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End Of The World..., Do you think so?
wolfi1412
post Sep 21 2004, 03:57 PM
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so, it seems that all of you should know about the so-called End of the World or Christians called "The Second Coming of Christ".. now, just wanna ask, what do you think?

My thoughts:
Mom said it will start when all Jews are back in Israel and when they're done fighting... and then all the 7 plagues will start.. I do believe in this...


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post Sep 29 2004, 10:05 AM
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there's a great difference between argue and discussion..
in a argue, you attack a person with insulting words, in a discussion, you attack only the idea that is presented, using arguments.. wink.gif

okay, first off, I agree pretty much with Outtawack311
the bible isn't perfect, it is a selected part of texts, of which some are quite accurate and others are less trustable.. I don't think that much is just thought up, but always more or less connected to facts.. people like Noah, Moses, Jesus, I think it were really existing persons who had a great influence on people's believes.. it is really hard to just bring a myth with people who had so much wisdom.. so here is a medium to find truth: are the things that happen and people really humanly and realistic, and (very important) can you find truth and wisdom that you can apply to your life?

now, religion was in the beginning always a good thing, something to remeber people of their universal bond and responsibility through God.. if you just take the 10 commandements and the 11th of Jesus (love anyone as you would love yourself), then the world would be a great place... but what did religions do when they got more power? they needed to keep their power, and the best way tot do it is by fear.. fear that God will punish you if you don't follow his commandements!! so, I have to live the way of God out of fear, not out of love? the problem is, there is no good nor evil, everything (God) simply Is (can there be anything outside God??).. God can give you advise how to make your live more humane and pleasurable.. he can send you messengers, and messenges, and you might just ignore that or even crusify a messenger because it sounds too good (blasfemy)

now, God will not punish, EVER, because God is love.. he would not demand anything, and will just wait until someone asks him questions about how to live well, and depending on what someone needs at the moment, he will send again advise.. he can't get angry, because he's a good, patient and conent father.. Jesus was a good adviser, a good example, and just living and being yourself in such a great way as He did, is everything you need to let go of your own judgement.. you need no God to forgive you, just forgive yourself, because you are one with God, just like Jesus, or any other human to ever have walked on earth..

there's nothing but God, God Is, he's everything, and is still becoming himself through us, through nature, since beginning of time, untill the end, and then again, because there's no end to Her/It/Him/All
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- wolfi1412   End Of The World...   Sep 21 2004, 03:57 PM
- - Shinigami   I don't believe in the religious end of the wo...   Sep 21 2004, 04:29 PM
- - Zander Evens   I'm a partial Christian, and well.. if i go by...   Sep 21 2004, 06:36 PM
- - wolfi1412   I never finish reading Revelations, though it...   Sep 21 2004, 09:26 PM
- - What, no bacon?   I don't know about the biblical interpretation...   Sep 21 2004, 09:36 PM
- - wolfi1412   I think so.. u know if you notice, every time the...   Sep 21 2004, 09:41 PM
- - Guest   omg, it seems that apocalyptic thinking is in than...   Sep 21 2004, 10:10 PM
- - MJHermi   For me... I'm a Catholic, but I have an odd an...   Sep 22 2004, 12:28 AM
- - Gash0le   Theories I've heard of what should happen befo...   Sep 22 2004, 08:15 AM
- - Shinigami   Well China and N korea are a major problem for dif...   Sep 22 2004, 11:33 AM
- - wolfi1412   well you know, even though if God doesn't want...   Sep 22 2004, 06:32 PM
- - Guest   ('m the same guest as before in this topic.. ...   Sep 22 2004, 10:14 PM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Sep 22 2004, 04:41 AM) I th...   Sep 23 2004, 12:57 AM
- - Thievesvinegar   hah. That's cute filimovna, we should make the...   Sep 23 2004, 07:38 PM
- - gugclo   How many people here are atheist? O.o   Sep 23 2004, 07:56 PM
- - wolfi1412   quite a number... and to filmnova, if they want ...   Sep 25 2004, 11:59 PM
- - Poorunk   Speaking of which has anyone noticed that the Elri...   Sep 26 2004, 12:35 AM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(Poorunk @ Sep 26 2004, 07:35 AM) Speaki...   Sep 26 2004, 10:35 AM
- - Vael   mmm... I'm thinking the end of the world itsel...   Sep 26 2004, 11:10 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   today i read the Revelation in the Bible... it is ...   Sep 26 2004, 11:38 AM
- - wolfi1412   from what I know, God doesn't want us to suffe...   Sep 26 2004, 09:36 PM
- - What, no bacon?   12/22/2012 Mark your calendars, folks.   Sep 26 2004, 09:53 PM
- - wolfi1412   ? what's that?   Sep 26 2004, 10:00 PM
- - What, no bacon?   QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Sep 27 2004, 05:00 AM) ? wh...   Sep 26 2004, 10:15 PM
- - wolfi1412   the date is google.com???   Sep 26 2004, 10:16 PM
- - Guest   that date is the end of time according to some pro...   Sep 27 2004, 02:27 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 27 2004, 10:27 AM) if Jesus...   Sep 27 2004, 10:22 AM
- - Chibi Viki   i don't really believe in the end of the world...   Sep 27 2004, 10:40 AM
- - wolfi1412   Well, no one exactly know when is it... to your ...   Sep 27 2004, 05:10 PM
- - Gashole   QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 27 2004, 09:27 AM) that dat...   Sep 27 2004, 05:24 PM
- - filimonovna   Oh, I hardly believe in christian Apocalypse, it...   Sep 28 2004, 07:15 AM
- - Outtawack311   Believing that the "second coming" will ...   Sep 29 2004, 12:00 AM
- - wolfi1412   QUOTE(Outtawack311 @ Sep 29 2004, 07:00 AM) B...   Sep 29 2004, 12:22 AM
- - Chibi Viki   ok people... this topic is slowly becoming a war, ...   Sep 29 2004, 04:56 AM
- - filimonovna   I also think we shouldn't argue. And i just w...   Sep 29 2004, 08:45 AM
- - rsF   No offense to anyone religious, but I don't be...   Sep 29 2004, 09:05 AM
- - Guest   there's a great difference between argue and d...   Sep 29 2004, 10:05 AM
- - RoyxRiza BigFan   actually if any human trys to predict the end of t...   Sep 29 2004, 10:10 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   @Wolfie: ...don't feel hurt... you have to be...   Sep 29 2004, 11:09 AM
- - Guest   lol, God is a he? I wonder if he sometimes would f...   Sep 29 2004, 12:01 PM
- - Girlie Alchemist   @.@ so many lines @.@ tooke me long to read   Sep 29 2004, 12:14 PM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   @Guest: GOd loves his work(humanity, etc) as its ...   Sep 29 2004, 01:29 PM
- - wolfi1412   Guest, that was a long post.. I'll try to repl...   Sep 29 2004, 04:48 PM
- - Evafan1   Well Ive researchd alot of different religions and...   Sep 29 2004, 09:12 PM
- - Guest   waii ^^ I didn't have such a good discussion i...   Sep 30 2004, 08:35 AM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 29 2004, 07:01 PM) lol, God...   Sep 30 2004, 10:07 AM
- - Cute Alchemist   what u lot talking about any way? lol   Sep 30 2004, 10:09 AM
- - Guest   well, I can't insult God, but I can make peopl...   Sep 30 2004, 10:12 AM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 30 2004, 05:12 PM) well, I ...   Sep 30 2004, 10:23 AM
- - Guest   okay, but I still don't know which religion is...   Sep 30 2004, 10:33 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   Yes, filmonovna, that's what i forgot to tell(...   Sep 30 2004, 11:21 AM
- - Guest   ow, yeah, I forgot them too!! they all pre...   Sep 30 2004, 11:44 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   what actually truth is, i can't say... i can a...   Sep 30 2004, 12:45 PM
- - Cute Alchemist   WW3!!!! lol it like a war here *pi...   Sep 30 2004, 12:59 PM
- - Guest   hmm, yeah, truth comes both from experience as fro...   Sep 30 2004, 01:10 PM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   me, too, G'night!!   Sep 30 2004, 01:17 PM
- - wolfi1412   argh.. wrote a whole bunch of stuff.. and it disap...   Sep 30 2004, 08:54 PM
- - Outtawack311   QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Sep 29 2004, 12:22 AM) QUOT...   Sep 30 2004, 09:00 PM
- - wolfi1412   QUOTE(Outtawack311 @ Oct 1 2004, 04:00 AM) Ac...   Sep 30 2004, 09:24 PM
- - Gashole   Dayum, I gotta start reading this thread from the ...   Sep 30 2004, 09:29 PM
- - Gashole   @Guest or Outwack or whatever: First of all, the...   Sep 30 2004, 09:52 PM
- - Outtawack311   " that's one long.. quote.. sorry, but y...   Sep 30 2004, 10:07 PM
- - Outtawack311   Gashole, I only use outtawack311. There is another...   Sep 30 2004, 10:09 PM
- - wolfi1412   QUOTE(Outtawack311 @ Oct 1 2004, 05:07 AM) So...   Sep 30 2004, 11:18 PM
- - Guest   "Proof that Jesus ever existed: the disciples...   Oct 1 2004, 12:43 AM
- - Outtawack311   opps, I forgot to put my name in the last post.. I...   Oct 1 2004, 12:44 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   about the red sea.: that Jesus walked over the sea...   Oct 1 2004, 09:45 AM
- - wolfi1412   QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 1 2004, 07:43 AM) There is ...   Oct 1 2004, 05:32 PM
- - Gashole   Uh... there are actually historical evidence about...   Oct 1 2004, 05:37 PM
- - Gashole   Hey Outtawack, can you declare your main view abou...   Oct 1 2004, 05:39 PM
- - wolfi1412   he's an atheist, I believe.   Oct 1 2004, 05:44 PM
- - Outtawack311   Actually, I believe that there is a god. Its just ...   Oct 1 2004, 07:19 PM
- - Gashole   Ahahahh, you registered! Welcome! I wi...   Oct 1 2004, 07:22 PM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   ah, i meant the reed sea...^^;; no matter, it is ...   Oct 2 2004, 12:08 AM
- - Guest   ._. did Julius Ceasar exist? did Hannibal exist? ...   Oct 2 2004, 12:15 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   there is too much proof for them... you would den...   Oct 2 2004, 12:40 AM
- - Guest   yeah, but what's proof?? letters maybe? there...   Oct 2 2004, 12:59 AM
- - Guest   sorry for double-posting I'm not registered y...   Oct 2 2004, 01:02 AM
- - gugclo   Read "Da Devinci Code" Its a fictional n...   Oct 2 2004, 01:11 AM
- - Guest   00? oro? i never heard about it.. don't know w...   Oct 2 2004, 08:40 AM
- - Gashole   QUOTE(gugclo @ Oct 2 2004, 08:11 AM) Read ...   Oct 2 2004, 08:49 AM
- - Gashole   Okay, look, if Adam and Noah and Abraham and Elija...   Oct 2 2004, 09:11 AM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(Gashole @ Oct 2 2004, 04:11 PM) Okay, l...   Oct 2 2004, 09:20 AM
- - Guest   people who say that believing in God is stupid, re...   Oct 2 2004, 09:38 AM
- - Gashole   QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 2 2004, 04:38 PM) often the...   Oct 2 2004, 09:54 AM
- - Gashole   Let's say I try to bring science down... Sci...   Oct 2 2004, 10:01 AM
- - Gashole   QUOTE(filimonovna @ Oct 2 2004, 04:20 PM) Whe...   Oct 2 2004, 10:06 AM
- - Guest   QUOTE(Gashole @ Oct 2 2004, 10:01 AM) Let...   Oct 2 2004, 10:45 AM
- - Gashole   I'll go on saying... how do you know those pro...   Oct 2 2004, 11:11 AM
- - filimonovna   QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 2 2004, 05:45 PM) QUOTE(Gas...   Oct 2 2004, 11:55 AM
- - Guest   @Gashole: well, you have for instant an certain ra...   Oct 2 2004, 01:23 PM
- - Gashole   (I attempted to end this pointless argument, but o...   Oct 2 2004, 03:43 PM
- - wolfi1412   To the Newest Guest: pls put a name on your guest....   Oct 3 2004, 12:15 AM
- - filimonovna   I agree with wolfi's words. Our existing is th...   Oct 3 2004, 04:39 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   isn't there a law that everything is true unti...   Oct 3 2004, 08:32 AM
- - Nailbiter   allright, time to give the guest who was posting a...   Oct 3 2004, 10:35 AM
- - Prinz_Zoisit   QUOTE(Nailbiter @ Oct 3 2004, 06:35 PM) now, ...   Oct 3 2004, 10:39 AM
- - Gashole   I'm officially lost. What are we arguing about...   Oct 3 2004, 11:24 AM
- - wolfi1412   QUOTE(Nailbiter @ Oct 3 2004, 05:35 PM) scien...   Oct 3 2004, 08:32 PM
- - Outtawack311   QUOTE(wolfi1412 @ Oct 3 2004, 12:15 AM) To th...   Oct 3 2004, 11:25 PM
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