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Chapter 39 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Sep 11 2004, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(Kasumi @ Sep 10 2004, 09:16 PM)
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i think what you're asking is that rectangular plate with that circular circle that barry's body scratched off, right? that what barry's blood seal that contains his soul, the same as Al's. now that he scratched it off, both body and soul died. well, that's how i understood it though.

I see now. I just couldn't understand it, because I though Barry's body had already been chopped. blink.gif

Barry won the fight against his body, but he hasn't chopped/ killed off his body yet. I think he was about to do that when Lust came and chopped up his current blood seal body.

*rereads the the post and realizes how confusing it is*

Erm...Maybe this would be better. 66 won the fight against Barry, but even though he won, 66 didn't kill Barry...yet. When he was about to chop up Barry, Lust came and chopped up 66...

Um... You're right, I suppose. At least there's no other way ^_~


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post Sep 11 2004, 03:48 AM
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um....can anyone translate the stuff that riza said when she knew about the "death of roy"??


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post Sep 11 2004, 07:27 AM
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Riza shouted "Kisama!" and started firing.

The literal translation of "kisama" would be "Why you!"


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post Sep 11 2004, 09:44 AM
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"Kisama" is more like "Damn you!" or some other cussing of that nature...

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post Sep 11 2004, 10:44 AM
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Kisama is a really rude way of saying "you". So, it's more like a curse, and often translated as "you bastard" or something similar.
In some series characters sometimes use "kisama" instead of anata/omae/etc to show extremely disrespect to the one they are speaking to.
(Or so I think...)


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post Sep 11 2004, 10:47 AM
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Yes, it's true. Scar often says kisama when speaking to State Alchemists.


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post Sep 11 2004, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(Ninie @ Sep 11 2004, 05:47 PM)
Yes, it's true. Scar often says kisama when speaking to State Alchemists.

Really? I thought his speeches were quite polite!


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post Sep 11 2004, 12:07 PM
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Depends how you see it. For a guy like Scar, I guess you could say he's polite... but if others use the same type of speech, they'd be considered very rude.


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post Sep 11 2004, 12:30 PM
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ok, back to the topic...

question, since lust revealed her philosopher's stone that was on her chest, does that mean that the philosopher's stone of the other homonculi are where their ouroboros tattoos are or also on the chest in place of the heart?

here's the thing... remember when Ling sliced gluttony in half? shouldn't he have seen or sliced gluttony's p. stone by then since, being sliced straight in the middle, he should've seen it. if it was in the place of the heart and since gluttony's ouroborus is on his tongue, then Ling should have sliced it too in the process, but it wasn't.


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post Sep 11 2004, 12:36 PM
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I was thinking about that too. My guess is that because Ling was looking straight ahead when he sliced him, and Gluttony "pieced" himself back together quickly, Ling didn't see it.


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post Sep 11 2004, 01:02 PM
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Um, thats an interesting question... .
Wether it is in his chest (the "heart") or his tongue, it should had been sliced. Personally, I think it's in his chest. The stone is... a little big for his tongue o.o
Kasumi might be right: Ling simply didn't see it. But it's still weird... .


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post Sep 11 2004, 01:29 PM
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I don't know, Gluttony's tongue is pretty thick, so I do believe the P.Stone is in the tongue. There's got to be a reason the Ouroboros tattoo is in difference places for each homunculi, right? Well, that's what I think anyway.

I was just looking over the "Ling sliced Gluttony in half" part. Things happened too quickly, Ling was looking ahead, it's highly unlikely that Ling saw anything.

What is questionable though, is that homunculi dies if the P.Stone is destroyed. From the looks of it, Ling should've sliced the P.Stone in half. So what happened there?


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post Sep 11 2004, 01:38 PM
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Maybe he missed the stone for 0.00001 milimetres... o.o
(Just kidding, but sometimes they used explanations of that sort in some series... so unreal @_@)


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post Sep 11 2004, 02:03 PM
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I suppose...But Arakawa-sensei isn't the type of person who would use that kind of explanation.


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post Sep 11 2004, 02:51 PM
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I have a question, how did Lust dies? that's odd.. I mean she suddenly goes poof.. (sorry, coz I haven't read the translated version)


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