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I See Dead People (spoilers For The Movie), Did Any one else notice more parallel dead people?
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post Apr 5 2006, 05:14 AM
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Did anyone else notice parallel dead people in the movie. Most of them are all dead people from the series. Except Glacia, (who comically has softspot/crush on Ed). Anyone see any living parallel people other than her?

Hughes as a Nazi police officer or a nationalist socialist party member was the first obvious dead person. King Bradley as a Jewish film maker. Scar and lust in as a gypsy couple the end of the movie are obvious too.

Noa and Roze seem to be similar.

I noticed Alphonse Heinrich's rocket development team consisted of aaryan versions of the Lab5 special ops chimeras. The beast chimera, the dog samurai, the lizard thing. Makes you kinda wonder if Alphonse and Martyl have thing going on that world.

King Bradley had an assisstant that was a parallel Lyra

I want to say i saw a German Dr Shou Tucker in the hospital but could be my imagination.

Its sort of weird seeing hughes very humorless and racist. I mean the Hughes we all know and love has great dead pan humor, A great roll model and also sees the truth for himself. Although Hughes as a nazi socialist you can tell he cares about Ed's best interest when he warns him about the gypsies. But his strictness was something that was reminicent of Mustang. Which I hoped they'd ahve a parallel Mustang becuase hughes and mustang have friendship that very unique and it'd be nice to see the rolls reversed, Maybe a jestful and light hearted Colonel Mustang talking about his baby with Hawkeye all the time.

I was happy to see the elusions to Scar and lust together. It confirms what I've always felt from the series but never flat out told to me in the dialogue. I mean Scar loved the person Lust was based on and Lust had difficulty expressing how she was flattered that he protected her.
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post Apr 5 2006, 05:54 AM
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I think we all [who have seen the movie] noticed that, I thought Hughes was alive again but did you notice how almost every of those characters has oposite personality over the gate. Hughes was good but over the gate he's evil... unsure.gif


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post Apr 5 2006, 06:14 AM
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Hughes wasn't evil,he's just going along with the social norms.most people hated the Gypsies.In the end Hughes did good though.


When did Garcia have a softspot for Ed?I thought she was just being motherly to them,letting them stay above her shop.


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post Apr 5 2006, 07:11 AM
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Is the movie in English? sorry but i just got into the series just like 2 weeks ago (but i saw all the epps! Just saw the last one yesterday!) anyway any word would be helpful!


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post Apr 5 2006, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE(CsSxPlay3r @ Apr 5 2006, 06:56 AM) [snapback]374905[/snapback]

Is the movie in English? sorry but i just got into the series just like 2 weeks ago (but i saw all the epps! Just saw the last one yesterday!) anyway any word would be helpful!


Welcome! I don't think it is yet, should be soon....
But there is movie with english sub though...



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post Apr 5 2006, 07:37 AM
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Thx for the welcome smile.gif!

And thx for telling me...i just finshed the series yesterday nad im really sad...lol because i want them to continue to make more...


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QUOTE(CsSxPlay3r @ Apr 5 2006, 07:22 AM) [snapback]374920[/snapback]

Thx for the welcome smile.gif!

And thx for telling me...i just finshed the series yesterday nad im really sad...lol because i want them to continue to make more...


We all do unsure.gif . But still if you didn't see there is FMA OVA [Original Video Animation] and Manga.


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Hughes wasn't evil,he's just going along with the social norms.most people hated the Gypsies.In the end Hughes did good though.


Real Hughes wouldn't do that ;~;


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post Apr 5 2006, 12:27 PM
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@marktse - Welcome to our board!! smile.gif

All FMA "Shambara" movie discussions are done in our FMA movie sub-forum, so that we don't spoil ones who hasn't seen the movie yet. (Including this discussion, I believe.)

And, we have a forum full of various threads on the FMA movie there, such as this Movie summary thread where we already have discussions on AlterHoughes, and AlterAl and AlterBradley, and Rose, and much more, and this Fma Movie Thoughts thread.
I think you can post your opinion on any of those threads and continue the discussion there. smile.gif


(ETA: Thank you Mod-sama for moving this thread to Movie forum!! happy.gif)



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post Apr 5 2006, 01:59 PM
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Thanks for welcoming me.

I don't think Hughes was evil. He was actually looking out for ed. He warned him about gypsies cuase he was concerned. He was sort of blinded by ideals of the socialist party and thats out of character becuase Hughes is normally anaytical and lighthearted. BUt he was really trying to do good. Also many Nazi's weren;t evil. They just were taught to hate but they're people too and thats someting FMA tried to dispell. People are different, but its okay. Just because Ishbalan's have red eyes it made him alittle scared. Fear leads to heatred. (Geez I sound like Yoda here.) Hatred leads to evil acts. Hughes more or less tried to protect Ed and keep him away from the Nazi party. It'd be nice to see him loosen up and be more light hearted after Glacia takes a liking to him. Or maybe see a lighthearted mustang talk about his children with Hawkeye ^_~

As far as Glacia having a softspot for Ed, I think in the Japanese translation Glacia says something like do I really remind you of your mother? or maybe girlfriend? and Ed smiles and says nah, nothing like that. Then later when he had seen Hughes, Hughes was like you ought to consider not living with a Gypsy, think of poor Glacia. and Ed goes why don't you confess to Glacia yourself how you feel?
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Actually, I'm pretty confident that Mabuse is not a parallel of King Bradley, per se, but a parallel of the man Bradley was based off of.


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after watching the movie like 5 times, i noticed some people in the beginning at the carnival thing, hanging out with the rocket thing, and they looked lil the ppl from devil's nest. biggrin.gif


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Yah, I noticed the Rose-Noa thing as soon as we see her in the wagon with the cloak (it looked like Rose's 'holy mother' attire) and I did notice the chimeras-rocket workers thing. Also an obvious one was at the end we see scar and lust as normal people in the wagon, and ed and al are like *omg* :3


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I still refuse to belive that Noah is Alter-Rose. They don't look alike and don't act the same way.


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QUOTE(popogeejo @ May 13 2006, 01:21 PM) [snapback]394692[/snapback]

I still refuse to belive that Noah is Alter-Rose. They don't look alike and don't act the same way.



Well, an alter ego isn't supposed to act the same but...

I agree with you, I thought so in the beginning of the movie but not anymore.


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QUOTE(Nepharski @ Apr 8 2006, 11:46 PM) [snapback]376613[/snapback]
Actually, I'm pretty confident that Mabuse is not a parallel of King Bradley, per se, but a parallel of the man Bradley was based off of.
I agree that that is probably more accurate way of seeing it. smile.gif

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I still refuse to belive that Noah is Alter-Rose. They don't look alike and don't act the same way.
I know what you mean. I watched the movie, and didnot realize Noah is supposedly Alter!Rose untill I read the posts by others stating that.


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