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Fma-1 Conqueror Of Shamballa Movie Summary, FMA-1 and FMA CoS SPOILERS inside!!
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post Feb 24 2006, 02:50 PM
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You have some good points but i still HATE that ending... they just do that to all their fans, who would all want more. Every single one of them. I aam just MIGHTILY pissed off... dry.gif


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post Feb 24 2006, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(churchmachine @ Feb 19 2006, 12:20 PM) [snapback]352013[/snapback]

personaly ive always thought that Ed and AL to be in love with Rose but were intimidated by her very sad (losing her boyfriend ,that whole incident with losing her voice and getting a baby) past that they never acknowledge it fully.

as for Ed-Winry are more af a brother-sister (cousins?) kind of relationship soo EEEEWW! laugh.gif

Anyway, to the ending:

although not so much present in the movie ive always thought the series relied heavily on the "EQUIVALENT EXCHANGE" principle. soo as the say goes: " u cant have ur cake and .... have it live in the Hagaren world too! " blink.gif or sometin like that?.

which sorta explains the progression of the story and i think fit's well. for (examples) :

Wrath helps Al and dies EXtremely painfull death = gets riunited with naked izumi yawzaa!

Al finally gets his bro back = almost destroys the frikin world!!!!

Ed goes back to real world = saves Hagaren world

Al follows Ed = dude can never return to his own world again (but i hope!) blah blAH! errrrr what do i know??

speaking of wich it reminds me of a reason why i thought Roy and hawkeye would never workout, cuz he prolly still wants to be fuhrer and riza while still in the military wouldin't be able to hook up (cuz i think they dont allow that) would she leave the millitary for him? shes probally more useful to him in her current position... uuummm wub.gif .... I mean profesionally speaking *perv* ph34r.gif

plus Roy could use a more bleu-blood chick, for his image of course (u know politics) and not a super-soldier SEXY-sharpshooter like our beloved hawkeye ...see where im getting at???

WAAIT!!! sad.gif before u HURT ME! consider that this was an opinion i had when i finished the tv series, BEFORE i saw the movie soo now im unsure.gif undicided on the matter ( man when i get of topic i go all the away).

I guess my POINT is that u shouldn't get discouraged cuz of stuff like this (ur bennefer :oops: i mean EdWin dint get toghether:rolleyes:)
and try to enjoy it for what is : a gadang GOOD FMA MOVIE!!! and i think the good people who made it WEREN'T trying to screw anyone over with the ending.

peace out foos!


I disagree because the whole thing they did with episode 48 (I think, when Ed first goes to the other world) they made this big deal about how equivalent exchange didn't exist. Ed's father said that, for instance, when you fix a broken clock you get the fixed clock and lose the wood and other stuff of the broken clock BUT where were you getting the power from and what was the exchange for that? The whole point of that episode was there was no equivalent exchange. Also, the classic line by Al is "BACK THEN we truly believed that to be the world's one and only truth." So Al is speaking from a future position about a past belief they once had that they no longer believe in.

I also never thought Ed and Al were in love with Rose. I think maybe it was more of a fascination for them if even that. For one thing I don't believe anyone falls in love after knowing someone for only a few days at most. Dante claims Ed and Al fell in love with her but I don't trust her because she's evil, also she makes a claim to Ed that she was so looking forward to making his (the "his" is Ed's dad) son fall in love with her. In other words she was going to take over Rose's body, pretend to be Rose and then get Ed to fall in love with her as Rose. She wouldn't need to do that if Ed was already in love with Rose. They never even talk about her or think about her for nearly the rest of the series. They were both at "that" age and here comes a pretty girl their age who isn't Winry! Before that they'd only really been around Winry (and that one girl in the fourth episode who was dressed like a boy for most of the episode).

As for Winry, yeah the Anime really portrays them in more of a close brother/sister relationship at least on Ed's part. Winry seems a little more like she's interested in him but Ed doesn't seem to be interested at all. In the manga there's a lot more that suggests those two will end up together though so for the Ed/Winry fans, go to the manga! biggrin.gif

Anyway, there's my viewpoint. biggrin.gif


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post Feb 24 2006, 05:44 PM
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The problem I have with Ed and Al supposingly falling in love with Rose is that it's completely out of the blue, and that it feels more forced then anything else.

In fact, there's absolutely no indication that neither of the brothers have any kind of feelings towards her. Yes, Ed does help her alot, but that's Ed, he does that for a lot of people and Al is always a nice person at heart, the same as Ed but he's just more open about it. And then BAM out of nowhere Dante claims the brothers were in love with her. My first reaction was "WTF?" Who wrote that line?

That's one of my huge gripes with Bones, they seemed very determined in both the series and the movie to introduce their own original romance, Rose in the series and Noah in the movie (who looks a lot like Rose conveniently). I've said this a million times before, and I'm going to sound like a broken record but it seemed like Bones was never happy with Winry, and the instance Bones had an opportunity to diverge from Arakawa's plot, they pretty much ran her into the ground to pave the way for Rose.

It's hard to describe, but the whole thing feels very forced, and doesn't flow or feel natural.


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post Feb 24 2006, 06:37 PM
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Yeah, neither Ed nor Al ever displayed even the slightest interest in Rose. The last time Ed sees her in Liore (near the end of the series) she says something like "I'll see you later" and he responds with "Yes. No, this is goodbye Rose." He had no intentions of ever seeing her again, she's the only person that he gives a final absolute goodbye to. When Russel and Fletcher say goodbye to them he agrees to come back (or something similiar). He probably didn't expect to come back but he left the option open with them. With Rose it was final, he had no plans on ever seeing her again. Even Dante acknowledges his rejection of Rose when she says (as I already said before) something like "what a shame, I was looking forward to having his son fall in love with me in that body." I don't think Al ever even acknowledges her in those last episodes at all. Then again, in the final episode he never even thinks about her, he just wanted her to leave with Wrath so he could do the final transmutation and get Al back.

It was a weird about face for Bones. It seemed like they were leaning towards Winry, they had her in the opening and closing credits and then a lot of her at the end of the series. Then they pull the Rose thing out of nowhere and it makes utterly no sense. I don't think Ed or Al were ever in love with anyone during the series or in the movie. Ed was too concerned about Al and Al just never found anyone. The closest thing was when Envy pretended to be Winry and Ed warned Al and when Al ran over to whack him, Winry/Envy says, "I love..." and Al stops dead in his tracks. It almost made me wonder if they were trying to imply AL was in love with Winry but it could have been a familial love as well. It was very irritating though, if they wanted to change things they should have set it up better and made it more plausible.

Also, in the movie, Rose and Ed never even meet. Al and Rose meet briefly but Al seems only vaguely interested in her and Rose treats Al more like a mother would. Every time you see Rose in the movie, she is next to or near Armstrong (and they're also both in Liore). She also has a couple kids around her. At the end of the movie you see a shot of Armstrong with several kids around him and it's been suggested that these are Rose's original kid and two others she had with Armstrong. Another thing, Rose betrayed Ed all over the first episode, Noah betrayed him in the movie (and he refused to take her with him), Winry is the ONLY woman they've been in contact with who has never betrayed Ed! So who's the logical one he should have been with? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(Jedi28 Posted Yesterday @ 06:22 PM)
Winry is the ONLY woman they've been in contact with who has never betrayed Ed! So who's the logical one he should have been with? biggrin.gif

None, there's no woman he should have been with or who is logical for him. Bones also anihilated any form of love at the end of the movie by making Noah leave so yeah, EdXNo one = OTP!!!!1!


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Gone off topic a little bit people, save it for the who Ed should be paired with thread.

And I thought Noah was still with them at the end? She has no reason to stick around but she did get on the truck with them didn't she? Not that I'd particulaly like to see her again, just another Rose


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QUOTE(Chiyo @ Feb 25 2006, 09:32 AM) [snapback]354721[/snapback]

Alphonse_Elric_0 Two of my arts is in your collection, yay!

Gone off topic a little bit people, save it for the who Ed should be paired with thread.

And I thought Noah was still with them at the end? She has no reason to stick around but she did get on the truck with them didn't she? Not that I'd particulaly like to see her again, just another Rose


She was with them but Bones released these "letters to Ametris" in a magazine that were supposedly written by Ed and Al after the movie to people back home (like a journal type thing since they obviously couldn't send them). In one of them, Al says that Noah left with her people and they don't know where she is. Yeah! biggrin.gif


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Ok so i have many a question to ask you (if you want to answer) wink.gif . Ok so what happens to Roy and Hawkye? When dose that movie come out (in America)? and if you dot know that last one could you find out for me or tell me how to find out. Thanks that will be mmuch appreciated. biggrin.gif . And that about it. but yeah umm thanks.












QUOTE(Sycia @ Jul 23 2005, 12:45 AM) [snapback]224008[/snapback]

Phew. Okay, now I can type the summary out like a normal person instead of fumbling with the phone.

The movie was great overall (a few weak points here and there) but it really is a treat for loyal fans to the series. : ) It's in the details that fans will find delight in, so I truly recommend you to skip the spoilers and await the movie so you can have as much fun as I did throughout the show.


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* Note: The sequence of events switching from the real world and the Hagaren world, I might've mixed up a bit... too many switches within the movie itself eh

Also, STOP asking WHEN the movie will be SUBBED. We've been asked this a gazillion times and this is not a fansub forum!. For the 1986753897685682th time it will be fansubbed when the DVDs come out in Japan (about half a year after the movie's release) so DON'T ASK anymore PLEASE.

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We start off with a Alphonse Elric talking to the masked guy in a factory (Alphonse is in his armor form). The masked guy wants to sell / promote this little bomb he devised to the 'National Alchemist', but Alphonse is disgusted at the idea of it and Edward Elric soon arrives and it turns into a grand fight where masked man ends up using human alchemy to try and do something with a heap of dead bodies. Ed tries to stop him from performing the taboo, but it's too late. He gets sucked into the Gate (together with his bomb) and the vaporous castle they were in collasps. It's then revealed that the Ed and Al of that time were 15 and 14 respectively.

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Ed is telling a laughing Alphonse Heiderich that tale while driving. He crashes the car in a ditch (lol) and they end up hitching a ride to their destination with a truckload of gypsys. One of them, Noah seems to be a little bit of an outcast, and she 'sees' things when she makes physical contact with Ed. Ed and Alphonse head to what looks like a carnival. There, Alphonse's pals (Alter!half-chimera gang minus Greed and snake-woman) and him set up a small rocket. Ed is uninterested and goes to rest in the truck. Meanwhile Noah is turned in to the Thule Society that wants to 'buy' her services. She flees, and Ed helps her escape.

He lets Noah stay at the place Alphonse and himself are renting. Apparently Gypsys are despised and hated as loose women who cheat men of their money because they don't have their own country, also snitching the jobs of others. Here we find out that Alter!Hughes (who I didn't pick up a name from, just 'omawari-san' meaning 'Mr Policeman') is one of those who is suspicious of Noah, and Ed makes fun of him to try 'proposing' to the landlady Gracia. Elsewhere the Thule Society starts getting ready for some decisive action...

Meanwhile in the Hagaren world, Winry talks to Sig who says Al went out on his own seeking Ed out. Izumi had taught him everything she knew. We see Al, walking in the middle of a desert, at his last drop of water from his tumbler. He claps both hands together and conjures a well (in the middle of a sand dune) that gushes water out (overkill! O_O). Then we see Winry paying a visit to Izumi's grave (the audience was O_O at that scene) where she finds Wrath nearby in a pathetic state, and offers to fix his battered-up automail. Somewhere else snowy, Havoc & Breda arrive at a small outpost (more like hut) looking for their 'Colonel', who's looking extremely pathetic standing a pile of snow at attention. Inside, he talks to his former subordinates as a lesser officer and even uses a MATCH to light Havoc's cigeratte, stating he hasn't used alchemy since the Bradley incident because it reminds him of his foolish actions (or the like, I don't remember). Havoc and Breda leave and sigh that they initially wanted to persuade Mustang back, but he seems set on staying a guard in the cruel cold. Armstrong's family is in Liol, trying to get the place back on its feet (haha, Armstrong's all sparkly as usual).

Back in the real world Ed and Noah are having lunch when a car drives by and Ed spots Bradley. He pursues the man and knocks his driver out, demanding to know why a Homoculus is still in this world. Bradley is confused. He turns out a regular human, Alter!Bradley, otherwise known as Mabuse, a movie maker. He leads Ed to a castle (well Ed knocked his driver out so had to drive Mabuse there) where he says he's being gone after by a 'dragon'. Rather, a large snake. Ed goes up the tower, half decided on getting outta there when he realizes the threat is real, looking at the damage done to the interior. He's shocked when a very, VERY familiar voice calls his name, and out bursts the green serpent we last saw Envy transform into before diving into the Gate. Serpent!Envy tries to devour Ed, but is attacked at all sides by the Thule Society with gun-mounted planes and stakes (>_< NOOO!!! ENVY!!!!!). The Thule Society's leader, Dietlinde Eckart has Ed held and is somewhat surprised to learn his name, then has someone knock him out with some gas. Serpent!Envy is taken away by planes.

The Thule Society uses Envy as part of their little 'magical circle' and try to get a link to the 'other world'. Envy's head launches to what little we can make out as Hohenheim. Light envelops the place and some people within armors (a lot of variations including the type Alphonse's spirit was trapped in) are transported to the other world.

Liol is suddenly invaded and attacked by the armored warriors. Most civilians are helpless but along comes Al, who transfers a part of his soul into the armors and makes them fight for him. He then alchemizes a tornado to sweep up the remaining armors.

Back in the Thule Society's lair, the armors return due to the 'magic circle' being incomplete. They're all dead, and Ed turns up to interrupt the party. He's shot at, so dives into the heap o armors, suddenly hearing one of them speak in Al's voice. It is an armor that is the exact model he forced his brother's spirit into years go, speaking to him. They fight their way out and talk by a river. Because Al has transferred part of his spirit into the armors, he can communicate with Ed now, but eventually he fades away, leaving Ed alone.

Ed returns to his room. Alphonse and Noah realize he's a little more cheerful than usual. Ed says he may have found a way back. A short while later Alphonse is looked up by a member of the Thule Society wanting to employ his services. That member also talks to Noah for a bit, all this going on without Ed knowing

Back in the Hagaren world, Al is happy at having met Ed at long last. He goes to Central to find some answers. Roy has heard of the invasion and heads to Central too. Winry too, heads there.

Ed meets Bradley again, who talks about the upcoming war and all (during which Alter!Lyla appears for a bit, snobbishly ignoring Ed). Ed decides to intervene with Thule Society's plans. He goes back home and tries to persuade Alphonse to stop helping the Thule Society because his research will only help with the war. Alphonse will have none of it and knocks Ed aside, then coughs blood out (TB?!) claiming that he just wants to leave a mark in this world, HIS world. He leaves.

Hagaren world. Roy is paying a visit to Hughes' grave. Wrath finds Al and leads him to that underground city (when asked why? Wrath just replies something like, 'It don't matter anymore'). Al tries to create a link to our world there, but something is lacking and he doesn't know what. Then a strange grey monstrosity appears. Gluttony, looking very big, ugly and undoubtably hungry. It attacks Wrath, who doesn't actually stand much of a chance until he eats a bit of the 'red stones' leaking from Gluttony. He kinda powers up and rips off a few .... apendages from Gluttony but is overpowered anyway. He finally lands on the Alchemy circle Al just made and rams the automail arm into the middle of it, driving it into rock firmly. Gluttony has, by that time managed to close his large, uncaring jaws upon the younger-looking Homoculus. His blood soaks the ground and Wrath yells to Al to use them both (Gluttony and him) as the exchange to open the Gate to that other world. Al hesitates a bit, but does it when Wrath says it's what he brought Al there for. We then see Wrath looking quite human (um, naked) standing in front of the Gate. It opens and there stands Izumi who welcomes him into her arms, then they disappear. Meanwhile, Winry and Scieszka walk to Hughes' grave to find a bunch of white flowers there already. They think it might've been Gracia and Elisia.

Our world. Ed is back at the Thule Society's lair. He inspects the 'magic circle' and dismisses it as child's play at first until realizing it's an alchemy one. Being the alchemist he is, he completes it. Then wondering what he's doing, touches it with his hands & gloves stained with his blood (he cut himself on some glass while creeping into the place), and the whole thing lights up. He stops in horror, then the Thule Society people come out and persuade him to carry on. He looks up at one point at Envy, and sees Hohenheim in the serpent's jaws, STILL alive. Apparently that was the only way the Thule could get the serpent to calm down. Hohenheim wants his son to return to his world, and closes the serpents jaws upon himself, going in a huge fountain of blood (I never knew a human had that much in him) with Ed screaming. The Thule are happy they're getting what they want. Noah is there to do their bidding; she remembers Alchemy circles from Ed's memory and is helping them because she wants to go to Ed's world (what they all call 'Shambala') because she faces so much persecution in this one. Having no more use for Ed, Dietlinde shoots him (THE b*tch!)(*&$()!^). Fortunately she only hit his mechanical arm and he only passed out to be strapped into the seat of an aircraft Alphonse has made while working for the Thule. Alphonse wants Ed to be happy, to go back to where he came from, so in the midst of the Thule sending off crafts and crafts of their armored warriors into the opened portal leading to 'Shamabala', he sends Ed (who's not all that willing to leave Alphonse behind) on his way. Sadly after Ed leaves, a Thule member who witnessed the deed, shoots Alphonse (sleep.gifwink.gif. Noah is going, "TAKE ME WITH YOU!" as she sees Ed head into the portal, but he leaves without her.

Hagaren world. Well, the Thule crafts have somehow managed to break from of those lil black arms thingies (within the Gate) and have burst right out through Al's Alchemy circle. He's not sure what to think of it at first. Winry and Schiezka were creeping through some tunnel when it collasps under the impact of Thule's crafts wrecking havoc in the underground city and they find Al. A smaller craft comes through and crashes at a site near them, and when the smoke clears they find Ed on the ground whincing. Winry runs up and goes, "And just where have you been?" (awwwww) It suddenly dawns upon Al what terrible things are pouring out of the portal and he runs off in shock. Ed tries to follow but his mechanical leg is mangled beyond repair. This is when Winry smiles and opens that large briefcase she's been carrying all the while. It's Ed's automail limbs. She knows roughly how much he's grown and starts to get to work fixing them back on him.

Central is under attack. People are getting shot down by the armored warriors of the Thule and the millitary isn't holding up too well. While Hawkeye's sharpshooting through the armor's breathing holes does take a few down, they are too great in numbers. Even when Armstrong arrives to help they are still fighting a losing battle. This is when Roy Mustang makes his grans re-entrance into the scene. He well... blows them up and barks out commands to his subordinates (Breda, Hawkeye, Fury and that guy who used to be under Hughes) like in the old days when he was a Colonel. Though he's a corporal, his subordinates still call him Colonel and follow his command (biggrin.gif). Hawkeye remains after the others have gone off, remaining in a salute while smiling to Roy.

Al is roaming the town getting more desperate at the terror he unleashed. He nearly even tries to resurrect a child crushed by debris before being stopped by Ed who reminds him of the taboo. 'You only wanted to bring me home.' But nonetheless, this war is their fault and they ahve to stop it.

War scene gets real grand and fun with Roy, Al and Ed fighting together against a borderline Dietlinde, who has deemed the inhabitants of 'Shamabala' (the Hagaren world) not fit to live since they aren't the same as she is (she doesn't even think them human). Ed and her are matched evenly in a one-on-one fight but she calls on more of her armored fighters to corner him. Fortunately Al had taken control of them (by transferring part of his soul into them) and they beat Dietlinde.

Ed knows the war will continue unless he goes BACK to the other world to destroy the Alchemy circle allowing the Thule access to their world. He separates himself from Al and Roy, and goes back (poor Al is crying at this). Ah yes, before he leaves, Ed tells Al to 'take care of Winry'...

Ed returns to find Noah holding a dead Alphonse. Dietlinde is gone. Then from a familiar armor comes Al's voice. Ed thinks it's just part of Al's soul talking to him again, but out pops his little brother from inside! He snuck back on, unwilling to be separated again. Says Roy would've by now destroyed their world's portal, and he (Al) wants to continue his travels with Ed like they did 2 years ago (this is where Ed realizes Al has regained the missing part of his memory!) biggrin.gif

Character endings: Winry is no longer waiting for them (woman's intiution; she knows they aren't coming back), she's doing her own auto-mail research. For some odd reason, Armstrong is at Pinako's place playing with plenty of kids. Roze too. Alter!Hughes is stalking Gracia (okay okay he tried to go up and talk to her at last). Hey where's Roy's ending?!

The final ending is Ed, Al and Noah hitching a ride. The former 2 look at the 2 people in the front seats of the truck they're getting on and smile. It's Alter!Scar and Alter!Lust (the audience was laughing XD)... The ending dialogue is Ed saying they can't detach themselves completely from this world (and the upcoming war) because now it is theirs.

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Gah what a long summary *dies*

Please do correct me if you see any mistakes. : )

What happened to Roy and Rize eventually, wasn't specified.

NOTE: This summary is still being fixed and proof-read and can be changed at any time.

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Apparently the movie is supposed to be released October 3rd which is INSANELY early for a Japanese Anime movie. It's also the date Ed has inscribed on the inside of his watch, which is taking the fandom a little to far I think. smile.gif

Roy and Hawkeye start up the movie separated from each other. He's guarding a shack in the Ametris version of Syberia and she doesn't want to see him in his depressed and despondant state. By the end they meet up again briefly (or at least see each other I think) but the movie doesn't go any further so you don't find out what happens to them.


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so basically...final pairings are as follows:

ED + no one

AL + no one

ROY + no one


fantastic.... dry.gif


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QUOTE(The Tempest Alchemist Posted Today @ 01:12 PM)
so basically...final pairings are as follows:

ED + no one

AL + no one

ROY + no one


fantastic.... dry.gif

My thoughts exactly...without the sarcasm.


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QUOTE(The Tempest Alchemist @ Mar 1 2006, 08:12 PM) [snapback]356749[/snapback]

so basically...final pairings are as follows:

ED + no one

AL + no one

ROY + no one


fantastic.... dry.gif



TEchnicly we don't see what happens with Roy.There is a chance of Ed and Noha.


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^^^ No, there isn't.

[spoiler]Noah left with the other ghypsies after the movie. Al said this in one of his letters.[/spoiler]


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I've been thinking about it and really I'd rather not have Ed or Al with anyone. For one thing, I can't picture either of them settling down to start a family and be regular family type guys. Also, one of the major themes of FMA is the relationship between Ed and Al. If either of them were to start a relationship it would change that relationship. Instead of Ed and Al it'd be Ed and whoever or Al and whoever. Especially if one wound up with someone but the other didn't. Then they'd be like a third wheel. Now, I'm STILL not happy with how the movie ended but I am happy that both boys stayed single. I really think they're defined by their travels and by their relationship with each other, any other relationship would just mess that up. biggrin.gif

And I'm SO HAPPY that it ain't ever gonna be Noah! Of all three (Noah, Winry, Rose) she's the most irritating! Noah almost got Ed killed, Rose almost got Ed AND Al killed, Winry is abusive.


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^ Either way, they're screwed with those women. XD


Yeah, Noah wasn't so great...When I finally saw the subbed version, I was like...'Oh, please...' And I thought she wasn't concieted.




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