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My Theory On Envy's Fate..., SPOILERS
Sycia
post Oct 5 2004, 04:39 AM
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Yeah, that was something I was wondering too... after all Envy isn't human at all, and the power he has comes from within. Well I guess we have to wait till the movie. If it doesn't feature him, you'll see a newspaper report on a girl who, on the movie's opening day, ramaged through Shinjuku, Tokyo's threaters screaming:

"ENVY!!~#(U*!(*$&! DOKO DAAAA(*^&!*%&^(*!^%*
(Translated: ENVY!!! WHERE ARE YOU!)*&$(!&)

and stabbing noisy passerbys with steak knives.


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post Oct 5 2004, 04:46 AM
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QUOTE(Sycia @ Oct 5 2004, 11:39 AM)
"ENVY!!~#(U*!(*$&! DOKO DAAAA(*^&!*%&^(*!^%*
(Translated: ENVY!!! WHERE ARE YOU!)*&$(!&)

I think you forgot to translate the wacky signs. tongue.gif

@Torx: oh, right. Completely slipped my mind about his powers. biggrin.gif;;;


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post Oct 5 2004, 05:06 AM
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7 sins and 7 demons

1.Pride - lucifer
2.Greed - mammon
3.Lust - Asmoday、Asmodee
4.Wrath - satan
5.Gluttony - beelzebub、belzebub
6.Envy - leviathan
7.Sloth - belphegor

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post Oct 5 2004, 05:12 AM
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Lucifer = Satan = Beelzebub

Pride = Wrath = Gluttony? huh.gif
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post Oct 5 2004, 05:18 AM
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Hmm, yeah that's kinda... weirded out schizo. biggrin.gif;;


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post Oct 5 2004, 05:19 AM
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is that y envy turned into a dragonish creatuere at the end.
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post Oct 5 2004, 05:23 AM
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Maybe. Or maybe it was just coincedence. smile.gif If you think Bones would go through the trouble to look up info about the 7 Sins and anything related to them, than the answer's yes.

We won't know for sure unless we ask Bones directly, though. Or if they actually tell why he transformed into "Leviathan" in the Movie. *__* Want movie so bad.


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post Oct 5 2004, 06:49 AM
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A crazy guess would be that Studio Bones did want to use the image of a Dragon but they didn't want to have a trial with Studio Gibli (Sen To Chihiro) or with Toei Animation (Saint Seiya and Dragon Ball) so as a consequence, they decided to draw a Dragon without limbs so that no one will accuse them of forgery. laugh.gif

There are so many "famous" dragon in anime so they wanted to be different from the other studios laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2004, 07:14 AM
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my theory is that BONES just had to kill envy in the most stupid n uncool way... mad.gif
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post Oct 5 2004, 07:21 AM
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@Guest again: yeah, dragons are pretty popular in anime/manga. biggrin.gif Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case.

@Hagane no Archer: you sure that's a theory and not an opinion? smile.gif


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post Oct 5 2004, 07:23 AM
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I don't care whether my suggestion is true or not.
but I wonder why so many people dislike this opinion.
Is there any problem if that creature ware Leviathan?

anyway, please check the image of that creature more.

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post Oct 5 2004, 07:28 AM
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't dislike it. It would be cool if he Envy really did transform into Leviathan. *__* He's a creature of the element Water, right? Anything with that element's got my undevided attention. Not to mention it sounds plausible enough. biggrin.gif

*looks at second picture* ...ok, baby Leviathan looks like a.. a nevermind. I'd rather not say. biggrin.gif;;


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post Oct 5 2004, 07:44 AM
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QUOTE(Omakase Shimasu @ Oct 5 2004, 02:28 PM)
Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't dislike it. It would be cool if he Envy really did transform into Leviathan. *__* He's a creature of the element Water, right? Anything with that element's got my undevided attention. Not to mention it sounds plausible enough. biggrin.gif

*looks at second picture* ...ok, baby Leviathan looks like a.. a nevermind. I'd rather not say. biggrin.gif;;

Thanks. I feel easy. I was worrying that there might be special reason for refusing this.
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anyway, I don't want to persist my opinion too much.
I will appreciate more differnt point of view. laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2004, 07:49 AM
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Well, I'd love to give a different view, but unfortunately I'm all out of ideas. smile.gif I'm not much of a researcher myself, so must of my ideas would turn out to be fiction anyway. laugh.gif

But than... I've still got that question about those three particular creatures. Satan, Beelzebub and Lucifer. Aren't they the same "person"? blink.gif


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post Oct 5 2004, 08:00 AM
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Netabare> that is by far the superior theory when compared to the thought of Envy turning into the loch ness monster...

Afterall, there's a lot of Christian context used in FMA as a whole. (allusions to events, etc) So I definitely wouldn't be surprised if that was what Bones wanted to convey. Great catch, I never noticed.
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