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Chapter 53 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Nov 26 2005, 07:46 AM
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QUOTE(Kirara @ Nov 12 2005, 01:01 PM) [snapback]313082[/snapback]

About the gate in the chapter

[SPOILER]I think some people are misunderstanding what happened when Ed met up with Al's body. I mean I am not 100% sure about this either but what I gathered is that Ed figured out a different way to do a human transmutaion using the souls on Envy that didn't involve bringing someone back to life (which we now know is impossible). The ruin of Xerxes was actually a part of a human transmutation circle which Ed finished. In this way Ed was able to get through Gluttony to the real gates and back to the real world.

Why was Al there? Well as armour alchemist stated Ed and Al's minds are linked. It seems everyone has there own doorway to truth so Ed was able to get to Al, but Al couldn't leave with Ed because Ed did not have Al's soul. So it's possible that Al will somehow have to save himself but I guess we will just have to wait and see.[/SPOILER]

Yes, couldn't have said it better if I tried. That's what i got out of it also.


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post Nov 26 2005, 06:19 PM
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QUOTE(Tien @ Nov 26 2005, 08:31 AM) [snapback]319911[/snapback]

QUOTE(Kirara @ Nov 12 2005, 01:01 PM) [snapback]313082[/snapback]

About the gate in the chapter

[SPOILER]I think some people are misunderstanding what happened when Ed met up with Al's body. I mean I am not 100% sure about this either but what I gathered is that Ed figured out a different way to do a human transmutaion using the souls on Envy that didn't involve bringing someone back to life (which we now know is impossible). The ruin of Xerxes was actually a part of a human transmutation circle which Ed finished. In this way Ed was able to get through Gluttony to the real gates and back to the real world.

Why was Al there? Well as armour alchemist stated Ed and Al's minds are linked. It seems everyone has there own doorway to truth so Ed was able to get to Al, but Al couldn't leave with Ed because Ed did not have Al's soul. So it's possible that Al will somehow have to save himself but I guess we will just have to wait and see.[/SPOILER]

Yes, couldn't have said it better if I tried. That's what i got out of it also.


i took it more as Ed was using the Philosopher Stone inside of Envy to actually Transmute himself which caused him to cross over...


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post Nov 26 2005, 10:10 PM
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Edward transmutes Ling, Envy and himself as well as sacrifices some of Envy's tumor people (XD) as a fee to pass through the gate.
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post Nov 26 2005, 10:48 PM
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Envy's people were in graditude when Ed transmuted them too.


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post Nov 27 2005, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Ladymercury @ Nov 26 2005, 11:33 PM) [snapback]320237[/snapback]

Envy's people were in graditude when Ed transmuted them too.


yes... they all wanted to die or to take his body.. it was really disturbing for a bit.


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post Jun 5 2011, 10:06 AM
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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 53 here. smile.gif


Those who have already read further chapters are also welcome to join the discussions, but please do not post any future chapter content on this thread.

This thread is Spoiler Party thread for chapter 53 content, meaning, posters do not have to use Spoiler tags while posting about chapter 53 content on this thread. smile.gif


For the reading reference, please send a PM to A Pierrot's Aria and ask for "Reading Reference Assistance for week 48."
(For more detailed explanation on this, please read Tombow's post here.)

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post Jun 5 2011, 01:53 PM
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It's funny to read my old replies and see how I misunderstood things laugh.gif

But chapter 53 was always one of my favorites!

I am kind of confused how this works so I hope this was okay to post here.

<@Kirara - Yes, it's fun reading old discussions on the chapter. It shows how complex FMA story was. ^^ As for posting here, as long as we stay away from posting future chapter spoilers, everyone is free to join discussions on this thread. ^^ ~ Tombow.>
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