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A Little Mistake, A few mistakes in FMA
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post Aug 30 2005, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(ed's numbuh 1 fan @ Aug 29 2005, 11:57 PM)
okay,okay sorry  unsure.gif 

well the water was waist deep and i'm sure Ed did care and they where'nt in the rain THAT long,besides the blood seal was on the interior back of his armor so the rain could'nt even touch it anyway. i really hate to flame it dosen't get anything done so i will rest my case  sleep.gif
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Sorry but Ed never showed any concern for water's effects on Al's blood seal at any point in the anime until that moment. And rain will seep into Al's armor because it ain't waterproof with all those holes and gaps in the joints. If it was, water will never enter into his armor like it did later on. wink.gif
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post Aug 30 2005, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 30 2005, 06:37 AM)

In the original Japanese TV series, he punched his fist into his hand dry.gif Only in the DVD and American broadcast did he have his palms being against each other.


It doesn't matter. All that matters is that he makes a circle out of his arms and body.

In later episodes he doesn't even have a hand, and performs alchemy by clapping his remaining hand to his auto-mail stump.

Yet another "mistake" that was debunked.


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post Aug 30 2005, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE(Maes-Hughes @ Aug 30 2005, 02:53 AM)
well whoever made that list doesnt know fma well
for example:
Episode 5-
Ed is able to make the water boil because he DID clap his hands if u watch it you would see it just takes him a few seconds after he claps

EDIT: after reading even more from that list, the person certainly hasnt watched fma alot or even likes the show, most of their accusations can be proven wrong, like where did all that "incomplete stone" in episode 22 come from. the military has been killing people and using them as ingredients

Episode 18- why is lust able to explode part of the library? NOTE: IT WAS SCAR NOT LUST

Episode 19- scar's arm can do more than just destroy things, he already knew the secret of the stone before he "read" the notes from marcoh

Episode 22- Envy said "no one created us, we were born"
Envy was correct in saying that, they were born but then died.


http://www.ahboba.com/otros/bonesmistakes.pdf
i only read like 6 complaints and most of them are false

I will print out the sheet and go over "the mistakes" and correct each one.
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Please, before stating what you are going to say, at least, read it well and then check for it.

I was the one who did the list and I like fma, what I don't like is what bones did to the second half.

Episode 5:
Ed DOESN'T CLAP, he just puts his fist to his palm.

Episode 18:
Please, whatch the episode again. Scar made the ENTIRE laboratory explode. Yeah, but why did Lust made explode some part of the shelfs? That's clearly shown. So please, whatch it again.

Episode 19:
In later episodes it's said he can't. Just because he does it, doesn't mean he can. The tatoo of his arm is the part of the philosopher's stone's transmutation circle. 1)Scar doesn't know how to use alchemy (EVEN IF HE CREATES THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE <--that's something bones used to create it and safe plot deepeners, animation etc. and rush the ending)
2)A transmutation circle is for what it is, even if it is the red stone itself, doesn't have the power to take all the letters, nor to descript nor anything besides transmutating.

Episode 22:
There are LOTS of episodes besides this where not only envy but wrath and the others say "we weren't created, we were born!" and suddenly "we were created!" and even "we were created by THIS RED STONE!"

EDIT:
BTW, I wasn't complaining about that red stone, but about the red water from which it is supposed to come, from the invented episode where they find the false Elrics who have a whole mountain with this red water.

This should be discussed in "Do you hate what BONES did to FMA"? Since I posted the link there.

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I will print out the sheet and go over "the mistakes" and correct each one.


whoa! At least someone is willing to discuss it! ^^ it's great, since I (well we) will be able to develope it before we send it to BONES.

Anyways, please, watch all the episodes, one by one, as soon as posible (so you won't forget things), maybe find some friend to help you, and note the most important things concerning to what I said in a notebook or something and then come into conclussions or statements, so we can safe time.

EDIT:
It took me a week, working 8-10 hours per day or so to find all that, watching some episodes and checking things more than once. So I hope you will take this seriously and watch and note all the facts in a notebook as I did and keep watching and checking befor saying anything.


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post Aug 30 2005, 01:50 AM
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It doesn't matter if Ed claps or not.

He just needs to connect his appendages to make a circle.


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post Aug 30 2005, 01:59 AM
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oh... Then why does he need to go to winry to fix his automail? For example in episode.... 16? Can't remember, when they fight Scar and he breaks his automail and Al is broken, but he can't fix him because he doesn't have anything to clap besides ONE hand? But yet again...in episode 47 he made a transmutation by just clapping one hand to his broken automail with no hand but just a broken wrist. Shouldn't he be able to do that in the other episode? Clap with his broken automail shoulder?


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post Aug 30 2005, 02:01 AM
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QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Aug 30 2005, 01:50 AM)
It doesn't matter if Ed claps or not.

He just needs to connect his appendages to make a circle.
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If it doesn't matter, then why did BONEs have to change that scene at Elicia's birth from fist-smacking to hands clapping? dry.gif
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post Aug 30 2005, 02:03 AM
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QUOTE(Reika @ Aug 30 2005, 08:59 AM)
oh... Then why does he need to go to winry to fix his automail? For example in episode.... 16? Can't remember, when they fight Scar and he breaks his automail and Al is broken, but he can't fix him because he doesn't have anything to clap besides ONE hand? But yet again...in episode 47 he made a transmutation by just clapping one hand to his broken automail with no hand but just a broken wrist. Shouldn't he be able to do that in the other episode? Clap with his broken automail shoulder?
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Touching his shoulder wouldn't make a proper array as such tongue.gif .

One can argue it doesn't make any sense at how it works at all considering that his arm is fake.


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post Aug 30 2005, 02:13 AM
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look, following this rule, he could have clapped with his foot (the bridge) and still make a transmutation, or whatever that would allow him to make a circle.


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post Aug 30 2005, 02:20 AM
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Then don't complain about him putting his fist into a hand and making it that way tongue.gif .


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post Aug 30 2005, 02:28 AM
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Then you admit FMA the anime is chockful of nonsense tongue.gif
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post Aug 30 2005, 02:29 AM
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I know, and I did. I complaint. In the manga doesn't happen. Both in the manga and in the anime he needs to go to fix his automail BUT in that episode.

But you know, they didn't complain about sooooooo much contradictions........


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post Aug 30 2005, 10:22 AM
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Now I have no idea what you are talking about.

Also Ed's not going to be as useful walking around with a stump of a shoulder so he can't unleash his alchemized auto-mail blade of bad-assery.


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post Aug 30 2005, 10:27 AM
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QUOTE(TheVileOne @ Aug 30 2005, 06:22 PM)
Now I have no idea what you are talking about.

Also Ed's not going to be as useful walking around with a stump of a shoulder so he can't unleash his alchemized auto-mail blade of bad-assery.
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Oh! so the best solution was to tell scar to kill him if that meant that he wouldn't kill Al. And not defend himself... now, that doesn't make sense.


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QUOTE(Reika @ Aug 30 2005, 05:27 PM)
Oh! so the best solution was to tell scar to kill him if that meant that he wouldn't kill Al. And not defend himself... now, that doesn't make sense.
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Reika, you don't make any sense. You make so little sense you hurt my eyes.


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Hhahaahaha XDDDD the one that doesn't make sense is BONES not me. I'm just stating what they did. Ed is supposedly able to make alchemy by claping with his broken automail. But in that episode he didn't defend himself once it was broken, he kneeled down and told Scar he should be enough of a sacrifice since an Alchemist killed his brother. Scar told him that he promised he wouldn't hurt his brother (Al), so Ed just stood there about to be killed by Scar because he couldn't use alchemy because he had his automail broken. Also, after that, when they get away of Scar, Ed says he needs to go to his automial technique BEFORE being able to transmutate Al's armor back to normal, which means he CAN'T clap with his broken automail and still use alchemy but he DOES IT in the latest episodes.

If you can't find that, you have in the document I told you the exact episode where it is (I'm at work right now and I can't find the episodes for you)


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