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Riza Or Lisa?
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post May 17 2006, 02:12 PM
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I looked around and didn't see a thread about this so i made it. smile.gif


I just started learning Japanese and i learned that in Japan R's are pronounced as L's. So instead of Riza it's actually Lisa. Maybe it's just my book is a crock, or a knockoff or something.


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post May 17 2006, 03:40 PM
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It's generally written and pronounced 'Riza' with an R sound. 'Liza' might be an extraneous translation or somesuch, but I'm not familiar enough with Japanese spelling to say any more than that it's what everyone except for Evil Genius spelled it as. Sometimes, Ls and Rs sound similar- in the anime subs, Alphonse sounds sort of in betwee that and 'Arphonse' but it's pretty apparent that it's supposed to be Alphonse. Riza is the same. It sounds a bit closer to an R, though.


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post May 17 2006, 06:01 PM
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R's are pronounced as neither "R" nor "L". There is really no differentiation, and this causes confusion to native speakers who try to learn other languages.

There's no correct way as far as we know. Riza sounds cooler, though.


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post May 17 2006, 06:05 PM
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the correct form of write it, is with "R", just that in some lenguages sound wierd, and sound like a "L", but is Riza


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post May 17 2006, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ May 17 2006, 09:31 PM) [snapback]396877[/snapback]

R's are pronounced as neither "R" nor "L". There is really no differentiation, and this causes confusion to native speakers who try to learn other languages.

There's no correct way as far as we know. Riza sounds cooler, though.


yeah Riza does sound better.


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post May 18 2006, 05:56 AM
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Of course it is Riza! What else could it be?! no da?! dry.gif mad.gif


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post May 18 2006, 03:23 PM
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The official spelling is Riza, but some people prefer to spell it different ways.
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post May 18 2006, 08:22 PM
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I knew it was Riza! I just wanted to know if it was just my book that I'm learning Japanese from was a ripp-off.


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I think it's Riza........well, cuzz Riza gots an edge to it.....
and Lt. Hawkeye is edgy...^^


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post May 20 2006, 03:35 PM
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me being the ROYxRIZA fan I am im pretty sure it's Riza with an "R". It says so on offical sites and so forth, "Liza" probably came from wrong dubbing as others have said before, so yea. It sounds better as Riza anyway laugh.gif


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post May 20 2006, 03:44 PM
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Actually, the official translators screwed up big-time. I know for a fact that it's 'Lisa' and not 'Riza'.

Remember when Roy and the gang were hunting for Barry the Chopper in the manga? Remember what Hawkeye's codename was? 'Elizabeth'. What's short for 'Elizabeth'? 'Lisa'.

THat is unless, of course, Arakawa in mind had that quirky Eastern European version of the name, 'Erszebet', in which case it actually could be shortened to 'Riza'. But that's not especially likely.


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post May 20 2006, 04:17 PM
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See, I knew it was sopposed to be Lisa and someone finally agrees with me!!!


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post May 20 2006, 04:17 PM
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i think that is riza,...but Void explain was amazing (in what ep???)


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post May 20 2006, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(Void @ May 20 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]398374[/snapback]
Remember when Roy and the gang were hunting for Barry the Chopper in the manga? Remember what Hawkeye's codename was? 'Elizabeth'. What's short for 'Elizabeth'? 'Lisa'.


Yes. A code name. Meaning not her real name. And Jean was Jaqueline, Kain was Kate, and eventually, Barry was "Bonnie".

I sure hope those aren't their 'real' names.

Really, why would they use her real full name as a code name when they were trying to hide the fact that they really were talking to each other?


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post May 20 2006, 07:10 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ May 20 2006, 07:18 PM) [snapback]398389[/snapback]

QUOTE(Void @ May 20 2006, 03:44 PM) [snapback]398374[/snapback]
Remember when Roy and the gang were hunting for Barry the Chopper in the manga? Remember what Hawkeye's codename was? 'Elizabeth'. What's short for 'Elizabeth'? 'Lisa'.


Yes. A code name. Meaning not her real name. And Jean was Jaqueline, Kain was Kate, and eventually, Barry was "Bonnie".

I sure hope those aren't their 'real' names.

Really, why would they use her real full name as a code name when they were trying to hide the fact that they really were talking to each other?

Because the casual observer wouldn't be able to make that connection, anyway.


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