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Ed And Roy's Relationship: The Conclusion
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post Nov 30 2005, 07:49 PM
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How do you think Ed's relationship with Roy reads out at the end of the series? (Even at the end of the series, there's stuff left to interpret; I don't know what, exactly, happens between them in the movie)
I don't think Ed really hates Roy, but I don't think it's the "omg i luv u lets cuddle" type love or that Ed would consider Roy a father-figure--a scenerio a lot of fanfic writers seem to support. I'd like to think Ed matures enough to appreciate Roy, but their external attitudes torwards each other wouldn't change.
Taking aside what Happens at the end of the series (the big, life changing things,) and looking only at the characters, fics where Ed and Roy get married, have children, it's impossible without a hell of a lot of explaining, character development, etc. Even a "Ed's just hiding his real feelings throughout the entire series" card isn't really plausible in such fics where Ed is shamelessly snogging Roy in public. OOC, any way you slice it.
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post Nov 30 2005, 11:30 PM
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QUOTE(vfdj42 @ Nov 30 2005, 07:34 PM) [snapback]322255[/snapback]

How do you think Ed's relationship with Roy reads out at the end of the series? (Even at the end of the series, there's stuff left to interpret; I don't know what, exactly, happens between them in the movie)
I don't think Ed really hates Roy, but I don't think it's the "omg i luv u lets cuddle" type love or that Ed would consider Roy a father-figure--a scenerio a lot of fanfic writers seem to support. I'd like to think Ed matures enough to appreciate Roy, but their external attitudes torwards each other wouldn't change.
Taking aside what Happens at the end of the series (the big, life changing things,) and looking only at the characters, fics where Ed and Roy get married, have children, it's impossible without a hell of a lot of explaining, character development, etc. Even a "Ed's just hiding his real feelings throughout the entire series" card isn't really plausible in such fics where Ed is shamelessly snogging Roy in public. OOC, any way you slice it.


amen...

plus, let's take into account the fact that roy is 29 and ed is 15...that's a 14 year age difference...married and have kids? i don't think so...

its definitely the father/son relationship type...ed never really had much of a father figure in his life since hohenheim left the family when he was so young...then he grew up with winry and pinako then later trained with izumi...

roy mustang's definitely their "military father"...he does care about ed...he didn't want to tell ed about hughs' death for the reasons parents tell us "your hamster went to summer camp"...okay so ed doesn't seem to get along with him very well...tell me this: how many of you get along perfectly well with your parents? plus, whenever ed needed a push or nudge, wasn't mustang always there to give it to him (if not winry)?

now as for the movie....
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roy was all emo because he was afraid that ed might be dead, yet he still believed he was alive somewhere out there. even his ex-subordinates figured he was waiting for ed...and not for riza (royai fans like me are now disappointed)... and when al left to join his brother, mustang seemed to let him go without a fight...what does that have to do with ed? he was a father to both of the brothers...i guess he just wanted to see them fly out of the nest for himself.
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hehe...i could tell the whole time roy cared for ed even through all the teasing...i just knew it was the parental kind...and if you want proof of that, read the manga because its more evident there...
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post Dec 1 2005, 12:09 AM
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Episode 43 provides massive evidence of Roy's protectiveness. Roy's feeling is sort of obvious (apparently not to Ed, who always insists Roy's just a bastard.) I think their relationship is part father-son, part brotherly.

Thanks for your comments, kokoro.
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Haha...I love their relationship...it's so funny. They act like they hate each other, but it's so true that Roy sees them like sons, especially at the end of the series.

Episode 48...

[spoiler]I LOVE this episode, and the last 5 minutes are so sad, but so wonderful between Ed and Roy. It's sad when they say farewell to each other at the last moment, but it's also nice *sob*. [/spoiler]



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post Dec 1 2005, 04:51 PM
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omg. just before i actually voted i was debating with myself whether i should put "playful animosity" or "cares about him but doesn't show it" and then i picked one, and then after that i realized that i forgot which one i picked. sleep.gif

playful animosity because it's PLAYFUL and ed still acts like he despises him, which could also be like caring but not showing it... cuz i suppose in the end, ed does care about mustang some bit after all their fun life-threatening experiences throughout the manga and the anime, and mustang was pretty helpful. they just tease eachother terribly, but it's in a sweet way. happy.gif


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post Dec 11 2005, 10:14 AM
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I believe Ed likes him in a comepletely straight way, and Roy likes Ed the same. Maybe a brotherly type thing?


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post Dec 11 2005, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE(Summoner Colette @ Dec 11 2005, 11:59 AM) [snapback]328001[/snapback]

I believe Ed likes him in a comepletely straight way, and Roy likes Ed the same. Maybe a brotherly type thing?


totally agree.


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post Dec 11 2005, 05:24 PM
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Roy loves Ed. As a person. Period.

Ed sees a little of that, and is still annoyed by the protective limits Roy puts on him.

There's still mutual love/respect between them.


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post Dec 11 2005, 11:31 PM
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Common you guys know it's all about the buttsecks! tongue.gif
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post Dec 12 2005, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(Envy @ Dec 12 2005, 12:16 AM) [snapback]328410[/snapback]

Common you guys know it's all about the buttsecks! tongue.gif


laugh.gif Leave that kind of conclusion to Mini. rolleyes.gif biggrin.gif


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post Dec 16 2005, 11:50 PM
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I think the 2nd choice is more of "the other way around". ^^"

I think Ed and Roy's reelationship is just between management and labor. ^^"

Or is it? o_O


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post Dec 17 2005, 12:59 PM
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Somewhat pertaining to this thread, I had a random thought about the train of relationships and love going on in the show. Alphonse loves and protects anyone he can; namely those who are too weak to care for themselves. Edward loves and Protects Alphonse with his life and all of his waking energy. Roy loves and protects Edward through the facade of officiality. Hawkeye loves and protects Roy with her loyalty and grounding constant presence. Hawkeye stands at the top of the love chain.

Then, of course there are all sorts of little spiderweb connections within the 'love chain'. Hughes loves and protects both Roy and The Elric brothers, and he is loved and supported by his family. Izumi loves and protects the elrics as well, and visa versa. Pinako and Winry care for the Elrics and anyone who needs their help. Edward often leaves behind some legacy of tough love for those he believes are hurting as he has been hurt, such as Rose. Martel loves and protects Alphonse, and visa versa, and exists to do so because Greed loves(d) and protects(ed) the chimarae on some level. Scar hates most people, but protects the weak, including people like Rose and Alphonse because he can relate to them. He was loved and protected by his brother.
There's just a whole lot of love and strength pulsing through the relationships in FMA and that's why I love it. smile.gif

(/totally pointless rambling)


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post Dec 17 2005, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Lily Chang @ Dec 16 2005, 10:35 PM) [snapback]330392[/snapback]

I think the 2nd choice is more of "the other way around". ^^"

I think Ed and Roy's reelationship is just between management and labor. ^^"

Or is it? o_O


agree that it should be more like the other way around for the second choice...

and also agreed that Ed (and maybe Al too) and Roy are only parental/brotherly.

QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Dec 17 2005, 11:44 AM) [snapback]330593[/snapback]

Somewhat pertaining to this thread, I had a random thought about the train of relationships and love going on in the show. Alphonse loves and protects anyone he can; namely those who are too weak to care for themselves. Edward loves and Protects Alphonse with his life and all of his waking energy. Roy loves and protects Edward through the facade of officiality. Hawkeye loves and protects Roy with her loyalty and grounding constant presence. Hawkeye stands at the top of the love chain.

Then, of course there are all sorts of little spiderweb connections within the 'love chain'. Hughes loves and protects both Roy and The Elric brothers, and he is loved and supported by his family. Izumi loves and protects the elrics as well, and visa versa. Pinako and Winry care for the Elrics and anyone who needs their help. Edward often leaves behind some legacy of tough love for those he believes are hurting as he has been hurt, such as Rose. Martel loves and protects Alphonse, and visa versa, and exists to do so because Greed loves(d) and protects(ed) the chimarae on some level. Scar hates most people, but protects the weak, including people like Rose and Alphonse because he can relate to them. He was loved and protected by his brother.
There's just a whole lot of love and strength pulsing through the relationships in FMA and that's why I love it. smile.gif

(/totally pointless rambling)


lmao XD You made my day.


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QUOTE(armor-alchemist @ Dec 17 2005, 09:40 PM) [snapback]330794[/snapback]
lmao XD You made my day.


Wait, does that insinuate that my theories are laughable? *Emos in the corner*


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post Dec 18 2005, 07:09 AM
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Ed doesn't hate roy. He cares about roy, but just doesn't show it lol. They're guys what do you expect?


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