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Chapter 59 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post May 1 2006, 10:40 AM
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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 59 here. smile.gif


For info about the "Reading Reference", go to page 17.


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RAW and content discussions start on page 7!!

~Chapter 59, New Month, New Chapter! Countdown and prediction!! ~

We're almost at the the Chapter 60 mark! Yay!

The flashback should pick up where Riza left off and we'll get to see Roy, Armstrong, and the three other State Alchemists fighting in Ishval. Maybe we'll see how Scar got his scar and if it was Kimbley who gave it to him as it was in the anime. Marcoh and Knox haven't made appearances yet, so whatever they were up to is still a mystery. Riza herself hasn't appeared in her own flashback, either. What was she doing all this time? Hopefully we'll get some more clarification on these things in a few days. Squee! biggrin.gif


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post May 1 2006, 11:37 AM
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squeee!! can't wait to read it!!!


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post May 1 2006, 12:02 PM
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Oh, must you remind us that we're waiting? grrr. Marcoh and Knox did make a teensy weensy appearance each in chapter 58, Knox when Riza's doing her speechish thing, and Marcoh just before Scar. But, yes, they haven't *appeared.*

My bet is that the chapter starts out with Marcoh, and him beginning to explain to Scar what was going on in the laborotories (bets that they use the Ishvalian military members?) Then, we move back to Al and Knox, segued through Knox appearing in Marcoh's flashback. Next, we learn about the extermination from Knox, and finally return to Riza and Ed talking about her history.

Just a speculation, but I think that all three of those things will be in the chapter, if not necessarily like that.


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post May 1 2006, 12:39 PM
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My bet is that it starts as if noone is telling us anything, and eventually will appear marcoh telling the story.


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I hope some EdxWinry is added.


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post May 1 2006, 01:14 PM
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I wish some RoyxRiza T^T


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QUOTE(CowAlchemist @ May 1 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]388894[/snapback]

I hope some EdxWinry is added.
That would be completely random and out of place.


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ohh but i bet Sensei might just save the best for last...

that might mean no RoyxRiza moments till quite a bit later..! T__T
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post May 1 2006, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE(N. Havoc J. @ May 1 2006, 04:24 PM) [snapback]388899[/snapback]

QUOTE(CowAlchemist @ May 1 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]388894[/snapback]

I hope some EdxWinry is added.
That would be completely random and out of place.

Yes, Winry is off in Rush Valley, and they're in the middle of beginning the Ishval flashback. EdxWin *will* happen in the series (yay, fangirls and fanboys alike!) but not anytime soon. Chapter 70, 75 would be my guess... *drools in anticipation* It'll be nice when they finally get over all of that... schtuff. I wonder what Al would think about that? Once he gets his body back, he might like Winry just as much as Ed...
*gets back to the matter at hand*


Reika, I agree that that's another possible and even likely beginning. Another is that they start with 'executive order 3066' and then show the alchemists pwning women, children, and various establishments. It should be a pretty awesome chapter: we'll finally begin to understand what happened in Ishbal. This spoiler party will probably be one of the best that we've had in a while.

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post May 1 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(Antimony @ May 1 2006, 07:40 PM) [snapback]388830[/snapback]

We're almost at the the Chapter 60 mark! Yay!

The flashback should pick up where Riza left off and we'll get to see Roy, Armstrong, and the three other State Alchemists fighting in Ishval. Maybe we'll see how Scar got his scar and if it was Kimbley who gave it to him as it was in the anime. Marcoh and Knox haven't made appearances yet, so whatever they were up to is still a mystery. Riza herself hasn't appeared in her own flashback, either. What was she doing all this time? Hopefully we'll get some more clarification on these things in a few days. Squee! biggrin.gif

Hmmm, note: It was not Riza's story... How the f*** would she know what Scar and his brother would have been discussing? Or about the Rockbells? (If she knew, not telling Winry about that would've been REALLY cruel)

It's just that, the "coincidence" of several characters reminding Ishval at the same time serves as an excuse to show us, the readers, what happened there as if it was the normal manga, that is, from no specific POV, and all of them at the same time. Just to close, at least to us, the readers, this topic once and for all.

This quite a usual thing to do, AFAIK, in narrative.


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Jeeej! I can't wait (yet again)

I hope we get more insight in Ishvall in this one. But I "fear" it will go into Scar's side of the story, the tatoo on his arm, that sort of stuff. And maybe the encounter with Kimblee.


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QUOTE(N. Havoc J. @ May 1 2006, 09:24 PM) [snapback]388899[/snapback]

QUOTE(CowAlchemist @ May 1 2006, 04:02 PM) [snapback]388894[/snapback]

I hope some EdxWinry is added.
That would be completely random and out of place.


Well not really, the past couple of chapters have had some form of Ed/Win, its just not been interaction between them. I think it will be hinted at quite a bit now (where needed)

I hope this chapter is a bit more then filler, it has to build up to chapter 60.


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Ishbal spills it's secrets...amongst other things. Here's some food for thought: Didn't some of the Devil's Nest crew hail from the Ishbalian front? Perhaps we haven't seen the last of our loyal subordinates. We also finally get to see Kimbley and Grand, face to face, which brings up another interesting note. All this time, we've steadfastly stood by that the Manga Grand might not look like the Anime one, as he hasn't appeared yet, nor was likely too at the time. However, this suggest that the two media are closer in this aspect than we might have thought. What I want to know is...when comes Archer? ph34r.gif

Scar's tatoo and scar will reveal themselves soon, methinks. Perhaps we will even know his name...

Also, and this is merely wishful thinking, the last round of flashbacks we had ended with a resolution and a new Homunculi. Perhaps the patern will repeat itself.


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THE LONG WAITED CHAP OF THE ISHBAL WAR!!!!!!!!
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Scar's tatoo and scar will reveal themselves soon, methinks. Perhaps we will even know his name...

GASP!!
I totally forgot about that!! Mabye Scar's name will be known.. but I don't think it will be revealed in the next chap though... possibly the next next one or mabye Arakawa-sensei will do the same thing as the anime and seal it off.

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As intriguing as Ishbal is I really hope we get some Winry,Greed II, and RanFan. Funny out of all the crazy ideas and out of all he crazy question I've had in my head, I never once really owndered what Scar's real name is. I'm betting that Hiromu revealed some secrets to the anime wrters about her plans for the future(like that Kimblee killed Scar) but that though has me really worried about Ed killing Greed(Yikes even the possibility is scary sure it adds more drama but ;_; at the though of Ed having to kill Ling, though I bet that's nothing more than paranoia on my part) I wonder if Envy is going to play a big role in the war rather than justing shooting a kid(I mean seriously I hope that Envy doesn't get Darth Vader'D and is only though of to kill kids that just wouldn't be cool)

From what the Homonculus were saying it sounds like nearly an entire country had to be used as ingredients for a Philospher but from what Marcoah was saying I'm guessing the Ishvalians were used as sacrifices but between the ones killed on the battlefeild and the suviors there doesn't seem to be nearly enough people to make a Philospher Stone, especially taking Xeries into consideration. I wonder if there will be any more Alchemist other than Roy,Armstrong,Gran,Marcoah,Kimblee, and the Silve Alchemist(forgot his name) you'd think there'd be more State Alchemist than just them.


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