon us!"
SFX Patter Patter



Page 30
SFX Thump Thump
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Miles: "They sure did..."
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Miles: "Looks like they are intending to create a bloody catastrophe, not by Briggs' soldiers, but caused by the Drachma Army?"
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Buccaneer: "But, why all of a sudden?" "The Drachma Army should know, better than anyone else, that the Briggs Fort is impregnable......"
Miles: "......................."



Page 31
Drachma Army Commander: "It is great for us that 'Briggs' Northern Wall' is absent."
(Note: 'Briggs' Northern Wall' = Major General Armstrong.. just a reminder. ^^)
SFX Rumble Rumble
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Drachma Army Commander: "Isn't it, Mr. Kimbley?"



Page 32
Kimbley: "In addition, we have quite a few soldiers inside the fort who are under us." "Once the battle begins they will also make a move and bring the fort to a state of confusion from within."
Drachma Army Commander: "Ha ha..."
SFX rumble rumble
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Drachma Army Commander: "Amestris is being impoverished with war after war in the South, and in the West." "Today we will capture the Briggs Fort that has long been impenetrable by Drachma."
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Kimbley: "Itís time to proclaim the war."
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Kimbley: "Let's send out the showy display of sparks and fireworks."
SFX clank clank clank



Page 33
Elsewhere in the North, in the Ishvalan camp.
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Mei: "As. I . Told. You!!"
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Mei: <Shout> "In Rentanjitsu you have to read the flow of the Dragon's Web!!"
Al: <Shout> "And, as I said, I don't understand that!!"
SFX Thwack Thwack Thwack Thwack
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Mei: <Shout> "Sharpen your senses, and..." <Shout> "One, two, three, go!"
Al: <Shout> "I can't do it!!"
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Mei: <Shout> "Yes you can!! Like this, like whoaaah, like vwaaaah!!"
Al: <Shout> "Teach me more logically!!"
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Scar: "Sorry for your trouble sheltering us."
Camp elder: "Don't mention it." "You and I are the same Ishvalans, aren't we?"



Page 34
Camp elder: "Besides, it has been a great help for us that we got a free doctor here."
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Camp elder: "And, the kids are getting someone to play with."
Yoki: <Shout> "Stop..... Stop playing with my hair~~~!!"
SFX Kid: pull, pull Yoki: Ghaaaaahh
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Yoki: <Shout> "Damn! Where is Zampano?!" <Shout> "He should be playing with the kids!"
SFX Yank
Chimera soldier : "He went to get some food supplies."
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Chimera soldier: "He should be back in a while with some tasty stuff. Just wait."
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Zampano: "That's right." "My name is Zampano." "I work under Kimbley."
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Zampano: "Scar, and...." "A man who seems to be Dr. Marcoh are hiding in the Ishvalan slum in the Asbeck in the North."



Page 35
Envy: "Ok, Zampano," "we guarantee your safety."
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Envy: "It's great that you informed us about them!" "Haha!! This is getting fun!"
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Caption: Information on this side is going straight to the enemy side?!
In the next chapter, Homunculi draw near!!!


(End of Chapter 78)
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(Next chapter is coming out on Sat. Jan. 12)



That's it... I'll be back later to correct typo/syntax/other errors and further edit/refine the translation. ^^

ETA, Corrected most of errors. Thanks Edamame for proofreading!! ^^
ETA: Adding more SFX now... ^^

The translation is finalized. I'll come back later and move it to the chapter 78 translation thread. ^^


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And, the following is...
Spoiler Preview Summary of chapter 78!!!!!! ^^
(If you don't want to be spoiled please skip to the next page.)

(Translated from this Japanese site and this Japanese site and this Japanese site.)

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Chapter 78: "Seven Sins"


10 days since the collapse of the mine shaft.
Both Ed, and Kimbley are still missing.


Elsewhere in the Amestris...
Breda in the Western Army is getting in touch with Falman in the Northern Army.

Perhaps for the creation of the Grand Transmutation Circle, there are many bloody incidents in the Western region.
In the Southern Army, Fuery is on the battle front against Aruego, and fighting for his survival.

All the informations are relayed to Mustang through the flower lady.


Elsewhere in the North.... underground.
The tunnels Sloth has been digging have been all connected.


In the town of Reole... (Note: Going by the manga spelling for Reole. ^^)
Rose is working to provide meals for people who became homeless.
Among them, Hohenheim.
Hohenheim befriends with Rose. Hoho asks Rose that he wants to see the remains of the Letho church. Rose shows the underground passageway underneath the church.

The underground passageway stops at the "Poison Pond."
Because of the pond nobody can go further.

Hohenheim constructs a pass over it with Alchemy, and investigate the passageway further by himself.
Passageway becomes dead end. Hohenheim creates a further pathway with Alchemy, and finds the tunnel Sloth has been digging.

Suddenly, the Shadow Eye (that looks very much like the Homunculus in the Flask, with the eye) appears and attacks Hohenheim.
Hohenheim defends by creating blocks from rocks with Alchemy, etc., but can't stop the Eye.

Hohenheim runs, and comes back to the pathway he had just created while ago.
Hohenheim stumbles and falls. The Eye draws near...

But... for some reason, the Eye can not go further and enter the pathway where Hohenheim is.
The Eye recognizes that Hoho looks very much like Father and asks, "Are you Hohenheim?"

Hohenheim realizes that Pride can stay alive only in the tunnel (and in the Central.)
Hohenheim: "Looks like your 'range' ends there?"
"You will die if you step out of it....?"
"Just like the flask you used to be in, if you step out of the certain lines you will die, isn't that it?"
"I hit it, huh?"

Hohenheim: "Are you angry?"
Eye (Pride): "I do not carry such emotion as 'anger'. I left all other emotions behind with Father. My name is 'Pride.'."

Hohenheim: "It is said that a man has Seven Sins. So, the first Sin that one has separated out was 'Pride', I see. They say 'a name shows its identity.' That form of yours, that is the form of 'that one' who is conceit and proud of self... your Father's true nature, huh?"

Eye tells Hoho that Father requests Hohenheim to accompany the Eye to see Father.
Hohenheim answers back that "The slave #23" will show up to see him even if uninvited, and heads back the pathway.
Back at the entrance, Rose asks Hoho what he was doing. Hoenheim answers: "Declaring the war."

For the Hohenheim's challenge Father answers... "I will be waiting for you."


In the Northern front....
Drachma has declared war against Amestris. Along with them is Kimbley!
Drachma Army and Kimbley press toward Briggs Fort.
In collusion with Drachma Army, Kimbley instigates the start of the war by passing the information to the Drachma Army that the Briggs fort is absent of it's leader.

In the absence of "Briggs' Northern Wall" (note: a.k.a. Major General Armstrong) the plan is that within the Briggs fort the ones under Kimbley will work at the same time and bring the Northern Army to the state of confusion.


Elsewhere in the North.... A refuge camp for Ishvalan people.
Al is learning Rentanjitsu from Mei.
Marcoh is giving Medical cares to Ishivalans. Yoki is playing with Ishivalan children.
A chimera soldier is chopping fire wood.

But...
Another chimera soldier secretly makes a phone call to to the FŁhrer's office with the information about Scar and the gang. Envy takes the call, with Bradley on the side.
Chimera soldier: "My name is Zumpano. I work for Mr. Kimbley."



Caption: ...All their secrets are going straight to the enemy?! Homunculi head for the gang!!!

(End of chapter 78. Story continues to chapter 79 next month.)
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(I will correct typos and other errors later, but the translations are more or less accurate. ^^)
(ETA: Note: spelling for Zumpano is tentatively made up, by me.)


Wow, so much happenings in this chapter!! blink.gif
Anomia Grey
10 flippin days!?!

But the start is promising... God give me strength to refrain from reading the spoilers and wait for the actual scan to come up...

*closes her PC for safety xD*
Animeoldtimer

biggrin.gif Your welcome, to everyone who has thanked me.

Rose is back??? hmmm.
Edamame
Wow, it looks like this chapter is going to take a completely different turn from what I originally though would happen. Although I am rather sad that we will not find out the current plight of Ed, it is rather nice to be finally turning to Amestris and the military. I was more than surprised to read that Rose has returned, and that Hoenheim befriends her. I wonder what twists and turns this chapter will provide. I'm getting anxious waiting for the raw to come out. It sounds like there is going to be a showdown between Hoenheim and Father...
Havanese
Thanks for the translation, Tombow!

Whoa, this chapter sounds like it's going to be looong, which is awesome! I'm surprised to hear that Rose appears, but it sounds as though she's not going to be a key character. Hohenheim has been appearing a lot more frequently, and it seems that he's going to play a very important role in what's to come (but we all knew that, right?).

No news about Ed, eh? Well, I guess that's fair, since he appears in almost every chapter. It's time some other characters get more screen-time! But still, I'm worried about him. I hope he's alright; I imagine he's with the chimeras?

Looks as if this chapter shows us a lot. I'm glad that Envy appears, I've been wondering where he's been. It looks as though he'll have an important role, too.

Now I want the next chapter! sad.gif Another whole month of waiting, blah.

EDIT: I just realized, aren't Alphonse and Winry concerned about Ed? They haven't seen him for days, so surely they'd be worried? But then, from the spoiler summary, they don't seem to be... maybe they think he's perfectly fine? unsure.gif Strange...
Sannom
That spoiler doesn't seem right to me : we see Rose, Hohenheim just left Izumi and Sigu like that, he succed to get so easily in a city in state of war? Nah, there is something off here! I mean, I have seen a spoiler for FMA two times before, but I think we musn't forget that it could still be a "fake"!
Tombow
QUOTE(Sannom @ Dec 11 2007, 05:49 PM) *
That spoiler doesn't seem right to me : we see Rose, Hohenheim just left Izumi and Sigu like that, he succed to get so easily in a city in state of war? Nah, there is something off here! I mean, I have seen a spoiler for FMA two times before, but I think we musn't forget that it could still be a "fake"!

@Sannom - I hear your concern. ^^ If it makes you feel little at ease, let you know that the site that carries this spoiler summary has been providing with a near 100% accurate summary of FMA chapters for some time. (Only that we didn't discover about this site till fairly recently. I wish we had discovered about this Japanese site sooner!! XD)

It's in a Japanese blog site, and from what I read, the author of the summary buys the magazine each month in Japan as it comes out, read the chapter first, then write the summary of that chapter. In fact, I couldn't provide this summary yesterday because... the author made the entry in yesterday's Blog that he went to the bookstore but the GanGan mag was not there yet.

I call my translated version of it a "Preview Summary" (until the raw shows up) because the raw hasn't been shown up on the Web yet, but he wrote this as ACTUAL summary of chapter 78 as he read it. Yes, it could still all be fake, but from the past track record this author has, which is, like, near 100% accuracy on the past FMA chapter summaries, I think I can trust his summary. ^^

And, as far as your other concern, it has been 10 days since the collapse of the main mine shaft on Ed. So, I believe Hohenheim had a plenty of time to get to where he is in this chapter, by train, or by some other way. And, I think Hoenheim is very resourceful and can get around. smile.gif

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@Havanese - My guess is that Winry, Al, and others are of course very much worried about Ed (unless they already heard from him or something.. I hope he has received a necessary medical care and recovering nicely.. ) but, meantime, they should do what they have to do (yes, it's just my guess. ^^) I'm glad Al is not just all worried to bits and becoming incapable of doing anything else, but maximizing this opportunity and learning Rentanjitsu. biggrin.gif

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BTW, about one of the chimera selling off the information about Al, Scar and the company...
I'm guessing it could be a false information to divert the enemy to somewhere else..
Just my wild guess. ^^

Oh, and it will be nice to see Breda and other Mustang's gang!! ^^
Alchemical
Thanks for the translation, Tombow! <333

Wow, this chapter looks likes it's going to be nothing like I imagined. Long, too! <333 But I'm worried. It said it's been ten days. That could either mean the chimeras that are helping Ed have found a doctor (and, perhaps contacted the others) or he's gone ten days without medical attention. sad.gif Makes me anxious.

But I am so glad we get to see some of Mustang's crew again! I've missed them.
Celeste Nayamashii
Woohoo! Looks like it's going to be a long chapter! Finally! Hoho and Rose? O.o never saw that coming. This is definitely going to be good! Oh please tell me Ed got some medical treatment and is recovering...I really hope he hasn't gone 10 days without any help. I swear if he dies...bad Celeste! >.< Can't think that way.
Anyway, it's nice we're going to see Mustang's gang back in our midst biggrin.gif It's been awhile. Still, I can't help but worry about Ed and worry for another month after this >.< Thanks for the translation, Tombow! Can't wait for the actual chapter!
AA battery
Argh, even Tsubasa's new chapter is already out @_@;

*whines* I am getting really impatient >_<;;; I hope the raw will come out soon... Yes, I know i shouldn't be whiny and I know that raw providers have a life too, but I am just feeling impatient ;___; FMA is what's keeping me sane during final exam period! *has been refreshing possible raw source for 20 hours*

I didn't read the spoiler summary Tombow posted because I don't like spoiling myself like that ^^;;

*prays for raw to come out before her next exam, which is in 16 hours*
WhiteLadyoftheRing
AA battery, I feel your pain. I am currently in my college's library (in the metallurgy section - I found it to be an FMA-appropriate location) checking every half hour. We do what we have to do, right?
spoonyalchemist
It's strange not to hear from Ed for so long. It makes me worried. sad.gif Hope he's doing OK.

Then again, this could just be another example of Arakawa-sensei trying to drive us crazy. wink.gif

Thanks for sharing the summary, Tombow. biggrin.gif
HisshouBuraiKen
Still no full Raw, though? Boo.
*Yukiko
Wow... there was definitely WAY too much going on in that summary.... and I get the feeling that Arakawa-sensei will not be making this a super-long chapter either. Interesting touches with the Hoho vs Pride thing.. I didn't think that Hoho's preperations were that complete that he can now go head-to-head with Father.. guess Hoho-Papa left Izumi with some info or instructions before he went off to Riole/Liole.

I just don't like the speed in which Arakawa is bringing all the information to light. It's like she's rushing to an ending and that makes me feel that the ending will not be up to the series' standards. And that would be a true tragedy :*(
AA battery
and we could all blame Juushin Enbu if FMA ends up horrible at the end. =_=

Seriously, any one could tell that she has been *rushing* almost every chapter in the 70s range =_= I hope she wasn't serious about ending FMA in chapter 80s. If that really happens, I can't imagine the ending would be as good as it can possibly be. FMA's pacing was very good before. 4 chapters for the Ishbal war flashback was perfectly done. 1 chapter for Hohenheim's past was... ok, it wasn't too bad, but it can surely be done with more details and take up 2 chapters instead.... ok I'll shut up for the time being =_=;; *ish frustrated by both the wait for the raw and exams coming up @_@ I can't seem to concentrate w/ my studies OTL*

But yeah, bottom line is, she needs to stop throwing a bunch of information at us in such a "short" amount of time/pages! It's stressful and leaves us with a "Wha?! But but I am confused!/I want to know more!" feelings...
Chiisana
If she did somehow manage to end FMA by chapter 80, I think everyone of us would be O[]O;;;; shocked. I don't like the idea that FMA is ending soon D:

FMA manga is the source of keeping me as a FMA fan o.o I'm scared that I might not be as big fan as I'm now when it ends T_T

-Try to avoid reading the chapter summary because Chiisana want to 'read' the scanlation first-
Anyarel
Grrrr, why do we have to see Rose instead of my little cute Ed?!

I hate Rose, I hope she'll die soon! xD

Yet this chapter seems interesting and we'll see Roy! smile.gif

Fushi
So I come in this thread to have a random peak like I sometimes do and now you guys have reopened my fear that the FMA manga will end like Rozen Maiden did! D:

Seriously, if FMA ends rushed like RM I am comtemplating seppuku. If it ends on a BLOODY SHOT OF A DOOR you will find a dead Fushi by morning.
Chiisana
Ehh? Rose will appear in this chapter? biggrin.gif Yaaaaay~!!! -Chiisana ish happy- Can't wait for the scan happy.gif
Alchemical
Still no RAW? ;.; *dies* I hope it's out by the time I get back home today.

Hm, I don't like the pace FMA's taking, either. I KNOW it won't end by 80; I don't think Arakawa would take that sort of risk, and end so quickly. I think it has a bit more after 80. But that bit won't be much if it keeps this pace. Perhaps it'll slow down with this chapter?
AA battery
QUOTE(Anyarel @ Dec 12 2007, 02:13 AM) *
Grrrr, why do we have to see Rose instead of my little cute Ed?!

I hate Rose, I hope she'll die soon! xD

Yet this chapter seems interesting and we'll see Roy! smile.gif


o_O How could you hate Roze when she only made appearance in chapter 1 and 2? We know too little about her to actually hate her... isn't it completely normal for any human being to wish for their lover to be resurrected? It's the same w/ Ed and Al, wishing for their mom to come back...

Anime!Roze is NOT the same as Manga!Roze. Don't mix them up.
argh Guess I won't get to read the chapter before my next final exam which is in 3 hours...
Chiyo
I don't think Rose will be in it much, like she's just a connection for now, she hasn't taken enough of a role beforehand.

I can't take this all in till I see it in full form, too much going on.
Anyarel
QUOTE(AA battery @ Dec 12 2007, 01:50 PM) *
QUOTE(Anyarel @ Dec 12 2007, 02:13 AM) *
Grrrr, why do we have to see Rose instead of my little cute Ed?!

I hate Rose, I hope she'll die soon! xD

Yet this chapter seems interesting and we'll see Roy! smile.gif


o_O How could you hate Roze when she only made appearance in chapter 1 and 2? We know too little about her to actually hate her... isn't it completely normal for any human being to wish for their lover to be resurrected? It's the same w/ Ed and Al, wishing for their mom to come back...

Anime!Roze is NOT the same as Manga!Roze. Don't mix them up.
argh Guess I won't get to read the chapter before my next final exam which is in 3 hours...


Actually, I hate her more in the anime than in the manga but in both cases, I think she's too stupid at the beginning of the story. She reminds me of the people in Middle Age who were blinded by their religion. I just hope that now that she appeared again in the manga, she won't be an important character like in the anime. ^^
Animeoldtimer
rolleyes.gif Being bored at seeing no signs of the raw, I thought I'd post a comment about the cover. In the picture where Ed and Al are eating pie, is Ed eating with his right hand or left?? I've tried enlarging the picture, but it just becomes more distorted.
paca
Thanks for the links and summary!! laugh.gif
I am really looking forward to seeing the RAW!!!

Here I found another summary..(not to be translated, but maybe there is some interesting line Ů_Ů)
第78話「七つの罪」を読んでの感想です
ネタばれ鋼の錬金術師第78話
Edamame
QUOTE(Animeoldtimer @ Dec 12 2007, 03:41 PM) *
rolleyes.gif Being bored at seeing no signs of the raw, I thought I'd post a comment about the cover. In the picture where Ed and Al are eating pie, is Ed eating with his right hand or left?? I've tried enlarging the picture, but it just becomes more distorted.


I tried enlarging is as well, and I believe that he is eating the pie with his left arm. The perspective is kind of funny, but I thought that he was turned to the side. (Foreshadowing much.., rolleyes.gif)
His Name is Unknown
QUOTE
Actually, I hate her more in the anime than in the manga but in both cases, I think she's too stupid at the beginning of the story. She reminds me of the people in Middle Age who were blinded by their religion.


You really don't like Rose? Huh...

She's always been one of my favorite characters, both in the anime and manga for the very same reasons you mention for disliking her.

I never viewed her as stupid, but rather innocent albeit naive.

I see nothing wrong with being innocent; in fact, I would find it preferable if more individuals were of such a mind-set. There are too many jaded people in the world today - it's depressing.

Her realization of how she had been manipulated by the people she trusted most was a very powerful moment in both anime and manga. I hope that, as in the anime, she is given a moment to show she has found her own path and something to believe in.

And concerning your comment on religion and the Middle Ages:

People in the Middle Ages weren't blinded by their religion, per se. Rather, they were blinded by ignorance of what the Bible actually said. Catholic tradition at that point dictated that all masses were to be read from the Vulgate (Latin) translation of the Bible by Jerome. Unfortunately, most of the common people had no understanding of Latin and so the masses became more ritual than actual worship.

One of the few recourses for actual Biblical knowledge that an illiterate peasant would have had in the Middle Ages would have been the limited understanding he/she could glean from the storybook depictions of Biblical events on stained glass windows.

The whole purpose of the Reformation, initiated by Martin Luther in 1517 with his 95 Theses was to bring the church back to the authority of scripture over the authority of church tradition. Hence Luther's two defining mottos came to be sola scriptura (scripture alone) and sola fide (faith alone - emphasizing the importance of salvation by faith rather than salvation through good works, a mindset emphasized by the Catholic Church's heresy of indulgences).

The great irony in all of this is that Jerome originally translated the Bible out of the Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic so that the common man could read and understand its truths (hence the latin Vulgate, meaning vulgar or common). This translation was then used by the church to perpetuate the same kind of ignorance which Jerome worked so hard to combat!
nick fury
I often wonder if the peasants and common folk back then were taught to read if things would've been any different. The church found a way or rather was forced to become everything to everyone. When Rome fell there was a vacuum created which the church could only fill. There was no longer a local roman magistrate to enforce laws, or to interprete written law. Priests were the only local people educated enough to preside over local matters. It really wasn't a broad church conspiracy to create illiterate masses that would blindly follow but more of an wealthy organized and educated body of people who saw an opportunity and seized it. Clearly the actions of the Church during this time was less than "Christian" or christ like, but the churches actions were more of a response to the times than it was the creators or the condition of the times. Also the Catholic Church had already modeled itself and it's hierarchy after the Roman empire so it was an easy transition for the masses to accept. The masses needed to be led and told what to do, please tell us does the goat belong to our village or theirs? Does the land belong to me or my neighbor?
Look at people today, the literate bunch that we are yet we remain ignorant and blindly obedient.
Kimi-N-Ed
QUOTE(Animeoldtimer @ Dec 12 2007, 09:41 AM) *
rolleyes.gif Being bored at seeing no signs of the raw, I thought I'd post a comment about the cover. In the picture where Ed and Al are eating pie, is Ed eating with his right hand or left?? I've tried enlarging the picture, but it just becomes more distorted.


hmmmmm to me it looks like the right hand to me ...can I say yay. but before i say yay let's look at the cover lol. To me it looks like the right because if you look closly Ed is like facing Al or so i think thats him and if you turn the same way as him you could see that his left hand or arm is down and he's eating pie with his OMG ohmy.gif right hand lol. cause it looks like the arm is coming from the right side. Cause if it was the left arm would've the arm block like his shirt or something? huh.gif But yea thats my guess.
Tombow
Hmmm, still no raw?! I'm all geared up for the heavy duty translation session (judging from the preview summary.. ^^) and just waiting and waiting... XDD

Meantime, Animeoldtimer's question... I enlarged the cover pic and checked also... XD
The line up of fingers looks like that is his right hand to me. ^^

@Paca - Thanks for the link!! ^^ I checked the site, and it's basically his random thoughts on this month's chapter. He writes something about Ho-ho refusing his "Hohenheim" name because it was a name given by Homunculus, but without direct reference to the raw I don't know if it's in this chapter, or if that's his theory since I haven't read the raw yet.. But, if it's really true and Ho-ho is refusing his name because it's given by Homunculus, then us having been calling him Ho-ho and not using his "real' Hohenheim name (for the wrong reason XDD) is justified!!! laugh.gif
His Name is Unknown
To Nick...

I agree with everything you said. I think it would be foolish to ignore the political/economic roles which the church filled after the fall of Rome. And as to whether or not literacy would have solved the problem, that is difficult to say.

The Reformation certainly had a profound and lasting effect on the course of Christianity (in my opinion, for the better), but that was a different time. We are all shaped to some extend by where and when we live, but I do think we are capable of rising above that with adequate education and disciplined self-examination. It's not easy though, that's for sure.

This among other reasons, is why I am sympathetic to a character like Rose. Being raised in a more overtly religious setting has something to do with this, because I have experienced first hand the harmful effects an overly developed religious sense and an underdeveloped intellect can have on people.

Taking advantage of someone's spiritual life and deeply-held beliefs for material gain strikes a chord with me, so whenever I see such a character in a story, I always root for them.

Anyway...

Concerning the summary - I, for one, do not mind the accelerated pace, so long as it is not indicative of a rushed ending. If Arakawa is just building momentum to the outbreak of the final conflict, that's fine. I actually enjoy the change of pace after the deliberation of the past several volumes. As long as we get a close look at all the major showdowns that need to take place (Kimbly vs. Scar, Mustang vs. Envy, Armstrong vs. Fuhrer, Hohenheim vs. Father, etc.) I will be perfectly happy. Also, I'm hoping for an extended conclusion ala the Return of the King. Such an epic and involved story as FMA demands full closure.

I like that Liore is being featured again. Thought it was a nice way to bring things full circle in the anime, and my sentiments haven't changed for the manga. The underground lair in Cornelo's church being a part of Sloth's tunneling operation was a nice touch. Also, the forbidden fountain sounds suspiciously like the fountain of red water that Mugiar was researching in the anime. Yet more parallels emerge.

The face-off between Father and Hohenheim sounds awesome, and it is really making me thing that Selim is somehow possessed rather than actually Pride. In fact, I'd say their dialogue all but confirms it - but that's just me.

Great to see Mustang's gang getting some more page-time. They've been missed as of late. It really looks like we're in for an epic military face off. I'm thinking CoS, sans Nazis. And if Roy loses an eye somewhere along the way I wouldn't be suprised in the least.

Can't wait for the raw!
paca
*bored wating so I'll will join the "arm topic"*
About the hand.....mhhh... I am nearly 99% sure that's the right arm >.<
It's nearly impossible for that arm to be the left one! LooK:
- look where is the elbown and where the left arm "should" be:

(very lame explanation D:)

@Tombow: Ohhh! Bad luck ! >.< I was hoping to find more details during the wait for the RAW!! About "ho-ho" we will have to see xD!
His Name is Unknown
Edited this post to remove repeat content...

Somehow my entire post was put up twice?! Sorry :o

TheRainbowConnection
About the arm bit:

It's pretty obviously the right arm. Bring up your arms so that the inside of your wrists are facing you, like they are in that picture. Where is your thumb? If it was the left hand, you would be able to see Ed's thumb in the above pic. However, you can't, meaning it's his right hand.
Gukumatz
Thank you, Tomboy, for the summary translation!

I'm also really enjoying the discussion on church history after the fall of Rome.

And I'm putting in another vote for manga!Rose =/= anime!Rose. Please don't displace your dislike of the latter onto the former. We don't know enough yet. You wouldn't want people hating manga!Winry just because they didn't like anime!Winry, would you?

Please, RAW, come out of hiding!
Sannom
For the summary, why did they say that Fury was in the Northern Army? Isn't he in the Southern or Western Army?
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