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Suicide, What are your thoughts?
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post Nov 23 2005, 09:35 PM
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Awha~? How...?

Okay, so maybe not everyone's born the "same"--in any snese of it--but we all have the free will to push on, depsite the crapstorms, right? XD


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post Nov 23 2005, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(Celestial Fangirl @ Nov 23 2005, 08:06 PM) [snapback]319010[/snapback]

@Mini- I empathize with you more than I would like. Besides being too much of a coward, I just felt that it wasn't fair to others to do that...That and I never want to be the girl everyone gossips about in school about how she killed herself. I just can't stand the thought of people judging me and saying whatever they want without me being able to be there and defend myself.

You're kind of an inspiration for me I guess.



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post Nov 23 2005, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(Bling_bling_Angel @ Nov 23 2005, 10:20 PM) [snapback]319020[/snapback]

Awha~? How...?

Okay, so maybe not everyone's born the "same"--in any snese of it--but we all have the free will to push on, depsite the crapstorms, right? XD
Free will, yes, but not everyone is able or willing to use it before they fall into despair.


QUOTE(Envy @ Nov 23 2005, 10:29 PM) [snapback]319030[/snapback]
Aww thanks Celes. tongue.gif

See, if I had go though with it I wouldn't be the perverted oddball I am today. tongue.gif
laugh.gif That's a good thing? tongue.gif


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post Nov 23 2005, 09:53 PM
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*hugs Celes*

Oh, come on... ^^...

Why will you despair? *laughs some* Before you fall into that hole, think first... think, and then actually see that there is a thing we call "hope". And trust us, it works.


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post Nov 23 2005, 09:56 PM
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Aw thanks, but I know. I and people in general just have to remember it smile.gif


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post Nov 23 2005, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(Celestial Fangirl @ Nov 23 2005, 08:32 PM) [snapback]319034[/snapback]

QUOTE(Envy @ Nov 23 2005, 10:29 PM) [snapback]319030[/snapback]
Aww thanks Celes. tongue.gif

See, if I had go though with it I wouldn't be the perverted oddball I am today. tongue.gif
laugh.gif That's a good thing? tongue.gif



It's not? huh.gif
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post Nov 23 2005, 10:04 PM
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O_O;;;

Where is this thing leading to I'm getting confused?


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post Nov 23 2005, 11:47 PM
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Interesting topic that you have made Zombie....hmmm...this is really a sad topic.

Well I agree with some of the people on here.Suicied is only a temporary solution...but you lose your life.If you are that depressed you need help.If you killed yourself imagine what your loved ones and friends would go through.All the wondering like,"If I was there I could have stopped her."Or",Why?....why did you do this to yourself?"I would never want to do that to my family and friends.

I am friends with a girl a grade older than I am.She is now in 9th grade and I am in 8th grade.Last year when we were both in Junior High School together one of her other friends told me something.They told me about how she has tried to kill herself.....MANY times.About how her wrists are all scared up from her cutting herself.(she now wears a sweat band around her wrist so that no one can tell)And why?All because of a boyfriend and her abusive mother.But now she has gotten help.She is much better now.We are glad that she is not like that anymore...

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post Nov 24 2005, 01:58 AM
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Suicide is not a temporary solution, you're deciding to die, and being dead is quite permanent. I do believe that I don't have the right to self-impose myself in another person's life. Respect is how I approach suicide. So I won't judge suicide to be stupid or pointless because I don't have the right to decide for you; I will never truly understand the person going thorugh it so I don't have the right to shove my ideals in them.

I hated when people would tell me that there were things in life worth living for, to be brave or courageous to fight on. Living wasn't the problem, anyone can do that. It was living on with a worthwhile cause, to have a purpose and not be blinded by the bullshit that my race is entrenched in.

Suicide . . .. is about life, being in fact the sincerest form of criticism life gets.
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The sad thing in life is not always dying, it's what dies inside of us when we are alive.
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post Nov 24 2005, 09:11 AM
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wow suicide........never even thought about it.....but it is a stupid way to end your problems.....cause it only starts more problems with other people..........like for your best friends..... and your parents!!!!!!

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QUOTE(Thievesvinegar @ Nov 24 2005, 03:43 AM) [snapback]319142[/snapback]

And keep in mind, what's even worse:
The sad thing in life is not always dying, it's what dies inside of us when we are alive.
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That's a great quote.

A couple people said that suicide is selfish, but I think people have every single right to be selfish when it comes to their own life. And honestly, who isn't selfish? Everyone's most important person is theirself, whether they want to admit it or not.
I think it's selfish to expect someone to live just because if they killed themselves it might make you feel bad.

And suicide is not always a permanent solution to a temporary problem. People who commit suicide aren't always the little goth kid in the corner. Way to stereotype, guys.
When people commit suicide it's probably not over some stupid little problem that would go away the next day. It's deeper then that, and if you've never been depressed and if you've never seriously thought about killing yourself then you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.


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Suicide... I don't think it's worth it. If you're thinking about it, just get some help. It'll make a huge difference and you wouldn't be hurting yourself or your friends and family.

And what happens if you fail? They'll through you into a metal asylum! Then your life would even be more screwed up that before.


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I would only kill myself if I had a terminal illness and couldn't take the pain and knew I was going to die anyway.

That's the only reason I think of suicide, well, that and romantic troubles.

I probably should stay away from love because I'm the kind of person who when I fall in love, I fall hard, and love very strongly, and my love is the most important thing to me. And if it isn't working out, I feel depressed beyond belief. I feel like nothing will ever make me happy if I can't be with this person.

Well I had that feeling again recently over this girl I fell in love with, and it can't work out because I am sure she isn't bi like me and stuff, so.....

And for a couple months I felt like "nothing's ever going to make me happy again. I could have all the money in the world, be famous, have a handsome man, and clothes and jewelry and a big house, and it won't make me happy because I don't have her. Short of Nakago marrying me, I'll never be happy again now."

So I was only hanging in there for two reasons, to keep being there for my friends and family, and to keep seeing Nakago because he does make me happy (and yes that may be weird to everyone, but I can't help it, he's special beyond measure).

But now that I haven't seen the girl around for a while, I'm doing better, and I hope I never see her again even though part of me wants to.

But I hadn't really thought of suicide over her, just felt so depressed. God, it was a horrible feeling.

But, if I'd killed myself over past loves, like I had fantasized once over this guy I thought I liked, well, I'd never have met my friends and seen Nakago, so I'm glad I didn't.
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Suicide? Suicide is something no one should ever joke about that's for sure.

How I feel about it. Well, I think it is a personal choice. I don't think it's a cowards way out either. I think it takes a lot of courage to commit suicide. I think that if the person just can't take life anymore, if it is just too hard from them and they can't see any way out of it then I think it's better for them to end their suffering. But, at the same time I wish that they could find a way out of their pain and see that people out there do care about them and will help.

In fact, I had to deal with suicide this year. I'm a senoir in high school and so is one of my girl classmates. I have talked to her every now and then and we were even best friends when we were little. Three days into our senoir year she hung herself in her backyard. When I went to school the next day everyone was already talking about why she killed herself and spreading rumors. But there was a lot of people who were deeply saddened by what happened. It's really the only time I've seen my school kinda....come together and pull each other through. It's even harder when you have counsolers in your classes talking to you.

I don't see why people talk about why people commit suicide. Especially if they don't leave a note saying why they did it. My classmate didn't leave any note saying why. At school, people said it was because her boyfriend broke up with her, that she was pregnant, and that it was because of drugs. But none of them really now. Only my classmate knows why she did it and I don't think they should go around saying they know why she did it when they really don't. There was even a fist fight at school between one of my dead classmates friends and a girl. The girl was talking bad about my dead classmate and my dead classmate's friend beat the girl up. I don't think you should talk about someone like that. It's talk like that that makes people (especially girls) feel bad about themselves and feel worthless which is why some people commit suicide.


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As Anime-Kat2002 said girls feel worthless and thats why to try 2 kill themselfs more than guys but they do kill themself as much as guys do
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