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Child Abuse, What can be done about it, and why is it still done?
Migchao
post Apr 23 2006, 06:47 PM
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I was typing in 'child games', but I accidentally punched in 'child abuse'. I saw some articles and real life stories from survivors like being beaten, sexually abused, neglected, etc. After reading, I was sickened by the cruelty and what they had to go through, and I saw how different my life is from those poor souls. As an eleven-year-old, I realize their lives are living hells for them. They can't escape. It haunts them. Kids in cages, starved from days to weeks to months, beaten, neglected...the list gets worse.
Abuse takes more than just the color from their lives. It takes the smiles and childhood away. It poisons their souls. It causes permanent effects. Please respond to this topic.
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post Apr 23 2006, 07:05 PM
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Your right, it is a very sick and cruel thing. But, the parents may be going through something tough, although it is still not an excuse. It would also be extremely hard for the child to go through that. I once read a book on how the mother was very nice until the father died, but after the father died the mother abused the child. I think that the parent should get counceling or put the child with another responsible family member, but it is just so hard for the child for many reasons, like the child doesn't want to see their parent that they may have once loved or still do love get hurt, which is just plain terrible on the child.

It's a very sad thing though... sad.gif


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post Apr 23 2006, 07:21 PM
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I have a friend going through this right now, but she can't do anything because she's adopted and her mother has some disease that "protects" her from everything that happens, but it's still not right.
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post Apr 23 2006, 07:30 PM
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That's terrible. Is your friend going through physical abuse? Tell him/her that I pray he/she'll be okay. Do the police know?
I don't think the government is helping. I heard a woman locked her 5-year-old year old daughter in a cage, and abused her 9 and 11 year old sons. And you know what? THE B**** SPENT ONLY A DARN YEAR IN JAIL!!! WHY'S SHE GETTING OFF EASY????!!!
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post Apr 23 2006, 09:50 PM
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i can't resist asking this:


is this thread a pro-abortion thread in disguise?


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post Apr 24 2006, 03:35 AM
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QUOTE("Kittygirl")
I was typing in 'child games', but I accidentally punched in 'child abuse'.


How do you make that mistake?Why don't you just say "I was looking up child abuse" and be done with it.

Sexualy abusing kids is horribl and messed up.

Smacking kids is alot more grey IMO.A light slap upside the head/on the ass isn't gonna break bones or lead to any long or even short term problems.The problem is how can you control stuff like that legaly.
Saying you can hit them but only "so hard" is impossible to enforce legaly.

A long while ago some guy's daughter broke her tooth in the playground.She was in tears so he took her to a dentist where she threw a tantrum because she didn't want to go despite the tooth.Her grabbed her arms and forced her to sit down.The precedure went ahead but the receptionist called the police and the Dad was arrested for child abuse.
I think he was let of eventually but you see the problem (I hope.)

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THE B**** SPENT ONLY A DARN YEAR IN JAIL!!! WHY'S SHE GETTING OFF EASY????!!!


It's very hard to prove to prove abuse.You need medical evidence which can be had to get and the child has to say it was abuse and not an accident.

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I have a friend going through this right now, but she can't do anything because she's adopted and her mother has some disease that "protects" her from everything that happens, but it's still not right.


Get the friend into your house.If the adopted mother has an illness and is unable to care for her charges then she won't be able to look after kids.Social workers should be notified.

BTW:Shouldn't this be in debate district?
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post Apr 24 2006, 12:56 PM
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It really was an accident...a really stupid one. My head doesn't work, unless it wants too.
The investigators found out that the eleven year old had walked BAREFOOT through snow to report the abuse, and the police searched the house and found the nine year old freezing his butt off. Affter seeing that, they marched into the house...looked in the basement...and there was the five year old girl crying. She was locked in a cage, and they found out every time she cried, the parents would call the poor thing a 'little pig' and splash freezing water on her. They also found out that the b**** beat her sons with a WOODEN ROD. I was horrified.
Did you know that child abuse is reported every ten seconds? And that some children die each day as a result of the abuse? The childrens' voices are mournful, but the government blocks out all the pleas for help because 'kids are too small'. No. Child abuse is getting more common.

If you want an see the article and the pic doesn't work, you can see it here.
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post Apr 24 2006, 02:20 PM
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you realize many asian parent's form of discipline is via "child abuse" persay.

You need to hear russell peter's skit on how his dad beat him to really get some perspective on this.

And what's there to debate?

except maybe the question should parents beat their children =D.



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post Apr 24 2006, 02:29 PM
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I suppose that the debate should be 'what should they do about it' but that's a difficult question. There isn't that much that you can do, except eradicate it wherever it appears and try to keep families and children in situations where they can get help instead of becoming violent or submitting to violence and abuse.


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post Apr 24 2006, 02:39 PM
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And what's there to debate?


Is it ever ok to hit a kid,even lighty to instill some disapline,
What can be about it,
How else can we keep kids inline,just asking them not to won't always work.


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post Apr 24 2006, 02:45 PM
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QUOTE(popogeejo @ Apr 24 2006, 02:39 PM) [snapback]385531[/snapback]

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And what's there to debate?


Is it ever ok to hit a kid,even lighty to instill some disapline,
What can be about it,
How else can we keep kids inline,just asking them not to won't always work.

I'd beat FMS for some of the ignorant and offensive things he's said. That being said I probably wouldn't beat my own kids.


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post Apr 24 2006, 02:52 PM
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Forms of normal disciplinary acts:
  • spanking
  • timeout
  • punishing (from going outside, etc.)

Forms of abusive disciplinary acts:
  • burning with cigarrettes, scorching water, etc.
  • pushing a child down the stairs
  • sexually disciplining the child
  • throwing objects like knives, heavy sTuFfZ
  • creating lacerations or beating up
  • causing bone fractures
  • whapping with whips, electrical cords, bats, clubs, etc.
  • hitting a kid unconscious
Those are just a few. Spanking isn't bad, it's simply disciplining a child for a wrong that can't be solved, so the parents need to spank. Child abuse is a completely different thing, the intentional doing of inflicting injury to a child in order to relieve stress and hurt the child for no apparent reason, may be taken as disciplinary actions but is lawfully descriped as child abuse.
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post Apr 24 2006, 02:53 PM
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I just wanna play "Kick the baby"....wink.gif
Smacking is ok if the Smacker has common sense.Sadly this seems to be lacking in 90% of the world.

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This tends to be more about domination and the abuser assurting their suppirority on their victim rather than actual disciplin.


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post Apr 24 2006, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(popogeejo @ Apr 24 2006, 02:53 PM) [snapback]385544[/snapback]

I just wanna play "Kick the baby"....wink.gif
Smacking is ok if the Smacker has common sense.Sadly this seems to be lacking in 90% of the world.

blink.gif We have now identified popogeejo as a future child abuser.
Agreed. It's okay if the smacker is in control, but to inflict intentional harm on a child sexually, physically, emotionally and in neglect is confirmed as child abuse, smacking the buttoxs is fine if it is done disciplinarily. But intentional harm is child abuse, if a dad wanted to whip a child for nothing then it is lawed as physical child abuse. But child abuse can be a combination of two (like sexual and physical together), and that is sometimes the case.
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I believe in beating your children. When i say beatin i mean tearin that ass up. Taking off your belt, putting them on your knee, & hittin em in the ass with it. Or as some people call it spanking. My spanking tools would be a belt or a switch. If yall dont know what a switch is, its a branch of a tree, a real thin branch with all the leaves pulled off. My parents whooped me & i came out all right, so people whoop your children.


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