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My Theory On Envy's Fate..., SPOILERS
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post Oct 6 2004, 08:40 PM
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yeah uh.. he turns into the "Green Dragon of Envy" lol. somebody said something to me and i think they're right. that showing envy turning into the serpent and coming to 'our world' is like proving that monsters really do exist here and how they come. when real humunculi cross the gate they become monsters.. i think lol.

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QUOTE(Zel @ Oct 6 2004, 01:59 PM)
I don't think Envy could ever make it beyond The Gate. He has no soul after all. If HoL and Ed are any proof, then our world is the place where bodiless souls gather.
Here's my thought - HoL lost his body when Dante separated his mind, soul, and body so his soul went to our world. Ed gave up his body to Al, so his soul goes to our world. Neither HoL or Ed have physical bodies in their world anymore, so they can't return via alchemy.
So they're stuck.
Since Envy has no soul and probably can't go to London without one, chances are he's still trapped within the Gate.

i think you're on the right track!! maybe monsters don't have souls though, and since the humunculi don't have souls, that is why they become monsters? hm.


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post Oct 7 2004, 08:38 AM
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Hmmm, couldn't it be that the Homunculi-don't-have-souls-thing is just a bunch of crap? And Envy really did transport into another body once he came out on the other side of the Gate...?

EDIT: Oi, that sounds crappy. Never mind. -__- I'm gonna go eat, my stomach's upsetting my mind.


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post Oct 7 2004, 02:25 PM
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^^; If it's just meant to be a load of crap, I don't understand why the writers would bring it up...

<.< And, sorry I made a mistake about Al, Torx. Thank you so much for your correction and the terrible first impression too.
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post Oct 7 2004, 03:04 PM
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my normal self would have said " couldn't it be that the creators just want us to think till our heads blow?"

but since i'm high today..... i agree that envy is probably dead or trpped:P i just dont know why the hell envy wanted to transform into a serpent dragon ><
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post Oct 7 2004, 03:25 PM
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QUOTE(Zel @ Oct 7 2004, 09:25 PM)
^^; If it's just meant to be a load of crap, I don't understand why the writers would bring it up...

<.< And, sorry I made a mistake about Al, Torx. Thank you so much for your correction and the terrible first impression too.

huh.gif Why are you sorry?

That's why we discuss... to clear up. I've been wrong too. At one point I thought it was EdxWinry...

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post Oct 7 2004, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 7 2004, 03:04 PM)
my normal self would have said " couldn't it be that the creators just want us to think till our heads blow?"

but since i'm high today..... i agree that envy is probably dead or trpped:P i just dont know why the hell envy wanted to transform into a serpent dragon ><

*hopes desperately that he made it through* hmmm....need to read the first five pages before I post any more.........but at least we have the potential for the movie right nere!
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QUOTE(Torx @ Oct 7 2004, 10:25 PM)
AlxWinry!!! ALL THE WAY!!!

Now that's the spirit! biggrin.gif

Hmmm, yeah I know about that soulles Homunculi thingamabob... but I can't stop my mind from wondering about Envy... really turning out to be that snake/serpent/Leviathan in the end. Maybe he'll come out on the other side of the Gate as a human. Or maybe he'll be stuck inside the Gate until Al, Ed or Hohenheim manage to get back to their own world... or something.

...do we still need to use spoiler tags here? blink.gif Nah, didn't think so.


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post Oct 7 2004, 04:38 PM
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Hohenheim decided to stay didn't he?
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post Oct 8 2004, 11:53 PM
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Very interesting theory..I thought that the dragon looked A LOT like the one of Dragonball Z... Maybe it foreshadowed that since Funanimation took FMA to North America..it was a resemblence of the dragon from Dragonball Z, which funanimation also "took care" of.. lol.

Well that's MY theory .lol. laugh.gif


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post Oct 9 2004, 10:28 PM
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Got the newest issue of Animage yesterday. With it comes a special booklet that contains updated character designs (up to Edward's present appearance at present, in Munich)

Found the green serpent design here. Kinda small, but yeah.

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Says at the bottom:
Envy's last transformation (snake: uroboros?) before disappearing into the gate.


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post Oct 10 2004, 01:18 AM
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In other words, with that question mark, even the Japanese are confused over what that reptile is.
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post Oct 10 2004, 03:44 AM
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Only the story-editor and director would know really... since this IS a fan magazine.


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