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Automail Really Can Work!
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post Jul 21 2006, 01:37 PM
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I forget where I saw this, but a team of students at a college (I think it was in ohio) designed automail for a cat, using the ideas of how automail should work from FullMetal Alchemist.

They used low-power servos, and connected the automail directly to the nerves where the limb was severed (by a car).

Amazingly, it worked just like in the show!! Fine motor skills and everything!

The arm felt no pain, but it moved! The cat didn't even know the difference.

The only reason it was disregarded as a permanent solution for limb replacement is that also, like in the show, there was immense pain upon connecting it, much like if you have your speakers turned up all the way, and then connect the signal. The pain was so intense, that no matter how many sedatives they gave the cat, she wouldn't stop meowing. It almost died, so the procedure couldn't be done on humans, but even so, automail really can work.[font=Arial]
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post Jul 21 2006, 01:44 PM
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I know this is off topic but...
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Its exactly the same


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post Jul 21 2006, 01:46 PM
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awesome! ...wow... LOL i'm such a geek but i think that's pretty cool. happy.gif at least the cat can walk though and didn't mauled by the car like mine... . ~_~


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post Jul 21 2006, 02:30 PM
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That sounds so cruel.


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post Jul 21 2006, 04:48 PM
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Yeah, it does sound cruel.I would rather have my cat, missing legs, than it be in pain.


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post Jul 21 2006, 04:50 PM
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It may sound cruel, but remember what Pinako said: even the toughest men have broken down when their nerves were connected to automail. I'm sure once they find a way to make that pain go down a bit, automail will exist in our world, to actually be used on humans.


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post Jul 21 2006, 05:02 PM
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Yeah but I'm sure those men chose to have auto-mail, and knew of the pain they would suffer from it.Putting it on a helpless cat, that makes it in so much pain that it almost dies is extremly cruel.


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post Jul 21 2006, 05:46 PM
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I have seen on tv something similar (without the pain) but for humans.


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post Jul 21 2006, 05:47 PM
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maybe but it would be cruel to the poor cat to not be able to walk, too wouldn't it? personally, if i lost a leg, i'd wouldn't give a crap how much it hurt because i wouldn't hbe able to tolerate being crippled.


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Cats can still walk if they're missing just one leg...And if they're missing more, well sucks to be that cat.


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post Jul 21 2006, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Petalchaser @ Jul 21 2006, 08:47 PM) [snapback]424224[/snapback]

maybe but it would be cruel to the poor cat to not be able to walk, too wouldn't it? personally, if i lost a leg, i'd wouldn't give a crap how much it hurt because i wouldn't hbe able to tolerate being crippled.


....you have a choice.....the cat participating doesn't.


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And I think you would care about the pain if you almost died from it.


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Think of it this way, what would happen if they had performed the operation on a human, but the pain was more than expected, it killed him? Would it not be more reasonable to test if the technology will first work than to risk a human life? I know that the cat has a life too, but think of all the other types of research that is being performed on animals right now, or those that were done in the past. Most benefited humanity. It's kinda like Equivlent Exchange, a cat is used as the price to find out if automail is possible, and if it can be done to humans. Right now, the pain's too much, I agree, but I'm positive they will come up with some way to lessen it.


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QUOTE (HalfAsian Alchemist @ Jul 21 2006, 09:36 PM) *
Think of it this way, what would happen if they had performed the operation on a human, but the pain was more than expected, it killed him? Would it not be more reasonable to test if the technology will first work than to risk a human life? I know that the cat has a life too, but think of all the other types of research that is being performed on animals right now, or those that were done in the past. Most benefited humanity. It's kinda like Equivlent Exchange, a cat is used as the price to find out if automail is possible, and if it can be done to humans. Right now, the pain's too much, I agree, but I'm positive they will come up with some way to lessen it.


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there's ethics to animal research.

and don't compare real life to some equivalent exchange bull from anime.


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QUOTE(HalfAsian Alchemist @ Jul 22 2006, 06:50 AM) [snapback]424208[/snapback]

It may sound cruel, but remember what Pinako said: even the toughest men have broken down when their nerves were connected to automail. I'm sure once they find a way to make that pain go down a bit, automail will exist in our world, to actually be used on humans.


True, Pinako said that, but those men DID choose to have automails, they accepted the pain. But, the cat probably did NOT choose to endure such pain of connecting the nerves, which makes it very cruel. If they do find to lessen the pain, automail existing in our world is someting quite interesting (me being a fan of automail). Also, knowing that the cat can move like normal is a good thing to hear, and that the pain didn't come for a total waste.


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