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Ed And Noah In The Movie
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post Apr 30 2006, 01:22 PM
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I wasn't reffering to you but to everyone who thinks Noah is alter Rose.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:24 PM
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Yeah, Chi. You're perfectly right about their characters being similar. And, by the way, that also gives more clues that Noah is Alter!Rose. What about Al H. and Al E.? They are also different physically, just so you know.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:26 PM
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That is true...we know Al E and Al H are meant to be each others equivilants but they don't look that much alike.

Ah, and I didn't realise Al said that in the ova...how cute.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:29 PM
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What about Al H. and Al E.? They are also different physically, just so you know.


AH had the notable advantage of ageing moe the Al did.Remember that Al lost 3 years of Growth. He's a Sixteen year old in a 14 year olds body.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(popogeejo @ Apr 30 2006, 09:29 PM) [snapback]388353[/snapback]

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What about Al H. and Al E.? They are also different physically, just so you know.


AH had the notable advantage of ageing moe the Al did.Remember that Al lost 3 years of Growth. He's a Sixteen year old in a 14 year olds body.


He also has white blonde hair and blue eyes which Al E would never have got even with age.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:38 PM
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Correction: A seventeen year-old in a recently thirteen year-old body...I don't know if I should buy that argument since Eckart, who seems to be Alter!PSiren, is slightly different physically also...And since you're bringing out the age argument, do we even know how old Roze and Noah are, huh? Maybe Noah is older than Roze and represents what she'll look like later. And don't bring out the name argument, because Alter!Bradley wasn't called Bradley.


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post Apr 30 2006, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(Ailuro @ Apr 30 2006, 09:44 PM) [snapback]388324[/snapback]

Aw, what's with all the Noa hate? I think she's a great character. sad.gif

Yeah, me too ^^

And with the 'she betrayed Ed' thing: I don't think she had much choice. If she wouldn't cooperate, she would've been captured. I really don't think they would say something like: 'Oh you don't want to? That's ok, we'll look for someone else.' You could clearly see that she wasn't friends with them.


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Everyone elses alter form looked identicle to their counter parts: Graica, Hughes, Pride, Scar, Lust and Lyra.
Al would look like Alphonse if he aged.(Appart from the eyes.Hair colour can change slighly as people age)
Rose and Noah would have to be the same age other wise they aren't the same person. Noah and Rose are similar but aren't alter's of eachother....
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QUOTE(Galorfilinde @ Apr 30 2006, 09:39 PM) [snapback]388366[/snapback]

And with the 'she betrayed Ed' thing: I don't think she had much choice. If she wouldn't cooperate, she would've been captured. I really don't think they would say something like: 'Oh you don't want to? That's ok, we'll look for someone else.' You could clearly see that she wasn't friends with them.


She knew that Ed was the only way to get to Shambala. That is where she wanted to go and was it really that hard for her to make up a lie and escape?


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I doubt Al's hair colour is gonna change, and it doesn't change the fact that his eye coulour is different, since you're bringing out that those from Amestris and their alters are identical. Hughes is dead while his alter isn't, same for alter!Lyra, alter!Bradley, and many other alters too (like Alter!Dorochet and alter!Loa who are different physically also). Some characters aren't even born yet, like Elysia, so I do think the age difference is possible.

And alter!Lust looked very different from Scar's brother's girlfriend, IMO.


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I agree. And remember that there are subtle pallette variations for our world as opposed to 'alchemyland' in all objects; not only characters. Everything looks more dull and washed out, thus the less redness of the skin tone.

Aside from that, there are obviously traits evident in their world that can't exist in our world; thus alter Scar had brown eyes and brown hair, just as would be common for a man of Rohm descent. And as an Aryan man, Alfons Heidelrich has silver-blonde hair and blue eyes, while Al's hair is golden (Sometimes sandy or ginger-looking) and has rather mossy green-brown eyes. They are still alters, even with the apparent unshareable features.

I could see some of Rose in Noa; though Noa has a more mature facial structure and body type. There's also the lip color that might throw some people off. (surprising; it's such a small thing) Since Noa has dark lipstick and Rose has the standard non-lipped anime mouth.

On a personal level, they are both confused, rather sad and rejected young women who are also in touch with their spirituality more than most of those around them.


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Hughes is dead while is alter isn't, same for alter!Lyra, alter!Bradley, and many other alters too (like Alter!Dorochet and alter!Loa who are different physically also)


[spoiler]Just becaus ethe alter form dies doesn't mean the other will hence Al doesn't die when Hydrich does.[/spoiler]


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*facepalm* That's what I meant so why are you re-forming a part of my post?

Some can have different fates, physical features, etc, that's why Noah being alter!Roze is very much possible.


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Why don't I remember alter Lust in there? huh.gif


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Well, when I first saw alter!Lust (Roma, I think) in a magazine, if it hadn't been mentioned in her bio, I would have never guessed it was her alter...She's part of the gypsies Ed and Al first meet after their car crashed, the one with the curly hair, I think.


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