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The Da Vinci Code, Well heres aother book to discuss!
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post May 18 2006, 06:49 PM
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post May 19 2006, 12:48 AM
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All right, no more spam now, kids. biggrin.gif

I have read the book, and I intend to see the movie. Personally, I enjoyed the book to some extent. I do like mysteries, and that aspect appealed to me. However, that same aspect also made everything almost too predictable in some cases. You know it's predictable when you figure out a puzzle before the characters do. Then again, maybe it was supposed to be dramatically ironic like that. Who knows?

As for the "factual" elements, I admire Brown's ability to think of something so conspiratorial, and being able to fabricate a general theme out of all these little ideas. The story is fiction, obviously, but the rest of the book is filled with details about Da Vinci's artwork and descriptions of real-life places. I think the trouble starts when people are absorbed into all the actual "factual" things (location, artifacts, etc.), and begin to believe that the rest of the "facts" must be true as well.

Yeah, I don't know where I'm going with this, but all I know is that I see the book merely as something entertaining. Sure, the possibilities are fun/intriguing to dwell on, but I wouldn't think too much past them.


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post May 19 2006, 02:58 AM
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*I don't mean to spam here for talking about the movie instead of the book*

I skipped morning class and watched the movie today (what for coming to school for an hour of crappy lecture and wait 4 hours for the next one?).. biggrin.gif Anyway, the movie was at 11a.m., and the cinema was not crowded.
The movie was great I'd say. The camera movements were really good, it wraps up the ENTIRE, magnificent setting of every scene perfectly. Speaking about the settings of the movie, I'm sure ancient artefact lover would LOVE them XD.
Storywise, I didn't read the book before watching the movie. The story was pretty cool, I was so hooked to those codes. Overall, the story was perfect smile.gif . I wonder how did Brown get to know all these codes and the whole history about Jesus and Christianity. The story was a fiction, isn't it? After watching the movie, it seems kind of true

For those who have watched the movie, I wanna know if you have noticed the old sister in the church was it Templar Church?. In the middle of the movie, Silas smashed her head with the stone tablet he found at the church right? What happened to her in the end? Did she die? I was pretty sure the movie did not tell me this.. unsure.gif
I think "Silas" and "Teabing" are insane idiots..


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post May 19 2006, 03:41 PM
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Ok the best lines in the film which cracked me up (as well as I can recall them);
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Despite the various efforts of multiple people, I have yet to read this book for some odd reason. Yet I have read the 'prequel' Angles & Demons. Which did peak my intrest, but I haven't gotten around to read da vinci... There makeing such a big deal out of this book and now movie, I don't think its needed.

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post May 19 2006, 03:52 PM
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My post shall fixed now! And it's "Prequal" not Prequil IIRC.


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post May 19 2006, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(popogeejo @ May 19 2006, 03:52 PM) [snapback]397884[/snapback]

My post shall fixed now! And it's "Prequal" not Prequil IIRC.

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...yes. Prequel.

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Anyways, I just got back from seeing it. I liked it, but I think that anyone who hadn't read the book would be completely left in the dust. Also, it felt pretty slow paced. Mainly, the best reason to see it is as a companion to the book- it illustrates all of the scenes and artwork quite nicely. It really lets one get a good idea of what they're actually talking about in most of the book wihtout having to endlessly image search on Google.

I see why people have been saying that it wasn't a great movie though. I did like how it sticks to the book so well, and how it represented the ending and various scenes. It was nice, though a bit pathetic in parts. Sophie Neveu also struck me as being the classic Anti-Mary-Sue: instead of the author surrogate, the reader surrogate. She was completely clueless and only useful to ask stupid questions so that people who haven't read the book would get a clue as to what's going on, and to say stupid things, like ZOMG I CAN'T WALK ON WATER! MAYBE I CAN TURN IT INTO WINE! She also had that pathetic little 'victorious hero swaggerwalk at the end which I find particularly irksome outside of Indiana Jones and James Bond.

What is without fault, however, is the acting. All of the main characters played their parts well, especially Ian McKellen as Leigh Teabing. He did a wonderful job. Sophie and Langdon weren't quite so good, but only because Tom Hanks and the other one didn't really have roles that allowed them to shine in the right ways.

Well, overall, it was nice.


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post May 20 2006, 11:58 AM
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Yes, I would say definately read the book before watching the movie... It wouldn't make a whole lot of sense otherwise.

I think the main problem with the movie was that they tried to put in all these things that were in the book, without having the time to explain them. Some things books do you really can't do in movies, and it's best to just take them out when you can. Little details that made the book interesting just make the movie drag a bit, and make even less sense.

They also leaned too much on digital effects. It's all very well to see words lighting up and planets moving around and glowing, but it can't be used to entirely make the scene. It's nice scenery, but it should be the actors creating the drama, not computer generated things. The actors just had to stand there and stare at things that didn't exist for half the movie.

Flashbacks! Too many flashbacks, not enough explanation. Especially the one about Silas. In the book I found Silas to be an interesting character, especially with his background. In the movie however, his flasback was a random flip-through of images, which would have made no sense if it weren't for the book explanation. I mean, I almost didn't understand any of it, and I've read the book!

Despite all that, I enjoyed the movie, and I think it's worth seeing, but only if you've read the book... It did have it's good moments, and overall it wasn't too bad... What I said before was probably mostly just me being picky.

Oh, and @ME, I rather like the part where she tried to walk on water. It was possibly the only piece of humor she gave to the film.
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post Jun 10 2006, 11:58 PM
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It's kinda hard to follow the movie if you haven't read the book. Most stuff there really doesn't stick to the original intention of the book. For example, the part where the book narrates the story of Silas, and how he got to meet Aringarosa. The part where he was in the prison was missing, as well as the destruction of the prison. Also, Silas was NOT religious when he was still inside the prison.

Some parts in the original flow of the story was also altered in the movie, as in the case of the correspondence between Bezu Fache and Aringarosa.

The book's story is superb, but having read the Angels and Demons novel also by Dan Brown, I can say that the two stories have many similarities. Both of them are good, though.

Dan Brown must have spent lots of time for his research on the background of the church and other matters connected to it, including Opus Dei, the Templars, and the Priory of Sion.

However, many people claim that the 'facts' (which is written at the beginning of the book) that Dan Brown wants the readers to believe, are really products of false records. I have watched some of these on the feature about the book, but I forgot the title.

This book (and movie) has stirred up quite a lot of controversies in our country. Many conservatives motioned that the movie should not be shown here, due to its heretic and anti-religious nature. It has also brought the catholic organization Opus Dei into the spotlight.


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post Jun 11 2006, 11:10 PM
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Many conservatives motioned that the movie should not be shown here, due to its heretic and anti-religious nature.


This is not meant to be offensive in ANY way at all,
but Americans seem to be way too sensitive towards anything coming close to their precious religion, if this topic gets onto this track; I know I just have to make sure there is a topic on Harry potter. but please, you burnt the books as they taught witchcraft to children...lol... Im going to stop now... XD


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post Jun 12 2006, 08:53 PM
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I'm not American..

I am from the Philippines, an archipelago that was colonized by Spain in 1521, thus making Catholicism the major religion here in our country.

People here defend the religion too much that so many movies come out too edited to be good.

In the case of the movie, many people protested that the movie was too heretic to be shown, and many religious and political figures said that the movie "could poison the beliefs of the weak-minded."

As for the book, it now costs thrice as much here, compared to its price about six months ago.

In my opinion, they are overreacting to the novel. It's fiction, for God's sake. Not all of the sh*t stated there are true, and some are only created and connected just to put in the thrill and the complexity of a good and interesting fiction novel.



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As many have mentioned, the only reason people would believe the book a threat is if they have doubt in what they believe anyway. Why should people want it banned if they will never believe what it says? It almost suggests Catholic leaders believe they may lose their 'flock' to the book.

The point Monkey was making is that different places follow the same religion differently. Many people in the UK are Catholic or Christian, but Da Vinci didn't cause nearly as much of a stir here. Yes they wouldn't allow them to film in Westminster, but when it came to filming in Lincoln they saw it as a big opportunity. It has brought people/money to the Cathedral and it has done the same in the other places the film was made.

One thing I didn't like about the end of the film is Sophie's 'family'. In the book it is based around her actual relatives, not so much her 'protectors'. You see her brother but thats about it after he phones the others.

Slow in places, and I thought it was too dark all the time. I know it was mostly set at night but its almost as if they were going for noir.


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Before I had read the book I was told that it defied and insulted God. A co-worker even told me that the book proved that God didn't exist. So After I read the book, I was surprised at how much controversy it aroused. It is merely a fictional book that just tells about another religion.

I was very impressed at Dan Brown's ability to put a whole puzzling conspiracy together and actually make it work. And I was confused at why did people make such a fuss about it.

To be honest, the book did not change my beliefs at all. It was simply a well-written book to me.

I blame the over-zealous religious fanatics, those who believe or don't believe in Christian beliefs. The book is place in the Fiction section of the bookstores for a reason.


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It does not insult God, it attacks some of his followers. It talks about how they covered up the 'truth' and murdered those who believed in the real Holy Grail. I suppose it is odd to think so many people got uppy when it wasn't actually questioning whether God existed at all.

Yes it is a fiction book but he believes some of what he is writing is fact. Its not even the first book to explore these ideas, that was 'The Hold Blood and the Holy Grail'.

Still, as Monkey stated, people burn Harry Potter books, as religious fanatics believe it sends children into the Occult. Da Vinci Code never stood a chance.


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