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Rose And Ed In Episode 49, Spoiler Alart!!
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post Feb 19 2007, 10:28 PM
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post Jun 29 2007, 01:31 PM
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I am a very huge Ed/Rose fan (IMO, the pink-haired protagonist is one of the most under-appreciated characters in the show). Ed willingly danced with Rose, as if he thought he would enjoy it. It's strange that Ed was taken by surprise when Rose said it, but when Lyra/Dante said it, he didn't object. It's more than likely that Rose sees Ed as a protector, a savior, and a father figure for her son (traits that women usually see in their ideal lovers). I read in a different thread that it's possible that Lyra had Rose drugged or sedated during the whole ordeal. I feel it's possible that Lyra figured something was going on between the two, and used Rose's feelings to manipulate her. Even had it been mere infatuation, Lyra still could've used that to make Rose confused. Also, remember that when [spoiler]Al used the Philosopher's Stone to revive Ed[/spoiler], Rose stayed behind to wait for Ed to wake up, while Lyra went off. She's also the last person he talked to before he [spoiler]went into the Gate to look for Al[/spoiler], and there could've been some interaction between them that the cameras didn't show. Maybe she gave him a kiss before she left and took Wrath with her.
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post Oct 27 2007, 10:09 PM
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Ed willingly danced with Rose, as if he thought he would enjoy it. It's strange that Ed was taken by surprise when Rose said it, but when Lyra/Dante said it, he didn't object. It's more than likely that Rose sees Ed as a protector, a savior, and a father figure for her son (traits that women usually see in their ideal lovers). I read in a different thread that it's possible that Lyra had Rose drugged or sedated during the whole ordeal. I feel it's possible that Lyra figured something was going on between the two, and used Rose's feelings to manipulate her. Even had it been mere infatuation, Lyra still could've used that to make Rose confused. Also, remember that when Al used the Philosopher's Stone to revive Ed, Rose stayed behind to wait for Ed to wake up, while Lyra went off. She's also the last person he talked to before he went into the Gate to look for Al, and there could've been some interaction between them that the cameras didn't show. Maybe she gave him a kiss before she left and took Wrath with her.


Hmm... dry.gif I have a few things to say about this.

Yes, I'm an EdWin fan. Yes, Rose is not really one of my favorite characters in either the manga or anime. But know that this is a rational attempt to counter everything said above, not a psychoactive one.

First of all, the "Ed willingly danced with Rose part":

I didn't really get the impression that Ed danced with her because he thought he would enjoy it. When I saw Ed dance with Rose, his facial expressions all told me that he was thinking, "What the heck??" My thought is that he danced with Rose sorta out of confusion, because a lot was happening at the time (Al getting kidnapped again, military going psycho, you know that kind of stuff). Also, he was probably trying to use that moment to see what was going on with her, because even from afar he could tell that something was wrong.

Second, the "Lyra took advantage of Rose's feelings" part:

Hmm...I must admit that I am pretty doubtful if Rose has feelings for Ed. Sure, she does look to him as a sort of protector, but I think that's about it when it comes to feelings and nothing more. This is further emboldened by one little-bitty part in the movie where she tells Al, "Don't you see, Al? Ed's never coming back." or something along those lines. Compared to Winry, this lack of faith constituted to me that whatever feelings she did have for him wasn't really love.

Third, the "Maybe Rose gave him a kiss or something before she left" part:

huh.gif Are you sure?? A kiss at that moment seems totally out of place, and...it just doesn't seem to fit there. Also, since when has Edward Elric kissed a girl? mellow.gif

That is all.
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post Oct 28 2007, 06:51 AM
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The things that 'maybe' happened when the 'camera' wasn't looking are fangirl wishes. I could say, for example, after Winry braids Ed's hair they had some quick loving as Pinako had gone downstairs and Al can't see anything cause he's in a statue.

I have to agree, I don't think Ed really wanted to dance. Rose probably approched him and knowing there had to be something wrong (but also being really confused) he danced with her. He pushed away from her after all once he smelt a rat.


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post Oct 28 2007, 10:10 AM
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QUOTE(spectre_vampire @ Jun 29 2007, 03:31 PM) *
I am a very huge Ed/Rose fan (IMO, the pink-haired protagonist is one of the most under-appreciated characters in the show). Ed willingly danced with Rose, as if he thought he would enjoy it.

Actually I think you're wrong there. When Ed entered the area where Rose was and she was just dancing and drifting along by herself, he could definitely tell something wasn't right about her. I think he joined in on dancing with her because he was confused and wanted to get down to the bottom line of what happened.

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It's strange that Ed was taken by surprise when Rose said it, but when Lyra/Dante said it, he didn't object. It's more than likely that Rose sees Ed as a protector, a savior, and a father figure for her son (traits that women usually see in their ideal lovers).
Ed was taken by surprise because he could tell that Rose was under some kind of spell and didn't realize what she was saying to him. It's obvious that he does NOT view her as a lover because he pushed away from her saying that all they were were friends. I'm sure Rose did see Ed as a protector, but he also told her not to count on him to protect her and her people. I don't see how she saw Edward as a father figure to her son just because he caught her baby from thrown to eminent death.

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I read in a different thread that it's possible that Lyra had Rose drugged or sedated during the whole ordeal. I feel it's possible that Lyra figured something was going on between the two, and used Rose's feelings to manipulate her. Even had it been mere infatuation, Lyra still could've used that to make Rose confused. Also, remember that when Al used the Philosopher's Stone to revive Ed, Rose stayed behind to wait for Ed to wake up, while Lyra went off. She's also the last person he talked to before he went into the Gate to look for Al, and there could've been some interaction between them that the cameras didn't show. Maybe she gave him a kiss before she left and took Wrath with her.

Yeah, Lyra/Dante did have Rose under some kind of spell, but in truth I think Dante was so desperate to be with Hohenhiem that she would have used one his sons to her own advantage. Rose didn't have a clue as to what was going on and she ran away from Edward once she heard her baby crying. Yes, Rose did stay behind, but you're living in a fangirl's dream here. It's no different than the EdxWin shippers saying that from episode 23 when Ed was in the hospital, Ed and Win could have been getting their naughty freak on in the hospital room before going to fix Al or in Episode 26 after Winry was finished tending to his automail they had a little make out session and just like Chiyo said about episode 45 when Winry braids his hair, they all could have went out of the room and Ed and Win could have gotten their freak on there as well. Besides that, why would Ed kiss Rose while they were down there when he was already distraught over Al being gone and preoccupied with bringing him back? Like I said, I think you're just fantasizing.


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post Feb 11 2008, 04:44 PM
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Hmm.....i have to say, i do agree that Edward danced with Rose willingly. Granted she may have induced it, but still, Edward seemed, despite being taken aback, to be enjoying it. And just because Edward has had his sight set on other things doesn't mean that he cant have some sort of feelings for Rose. Remember, he's a sixteen year old boy. I like Rose, and i think she's a wonderful character. But i think how she has seen Edward recently, how he inspired her to move on from Kane and how protective he's been of her has clouded her head, and she seems to be following her heart.

But then again, her being all drugged up thanks to Dante could be considered a major factor in it. It could be affecting the way she thinks and amplifying her feelings for Edward from a simple crush and admiration to thoughts of love. Rose sees Edward as someone who can take care of her and her baby. I kinda wish Edward was able to come back to his world, you never know, Dante's drug may have re-opened Rose's ability to love again, and her small infatuation could turn into something more. It would be nice to see Edward end up happy with someone, he deserves it after everything he's been through, but alas, we shall never know. Still, i like to think he's ended up with the Winry in the London world ^^ Winry after all does love him more than anything, and it took some amount of bravery to let him go like that. But, as was said, its all just fantasies ^^


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nooooo!! EdxRose is evil!! :ph34r:
If it was a well developped relationship then I probably wouldn't hate it that much but... it's just coming out of nowhere!


i agree EdxRose is evil EdxWinry is the best :)
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Lols, found this thread on Google.

Just recently rewatched FMA with my husband, just finished last few episodes last night. Well, I rewatched it with an objective view and I think that while Winry loves him and he loves Winry, it is quite honestly something that could go either way (say Winry found someone else, I believe she would still have some feelings for Ed and vice versa, but that they could deal with being like sister/brother) Alphonse also loves Winry too and while they don't have the same chemistry it could've always ended up Alphonse x Winry if Ed wasn't in the picture.

I also do believe he was infatuated with Rose a bit as well, and she with him, as Dante pretty much mentioned. Nai-chan pretty much summed it up though- we will never know if and who he ended up with.

Un-objectively, I support Rose x Edward which is unusual for me because usually I'm a rabid fangirl of the main couples. I guess it's because Rose was the first girl I saw and for whatever reason I felt that Ed showed all the signs of liking her. They did not have much time together but did develop a bond quickly.


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Me? I thought that the fangirls got in it somehow and it wouldn't surprise me if Rose was Sakura in disguise. wink.gif coughcoughpinkhaircough. When I saw Rose DANCING with Ed, I was like, huh? That girl looks like she's braindead (although she has good excuse to be). She must be controlled be someone or something, or hypnotized. Therefore I did not take the hints of RoseXEd very seriously. My first impressions on how Dante paired them up was that she was completely mistaken. As simple as that. Besides, Ed is one of the most bachelor-like characters I've seen on anime. His chances of romance just aren't that strong.


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