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Suicide, What are your thoughts?
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post Nov 23 2005, 09:48 AM
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I have to look up suicide for English and I was wondering what you people thought about it.

More 2 the point what do you think about this.
Four out of five teenagers who successfully commit suicide are male, but the average female teenager is four times more prone to attempt suicide during her teen years than the average male.
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post Nov 23 2005, 10:23 AM
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I think any failed suicide attempt (I'm using that pretty loosely. There will always be people who screw up and jump off a building that isn't quite high enough, so instead of ending up dead they end up with brain damage, etc.) is a call for help.
If someone wants to die, they die.
I think women are more driven by emotion then men, causing more of them to attempt suicide.

And as far as I'm concerned, a person is the owner of their life. If they want to kill themselves then that's their choice. It pains me that anyone ever wants to kill themselves, but in this world it can't be helped.
It annoys me to no end when someone says that suicide is a coward's way out. I wonder if the person who says something like that has ever seriously thought about killing themself. Killing yourself is an act that plunges you deep into the unknown, and there is nothing more frightening, in my opinion, then the unknown. It takes quite a bit of courage to kill yourself.

Then there are people who say things like "John shouldn't have killed himself over his girlfriend leaving him, I would be able to get through that". But that person isn't John. That person does not have the same exact make up and emotional weaknesses that John had.
What seems like absolutely nothing to you could cause another to be pushed over the edge. Don't judge others using yourself as the measuring stick. Doing that is not only egoistical, it's flawed.

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post Nov 23 2005, 10:29 AM
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What do i think about it? Well first off i do know someone who died a few weeks ago by taking his own life. It was a co-worker of mine and while i did not know him very well i know the first thing i thought of was why? Did he think no one loved him? did he think tomorrow wouldn't get any better? I just think when you are in that state of mind you need help obviously, someone who you can talk to that will listen.

Sidenote here: the way i found out this person commited suicide is when i heard 2 other co-workers joking about it...and one actually said "Who cares" and i kind of cringed a little and thought Geez, maybe that is why this poor man commited suicide, thoughts just like that. sad.gif


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post Nov 23 2005, 10:40 AM
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the way i found out this person commited suicide is when i heard 2 other co-workers joking about it...and one actually said "Who cares"

That's SICK. Why on earth would someone sat something like that?
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post Nov 23 2005, 10:44 AM
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Believe me i said something about it. It made them feel like more then the jerks they are.


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post Nov 23 2005, 10:53 AM
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hmm, sensitive topic here.

Well I know someone who found her mother after she had commited suicide and as you can guess she hasn't been the same since. In cases like this I think suicide is a very selfish thing to do. They go on about no-body caring about them but most of the time they just don't realise how many people do. People with children do their children so much mental damage by taking their own lives.

Those who attention seek are obviously desperate, otherwise they'd attention seek by self harming. Sometimes it can go wrong and they really do end up killing themselves when they didn't intend to.

However when the real sick bastards who are banged up for life kill themselves I really don't care. They have no life as they are in prison anyway. And I don't mean petty crimes I mean the really disturbed people.


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post Nov 23 2005, 11:34 AM
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My friend attempted suicide last week and was found just before he died. He's been braindead, and we've all been on emotional pins and needles about the subject since he was on life support, but somehow I think in the back of my mind I believed he would get out of it, and I could at least see him, or he could hear me, or we could make some sort of sense out of it. They pulled the life support and he died last night.

It just dosen't make any f***ing sense.

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post Nov 23 2005, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Nov 23 2005, 12:19 PM) [snapback]318709[/snapback]

My friend attempted suicide last week and was found just before he died. He's been braindead, and we've all been on emotional pins and needles about the subject since he was on life support, but somehow I think in the back of my mind I believed he would get out of it, and I could at least see him, or he could hear me, or we could make some sort of sense out of it. They pulled the life support and he died last night.

It just dosen't make any f***ing sense.


Why did they pull out the life support? Was it his parent's decision? How did he become braindead? How did he attempt suicide?


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post Nov 23 2005, 11:58 AM
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I just hope his family, friends & Toby-Chan can overcome this.

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QUOTE(Mrs. Edward Elric @ Nov 23 2005, 12:31 PM) [snapback]318710[/snapback]

QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Nov 23 2005, 12:19 PM) [snapback]318709[/snapback]

My friend attempted suicide last week and was found just before he died. He's been braindead, and we've all been on emotional pins and needles about the subject since he was on life support, but somehow I think in the back of my mind I believed he would get out of it, and I could at least see him, or he could hear me, or we could make some sort of sense out of it. They pulled the life support and he died last night.

It just dosen't make any f***ing sense.


Why did they pull out the life support? Was it his parent's decision? How did he become braindead? How did he attempt suicide?


His parents chose. I have no idea how he did it, because it's so hard to get news about him; his parents were being all secretive and didn't even want the teachers to talk about it.

I... I just don't even know anything and it's driving me nuts.


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:03 PM
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Here's an excerpt one of my friends sent to me. Take it into consideration.

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Saving a person's life unknowingly

One day, when I was a freshman in high school,

I saw a kid from my class was walking home from school.

His name was Kyle.

It looked like he was carrying all of his
books.

I thought to myself, "Why would anyone bring home all his books on a Friday?

He must really be a nerd."

I had quite a weekend planned (parties and a football game with my friends tomorrow afternoon), so I shrugged my shoulders and went on.

As I was walking, I saw a bunch of kids running toward him.

They ran at him, knocking all his books out of his arms and tripping him so he landed in the dirt.

His glasses went flying, and I saw them land in the grass about ten feet from him.

He looked up and I saw this terrible sadness in his eyes.

My heart went out to him. So, I jogged over to him and as he crawled around looking for his glasses, and I saw a tear in his eye.

As I handed him his glasses, I said, "Those guys are jerks.

They really should get lives.

" He looked at me and said, "Hey thanks!"

There was a big smile on his face.

It was one of those smiles that showed real gratitude.

I helped him pick up his books, and asked him where he lived.

As it turned out, he lived near me, so I asked him why I had never seen him before.

He said he had gone to private school before now.

I would have never hung out with a private school kid before.

We talked all the way home, and I carried some of his books.

He turned out to be a pretty cool kid.

I asked him if he wanted to play a little football with my friends.

He said yes.

We hung out all weekend and the more I got to know Kyle, the more I liked him, and my friends thought the same of him.

Monday morning came, and there was Kyle with the huge stack of books again.

I stopped him and said, "Boy, you are gonna really build some serious muscles with this pile of books everyday!

" He just laughed and handed me half the books.

Over the next four years, Kyle and I became best friends

When we were seniors, we began to think
about college.

Kyle decided on Georgetown, and I
was going to Duke.

I knew that we would always be friends, that the miles would never be a problem.

He was going to be a doctor, and I was going for business on a football scholarship.

Kyle was valedictorian of our class.

I teased him all the time about being a nerd.

He had to prepare a speech for graduation.

I was so glad it wasn't me having to get up there and speak.

Graduation day, I saw Kyle.

He looked great.

He was one of those guys that really found himself during high school.

He filled out and actually looked good in glasses.

He had more dates than I had and all the girls loved him.

Boy, sometimes I was jealous.

Today was one of those days.

I could see that he was nervous about his speech.

So, I smacked him on the back and said, "Hey, big guy, you'll be great!"

He looked at me with one of those looks (the really grateful one) and smiled.

"Thanks," he said.

As he started his speech, he cleared his throat, and began.

"Graduation is a time to thank those who helped you make it through those tough years.

Your parents, your teachers, your siblings, maybe a coach...but mostly your friends...

I am here to tell all of you that being a
friend to someone is the best gift you can give them.

I am going to tell you a story."

I just looked at my friend with disbelief as he told the story of the first day we met.

He had planned to kill himself over the weekend.

He talked of how he had cleaned out his locker so his Mom wouldn't have to do it later and was carrying his stuff home.

He looked hard at me and gave me a little smile.

"Thankfully, I was saved.

My friend saved me from doing the unspeakable."

I heard the gasp go through the crowd as this handsome, popular boy told us all about his weakest moment.

I saw his Mom and dad looking at me and smiling that same grateful smile.

Not until that moment did I realize it's depth.

Never underestimate the power of your actions.

With one small gesture you can change a person's life.

For better or for worse.

"Friends are angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."

There is no beginning or end.. Yesterday is history.

Tomorrow is mystery.

Today is a gift.


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:11 PM
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So emotional & so very very true. My bro picks on people all the time & just refuses to believe some people will go over the edge & commit suicide or shoot up the school. My bro needs to get a reality check, I mean he just turned 15 on Saturday & I'm only 13 yet I know how serious bullying is to some.


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post Nov 23 2005, 12:13 PM
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^^ My friend emailed that to me too. It made me cry.



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post Nov 23 2005, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE(~FMAgurl~ @ Nov 24 2005, 04:28 AM) [snapback]318724[/snapback]

^^ My friend emailed that to me too. It made me cry.

That almost made me cry and it takes a lot 2 make me cry.
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Darn you Mrs. Edward Elric! you made me cry.


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