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post Feb 4 2006, 08:03 PM
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I felt happy and sad, mostly because it had to end and also I felt like there was just something missing. I also hope they make another movie or more to the series but it's not likely to happen, and that is a whole new topic itself.


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post Jun 24 2006, 06:58 AM
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*spoilers*

Thoughts from a filmmaker... (my degree has to come in useful somewhere...right?)

Random FMA Movie Thoughts: *spoilers*

So in addition to all the work I've been doing the last few days, I've spent some time tracking down rumors of a second FMA movie (thanks guys!)... of which there seems to be none planned. "Officially" the director of both the anime and movie has said he will not direct anymore FMA anime, so... that doesn't necessarily mean the concept is out, only that if anything ever pops up, it would likely be directed by someone else. Now, maybe they use the manga as inspiration (since midway through the two diverged in story/characters), but, well, while the manga moves on, the anime seems it might very well have ended.

About the movie, more closely...

And to be honest, that leaves a little empty spot in my heart because I enjoyed it SO much, and I'm such an audio/visual person, that while I am enjoying the manga, and am happy it's going to continue for awhile yet, it's still not the same thing, and I sort of feel that now, having read the manga, I can see part of the anime director's emphasis on the story, and.... it fascinates me.

See, I saw the end of the FMA series and I was ... very disheartened.  I mean, yes, it was sweet the two of them were alive and human, but I felt so CHEATED. I firmly believed the two of them would have been happier together: even with Alphonse as a suit of armor.  And it just ...arg. It felt so unsatisfying.

Then I watched the FMA movie (read: watched the horrible fan subs by various translators a few times before I finally, REALLY understood what was going on, and what people were saying).   And you know, from what I can tell about 80% of fans HATE the movie. Like, outright hate.  And part of me used to be that way (mainly because the whole London/Munich subplot was so "WTF?" at the end of the series, and in the movie of course), but.... these last few days particularly I've been thinking about it, and while the storyteller in me still wants to see some loose ends ties up (Roy/Riza, The "Uranium Bomb" etc.), I think I have a new appreciation for the ending.

See.  For me it felt "GOOD" the boys were together again. Undoubtedly I was MUCH happier with that ending than the series' ending, but I realized the other night that it was not a "perfect" ending.  That's what my mind wanted: it wanted the "perfect" ending. The "we are wrapped up in a tiny bow and everything is wonderful now!" ending.... and that's not FMA. Bad people die.  Good people die. Everything comes with a price. The world is imperfect.

THAT is why the ending fits.  I mean, it sucks where they are, and that Ed still has his auto-mail, but _BUT_ the arc of brotherly love has been completed. And THAT is what the anime was about from the start! No: not Winry, not "mother," not anything like that, but sacrifice, true sacrifice and the amazingly strong bond between two brothers. And that is exactly what the end of the movie showcased. The two of them had to pay a price for all that's happened.

And they did! And THAT is why it can't be wrapped up in a pretty bow! They can no longer go home (at least... assuming the Colonel put the other side of the gate down, and even then... details details...), but even when they had a resemblence of a "home," it's not as if they went there often anyways. No: being around eachother is the key. That is the great, big, lesson in all of this. That all along they were searching to revive their mother, and to help themselves, and in the end all that matters is eachother.

...isn't that just amazing? I mean, after all that, that IS an ending. That is such an amazingly heartening, beautiful thing, that it brings me to tears! (And mind you, I'm glad Alphonse got his body back. Poor boy deserved it, but if they BOTH came out entirely human and back in their home world...doesn't that seem the faintest bit contrived? Doesn't it seem like unequal trade?).

Or, to think of it another way: both brothers sacrifice themselves for the other (see: the last few episodes of the series), so even through that, by all accounts shouldn't one or both be dead? And instead we get to see them both alive, together? Isn't that an amazing journey, and wasn't it worth the cost? Just think of the journey they've gone on, and somehow, not only have they both matured, but they have finally sort of met in the middle with how they think/act (though that is more towards the end of the series than the film, admittedly).

So... it might not have been the way I would have told the story, but... it's a story that needs told, I feel. And that makes it even more powerful. It's tragic, but not at the same time. It's a different sort of "closure" than I'm accustomed to.

And I'm thankful for the journey the director has taken me on, because I feel more "awake" because of it.

The ending is not perfectly happy, since it is imperfect, but I "feel" it more now.


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QUOTE(The Regal Tigress @ Jun 24 2006, 06:58 AM) [snapback]415636[/snapback]

*spoilers*

Thoughts from a filmmaker... (my degree has to come in useful somewhere...right?)

Random FMA Movie Thoughts: *spoilers*

So in addition to all the work I've been doing the last few days, I've spent some time tracking down rumors of a second FMA movie (thanks guys!)... of which there seems to be none planned. "Officially" the director of both the anime and movie has said he will not direct anymore FMA anime, so... that doesn't necessarily mean the concept is out, only that if anything ever pops up, it would likely be directed by someone else. Now, maybe they use the manga as inspiration (since midway through the two diverged in story/characters), but, well, while the manga moves on, the anime seems it might very well have ended.

About the movie, more closely...

And to be honest, that leaves a little empty spot in my heart because I enjoyed it SO much, and I'm such an audio/visual person, that while I am enjoying the manga, and am happy it's going to continue for awhile yet, it's still not the same thing, and I sort of feel that now, having read the manga, I can see part of the anime director's emphasis on the story, and.... it fascinates me.

See, I saw the end of the FMA series and I was ... very disheartened. I mean, yes, it was sweet the two of them were alive and human, but I felt so CHEATED. I firmly believed the two of them would have been happier together: even with Alphonse as a suit of armor. And it just ...arg. It felt so unsatisfying.

Then I watched the FMA movie (read: watched the horrible fan subs by various translators a few times before I finally, REALLY understood what was going on, and what people were saying). And you know, from what I can tell about 80% of fans HATE the movie. Like, outright hate. And part of me used to be that way (mainly because the whole London/Munich subplot was so "WTF?" at the end of the series, and in the movie of course), but.... these last few days particularly I've been thinking about it, and while the storyteller in me still wants to see some loose ends ties up (Roy/Riza, The "Uranium Bomb" etc.), I think I have a new appreciation for the ending.

See. For me it felt "GOOD" the boys were together again. Undoubtedly I was MUCH happier with that ending than the series' ending, but I realized the other night that it was not a "perfect" ending. That's what my mind wanted: it wanted the "perfect" ending. The "we are wrapped up in a tiny bow and everything is wonderful now!" ending.... and that's not FMA. Bad people die. Good people die. Everything comes with a price. The world is imperfect.

THAT is why the ending fits. I mean, it sucks where they are, and that Ed still has his auto-mail, but _BUT_ the arc of brotherly love has been completed. And THAT is what the anime was about from the start! No: not Winry, not "mother," not anything like that, but sacrifice, true sacrifice and the amazingly strong bond between two brothers. And that is exactly what the end of the movie showcased. The two of them had to pay a price for all that's happened.

And they did! And THAT is why it can't be wrapped up in a pretty bow! They can no longer go home (at least... assuming the Colonel put the other side of the gate down, and even then... details details...), but even when they had a resemblence of a "home," it's not as if they went there often anyways. No: being around eachother is the key. That is the great, big, lesson in all of this. That all along they were searching to revive their mother, and to help themselves, and in the end all that matters is eachother.

...isn't that just amazing? I mean, after all that, that IS an ending. That is such an amazingly heartening, beautiful thing, that it brings me to tears! (And mind you, I'm glad Alphonse got his body back. Poor boy deserved it, but if they BOTH came out entirely human and back in their home world...doesn't that seem the faintest bit contrived? Doesn't it seem like unequal trade?).

Or, to think of it another way: both brothers sacrifice themselves for the other (see: the last few episodes of the series), so even through that, by all accounts shouldn't one or both be dead? And instead we get to see them both alive, together? Isn't that an amazing journey, and wasn't it worth the cost? Just think of the journey they've gone on, and somehow, not only have they both matured, but they have finally sort of met in the middle with how they think/act (though that is more towards the end of the series than the film, admittedly).

So... it might not have been the way I would have told the story, but... it's a story that needs told, I feel. And that makes it even more powerful. It's tragic, but not at the same time. It's a different sort of "closure" than I'm accustomed to.

And I'm thankful for the journey the director has taken me on, because I feel more "awake" because of it.

The ending is not perfectly happy, since it is imperfect, but I "feel" it more now.


I certainly welcome thoughts from others. smile.gif

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I like the way you have put things and you are right, but here is what bothers me. I felt that, yes, the story is about the boys, but that other characters became truly important and they were not given time to shine or closure. I speak of Roy/Riza etc... I felt sad for Winry (the boys were part of her family). And even though they were stuck on the other side the second to last scene, Ed and Al are still going to try to find a way back, ("It will be harder without alchemy"), but then in the last scene Ed say, "this is our world...blablabla...it would be hard to detach ourselves from it... WTF! I didn't like that, I didn't like that he was happy in "our world", when he has so many people who love him and will miss him in his. That's what made me have a bad taste in my mouth at the end. That one line ruined it for me. I was saddened by the movie and I would have rather just made up my own ending from the way that the Anime ended, at least it was hopeful. I didn't feel that the movie had a hoepful ending.
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- FullMetal Shrimp   Your Opinions And Emotions After Watching The Cos Movie?   Feb 4 2006, 08:03 PM
- - SinLuxuria   Those who have seen the movie, rate it! Here,...   Feb 5 2006, 06:44 AM
- - armor-alchemist   I felt glad the way it ended, even if it wasn...   Feb 17 2006, 08:22 PM
- - Summoner Colette   Sadness Because Izumi died Disappointment, becaus...   Feb 18 2006, 10:38 AM
- - Winkle   I don't think it takes a genius to figure out ...   Feb 18 2006, 04:31 PM
- - Iloveu2Al   MY EMOTIONS WERE AND I WAS EXPECTING SOOOOO M...   Feb 18 2006, 06:02 PM
- - popogeejo   I never had high expectaions but I was plesently s...   Feb 20 2006, 01:12 PM
- - Hana no Kuroi   Oy...The movie was unexpected...To be clear, it wa...   Feb 22 2006, 09:24 AM
|- - Jedi28   QUOTE(Hana no Kuroi @ Feb 22 2006, 10:09 ...   Feb 22 2006, 02:38 PM
|- - Winkle   QUOTE(Jedi28 @ Feb 22 2006, 04:23 PM) 353...   Feb 22 2006, 05:14 PM
- - Mikage_Elric   I was really sad when Heiderich got killed. i was ...   Feb 22 2006, 04:48 PM
|- - HagaRen016   QUOTE(Mikage_Elric @ Feb 22 2006, 04:48 P...   Oct 14 2006, 10:59 PM
- - Jedi28   Yeah, because then you could have made up your own...   Feb 22 2006, 05:33 PM
- - Hana no Kuroi   XD That'd be interesting...But yeah, anyone kn...   Feb 22 2006, 06:38 PM
- - Jedi28   Nope, only the limited release version (or special...   Feb 22 2006, 07:31 PM
- - The Great Asparagus   i cried from both happiness and sadness. well i wa...   Mar 4 2006, 09:31 PM
|- - sachiko hyuuchi   QUOTE(The Great Asparagus @ Mar 5 2006, 12...   Jul 31 2006, 05:00 AM
|- - Culinary_Alchemist   OMG when Ed and Al were almost separated i was cry...   Aug 9 2006, 06:00 PM
|- - Mariel Dragon   I am very sad because Ed and Winry will never see ...   Jun 5 2007, 04:33 PM
- - MasterKris   I just cried out in emotion. I didn't really f...   Mar 4 2006, 09:38 PM
- - Francesca   I was happy because Ed and Al were together again ...   Mar 8 2006, 12:08 PM
- - Mr.Falman   First of all I was sad. The movie was not as good ...   Mar 10 2006, 01:31 PM
- - SuperElricBros   Oh hellz no... After watching the 50th ep last ni...   Mar 12 2006, 04:23 PM
- - Jedi28   What I didn't get was supposedly they're g...   Mar 12 2006, 06:17 PM
|- - FullMetal Shrimp   Hmmm... Actually, the thing I really think it was,...   Mar 19 2006, 07:33 PM
- - VnzlaKnight   I like The movie but the ending is bad, but of you...   Apr 5 2006, 07:42 AM
- - Chiyo-chan   i felt like i was unsettled, cuz it ended too sadl...   Apr 15 2006, 04:45 PM
- - Jelly_Belly   Ok...*reads title of thread* Well, personally, I h...   Apr 18 2006, 12:12 AM
- - Keoni   Well, I was like Jeeeej Movie! And as watche...   Apr 18 2006, 12:37 AM
- - Reika   I felt more disappointed than expected, decieved i...   Apr 18 2006, 02:49 AM
- - Bahamut Zero   i definitely didn't like the OAV at all. it wa...   Apr 18 2006, 03:23 AM
- - Jelly_Belly   Aaah! Evas so sad ... and Shinjis screaming vo...   Apr 18 2006, 03:42 AM
|- - I am the Only sister Elric   i was happy but sad because Hidrich died. I cried ...   Apr 19 2006, 05:19 PM
- - Reika   QUOTEWhat happens in the live action OVA? Appear...   Apr 20 2006, 01:27 AM
|- - I am the Only sister Elric   OVA? Did i miss something? Where is this "l...   Apr 20 2006, 09:29 AM
|- - Tombow   QUOTE(Reika @ Apr 20 2006, 03:12 AM) 3837...   Apr 22 2006, 01:11 AM
- - Reika   you can find it on youtube. There are 4, ant the 4...   Apr 22 2006, 12:50 AM
- - Reika   @Tombow: hahah thanks for the explanation XD (anyw...   Apr 23 2006, 01:42 AM
- - Keoni   @ Reika: OMG that sounds really really really bad...   Apr 23 2006, 10:29 AM
- - Toby-Chan   Ahem; "Waaaaaaaah! Lyke, ever'one d...   Apr 23 2006, 07:33 PM
- - The Great Asparagus   you know, just on a sorta random note about the mo...   Apr 29 2006, 07:44 PM
- - InsaneFangirl   Too many people died, Ed changed SOOO much, the wh...   May 4 2006, 01:34 PM
- - Kel   I liked the movie, but was unhappy with the way it...   May 13 2006, 01:00 PM
- - MeLRizA   happy for the brothers as they end up together aft...   May 13 2006, 01:12 PM
- - yoko0217   I was sad when Izumi died...   May 26 2006, 06:37 PM
- - paca   The problem showed in the begining of the anime .....   May 28 2006, 03:32 PM
- - Sashima   I'm just glad that they didn't go for the ...   Jun 18 2006, 06:18 PM
- - pickledevil   ^Yes, that's really true... that's just th...   Jul 10 2006, 12:55 AM
- - nihilist   The movie was good up until the ending. I mean it...   Aug 13 2006, 01:50 AM
- - Kynikos   I clicked "Happy yet sad because it wasn...   Aug 25 2006, 09:29 AM
- - gryphenix   Ok, let me reiterate this. This series was never ...   Aug 26 2006, 09:49 AM
- - aviazn   So what do you guys think of the movie after seein...   Aug 26 2006, 01:50 PM
- - r315razor   I loved the movie completly. What made it more sat...   Aug 26 2006, 10:48 PM
|- - nihilist   The ending wouldve been acceptable if they made up...   Aug 27 2006, 05:11 PM
- - Minna   I was sad. Really really das. I cried when the cre...   Aug 29 2006, 05:37 AM
- - Kivrin   The movie was great, but I was a little disappoint...   Aug 31 2006, 10:03 PM
- - Untitled   I liked it but it lacked.. It was too darn short ...   Sep 17 2006, 12:32 AM
- - InsaneFangirl   I was quite satisfied with the dub. ^^ The first f...   Sep 17 2006, 12:04 PM
- - Nicoli Flamel   The Regal Tigress, while I agree with what you sai...   Sep 25 2006, 07:06 AM
- - Durren the Ice Alchemist   i'm angry at 2 things 1. no alternate mustang ...   Sep 26 2006, 02:04 PM
- - Ana~Banana~bel   I liked the movie alot, but like most of you, i fe...   Sep 26 2006, 05:00 PM
- - Nicoli Flamel   @Ana~Banana~bel: I happen to agree with you on the...   Sep 27 2006, 09:03 AM
|- - Ana~Banana~bel   QUOTE(Nicoli Flamel @ Sep 27 2006, 12:03 ...   Sep 27 2006, 09:24 AM
- - Nicoli Flamel   I really hope they make another movie or series. I...   Sep 27 2006, 04:23 PM
|- - Darkjad   I had mixed feelings about the end of the anime, a...   Oct 14 2006, 11:52 PM
- - hisokaomi   And no alternate Ed... damn, why am I seeing 2 Al?...   Sep 29 2006, 12:56 AM
- - Nicoli Flamel   Simple, Alphonse H, was the Al of our world. The E...   Sep 29 2006, 05:45 PM
- - Truth behind all Truths   Alright I'm new to this, but the introduction ...   Oct 12 2006, 11:50 PM
- - DantElric   Somewhat happy, because Al managed to follow Ed. S...   Oct 17 2006, 04:31 AM
- - Matt C   well I like the FMA Movie cuz it made me think alo...   Oct 24 2006, 08:11 PM
- - Amol   I felt glad the way it ended, even if it wasn...   Oct 25 2006, 12:47 AM
- - Francesco Carter   I felt happy somewhat, but i didn't want it to...   Nov 11 2006, 01:24 PM
- - ~Wolven Alchemist~   I felt both happy and sad, and so I cried. Partly ...   Nov 13 2006, 06:59 AM
- - Mudkipblader   I felt kinda wierd after seeing the ending. When I...   Dec 21 2006, 06:09 AM
- - baKa-neKoh   After the last episode of FMA, I though "hey ...   Feb 16 2007, 11:06 PM
- - Arthur-F.Metal4life   man i was happy and sad cause it had to end like t...   Feb 18 2007, 03:57 AM
- - ArmouredSoul   I wasn't particularly happy on WHERE it endend...   Mar 17 2007, 12:28 PM
|- - Claudius   QUOTE(ArmouredSoul @ Mar 17 2007, 11:28 A...   Mar 18 2007, 04:47 AM
- - Alchemical   I was happy that they reunited, but I was very mad...   Mar 17 2007, 12:51 PM
- - Ting   I was kinda sad... id say diappointed... TT.TT no ...   Mar 18 2007, 05:38 AM
- - Chiisana   I was sad, because then it means that FMA animatio...   Mar 18 2007, 05:47 AM
- - Ratzenheich FMA Super fan   Very sad because it's so hard to say goodbye t...   Mar 18 2007, 09:53 AM
- - Super Casual   If they destroyed the gate on their side wouldn...   Mar 29 2007, 08:52 AM
- - LastExile   It's annoying the way the ended it because the...   Mar 29 2007, 01:36 PM
- - Little Washu   Great Movie! Stupid ending. Couldn't they ...   Mar 29 2007, 01:46 PM
- - Super Casual   I regret watching the movie. It messed up my life ...   Mar 29 2007, 02:03 PM
- - Nekokitty   I liked the movie and I didn't mind the ending...   Mar 29 2007, 02:28 PM
- - Fushigi Rockna   Eh. I wasn't as disappointed as I would've...   Mar 29 2007, 02:44 PM
- - SwiftFeather   It made me cry out of both happiness and sadness. ...   Jun 12 2007, 07:10 PM
- - Plasmajosh   SOME MILD SPOILERS WITHIN I've just finishe...   Jul 28 2007, 11:37 PM
- - MrsAlphonseElric   I was sad, but I was happy I was happy because t...   Aug 2 2007, 07:28 AM
- - piggy   the movie and the anime itself was great especiall...   Aug 15 2007, 08:05 PM
- - adriel   I felt good for the bros but it was sad, and I tho...   Aug 18 2007, 10:15 AM
- - Winter Phantom   I was happy for Ed and Al but sad since they left ...   Aug 18 2007, 10:19 AM
- - saponin   im happy for ed & al getting together again, b...   Aug 19 2007, 02:25 AM
- - Causmicfire   I'd have to say I'm not happy at all with ...   Aug 21 2007, 06:45 PM
- - Chibi_Girl29   Happy yet sad because it wasn't a happy ending...   Aug 25 2007, 02:57 AM
- - Caribe   QUOTE(Chibi_Girl29 @ Aug 25 2007, 02:57 A...   Sep 7 2007, 05:45 PM
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