And yes, it's worse than what it seems. And it's supposed to be a "live" and "action" OVA.
Gahaha!! Reika!! (At the begining of the movie, it says, "Live action!!" then it turns to different letter that's saying... "is it??" XDDD ...it's a clever pan in Japanese language, and it's also sort of foretelling viewers that this is a gag movie... )
Live action OVA is a joke, a gag. Really. Don't take me wrong, I ENJOYED it. I laughed all through!! Luckily, I read the comment by the director, and knew it was "playful" piece beforehand, and not to be taken seriously, so I didn't have high expectations to begin with for this piece. And, as a gag, it's really funny. Granted, it's hard to believe that its's from the same people that made FMA movie!! It looks more like some amatures made it with couple of hundred dollor budget. XDDD But, it's funny. It has all the serious FMA music and narration, but visually it's a gag, and I enjoyed the silliness of it very much!!
But, we are digressing... For all the new FMA OVA info and discussions on all of four OVA pieces, please join this New FMA OVA thread.
Now, please resume FMA "Shambara" movie discussions...
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@ Reika: OMG that sounds really really really bad!
Back on topic: I'm rewachting Shambala now, and for some odd reason, it doesn't seem as bad the second time. Can't really put my finger on it, perhaps it's growing on me. * only just noticed Ed's grown LOL about time he gained some height!
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you know, just on a sorta random note about the movie, the things that greatly saddened me was how ed and al are now stuck in this random world (well actually, it's not really random) and can't even use alchemy. it's like, what happened to fullmetal alchemist? alchemy, the whole understanding, deconstructing, and reconstructing process on which both ed and al worked so hard to master and become such an important part of their life is now useless to them. and ed worked so hard to become a state alchemist and he did so many things with alchemy and now it's all gooooneee!!! NOOOOO!!! it's like, such a waste of their existence. they were meant for so much more!!
and i actually do feel rather sad that all the evil homonculi and hohenheim and dante and gone too. it makes things a little too peaceful and boring. well, peace is good, but it's so eventless.
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I liked the movie, but was unhappy with the way it ended. I dun know...I also didnt like how there was a lack of romance. I suppose I'm just too used to things like fruits basket and love hina lol.
oh. and people want a fansubbed version? I like this one but beware, near the end (when Ed's plane crashes <--if you've seen the movie you'll know what I mean) the subtitles start repeating the previous scene, but it corrects itself later on. so it's not that big a problem. there are some typos, but it's better than the official subbing lol.
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happy for the brothers as they end up together after being seperated (such a sweet brotherhood-ly bond... sobs...) sad as there is no "clear/defined" ending for Roy and Riza... the movie is moving as fast as shinkansen yet it covered all important points of the story, yet a little too short. if other characters' ending were included (im referirng to Roy and Riza here), i think it would be muchXXX better
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The problem showed in the begining of the anime ..... is.....resoluted when the movie ends . Al got his body back, AL and Ed are together. For the anime we can't expect any more than that. The anime is focus in Ed and Ed since the begining to the end has got an only one thing in mind : recover Al's body, he never said he want to return "home" (well, he burnt it). He said he would do even the impossible to get his brother's body, not matter the cost. The movie isn't focus in the characters and at the same time it is. The character ( in the anime, of course) are only two: Ed and Al. All that happens in the movie brings them to their metting, and all what happens, blablabla..........The other characters are only, secondary, minor..... The end, is happy: our "characters" get what they want, they catch their dream..... and they are also together to face the future. Of course, Ed wants to be in his world -hagaren- ( haven't you read the letters he and al write to the others; pinako, winry, roy) ..... but it seems he would never try to return, maybe because he thinks he would bring to much problems.........
Despite telling you all that, I don't like the movie to much. But it's like the anime. The movie suits the anime, they "go together........
That's my opinion.
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Thoughts from a filmmaker... (my degree has to come in useful somewhere...right?)
Random FMA Movie Thoughts: *spoilers*
So in addition to all the work I've been doing the last few days, I've spent some time tracking down rumors of a second FMA movie (thanks guys!)... of which there seems to be none planned. "Officially" the director of both the anime and movie has said he will not direct anymore FMA anime, so... that doesn't necessarily mean the concept is out, only that if anything ever pops up, it would likely be directed by someone else. Now, maybe they use the manga as inspiration (since midway through the two diverged in story/characters), but, well, while the manga moves on, the anime seems it might very well have ended.
About the movie, more closely...
And to be honest, that leaves a little empty spot in my heart because I enjoyed it SO much, and I'm such an audio/visual person, that while I am enjoying the manga, and am happy it's going to continue for awhile yet, it's still not the same thing, and I sort of feel that now, having read the manga, I can see part of the anime director's emphasis on the story, and.... it fascinates me.
See, I saw the end of the FMA series and I was ... very disheartened. I mean, yes, it was sweet the two of them were alive and human, but I felt so CHEATED. I firmly believed the two of them would have been happier together: even with Alphonse as a suit of armor. And it just ...arg. It felt so unsatisfying.
Then I watched the FMA movie (read: watched the horrible fan subs by various translators a few times before I finally, REALLY understood what was going on, and what people were saying). And you know, from what I can tell about 80% of fans HATE the movie. Like, outright hate. And part of me used to be that way (mainly because the whole London/Munich subplot was so "WTF?" at the end of the series, and in the movie of course), but.... these last few days particularly I've been thinking about it, and while the storyteller in me still wants to see some loose ends ties up (Roy/Riza, The "Uranium Bomb" etc.), I think I have a new appreciation for the ending.
See. For me it felt "GOOD" the boys were together again. Undoubtedly I was MUCH happier with that ending than the series' ending, but I realized the other night that it was not a "perfect" ending. That's what my mind wanted: it wanted the "perfect" ending. The "we are wrapped up in a tiny bow and everything is wonderful now!" ending.... and that's not FMA. Bad people die. Good people die. Everything comes with a price. The world is imperfect.
THAT is why the ending fits. I mean, it sucks where they are, and that Ed still has his auto-mail, but _BUT_ the arc of brotherly love has been completed. And THAT is what the anime was about from the start! No: not Winry, not "mother," not anything like that, but sacrifice, true sacrifice and the amazingly strong bond between two brothers. And that is exactly what the end of the movie showcased. The two of them had to pay a price for all that's happened.
And they did! And THAT is why it can't be wrapped up in a pretty bow! They can no longer go home (at least... assuming the Colonel put the other side of the gate down, and even then... details details...), but even when they had a resemblence of a "home," it's not as if they went there often anyways. No: being around eachother is the key. That is the great, big, lesson in all of this. That all along they were searching to revive their mother, and to help themselves, and in the end all that matters is eachother.
...isn't that just amazing? I mean, after all that, that IS an ending. That is such an amazingly heartening, beautiful thing, that it brings me to tears! (And mind you, I'm glad Alphonse got his body back. Poor boy deserved it, but if they BOTH came out entirely human and back in their home world...doesn't that seem the faintest bit contrived? Doesn't it seem like unequal trade?).
Or, to think of it another way: both brothers sacrifice themselves for the other (see: the last few episodes of the series), so even through that, by all accounts shouldn't one or both be dead? And instead we get to see them both alive, together? Isn't that an amazing journey, and wasn't it worth the cost? Just think of the journey they've gone on, and somehow, not only have they both matured, but they have finally sort of met in the middle with how they think/act (though that is more towards the end of the series than the film, admittedly).
So... it might not have been the way I would have told the story, but... it's a story that needs told, I feel. And that makes it even more powerful. It's tragic, but not at the same time. It's a different sort of "closure" than I'm accustomed to.
And I'm thankful for the journey the director has taken me on, because I feel more "awake" because of it.
The ending is not perfectly happy, since it is imperfect, but I "feel" it more now.
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^Yes, that's really true... that's just the way FMA is. A happy ending wouldn't really suit them. But in a way it is a happy ending don't you think? The brothers reunited and as Al said, they can go on another journey again. I think they'll do just fine with the support of each other.
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