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FMA Anime (the First Series) Q & A Thread, Warning!! Spoilers inside!!
MonsterEnvy
post Aug 17 2006, 10:59 PM
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Oh, I disagree. I think that the Sins were named by the sin of the creator, not the sin of the homunculus.

Lust:
[spoiler]This one is quite obvious. Scar's brother lusts after her and trys to resurrect her.[/spoiler]
Gluttony:
[spoiler]this is somewhat unclear because, at least in the anime without the movie, we know very little about Gluttony. My guess is that since Dante created Gluttony in order to refine the stone and therefore hoard it for herself, the sin is therefore the 'taking' and 'hoarding' aspects of Gluttony than necessarily eating.[/spoiler]
Envy:
[spoiler]It's easy enough to think that Hohenheim envied other people's children and wanted his own back.[/spoiler]
Pride:
[spoiler]Dante took great pride in her creation of an aging homunculus, That's as much as I can get, there was as little or less about his creation than Gluttony's.[/spoiler]
Wrath:
[spoiler]Izumi blamed herself for the death of her child. She hated herself for it, and she performed the transmutation to assuage her wrath at herself. [/spoiler]
Greed:
[spoiler]dante created Greed as a puppet to help her gain wealth and power. Of course, he turned on her, but she originally created him to get the same sort of power that she thought that Hohenheim would have had had he kept Envy.[/spoiler]
Sloth:
[spoiler]I'm at least somewhat versed in the sins, so I'm aware that, contrary to popular belief, Sloth is actually the failure to progress spiritually, not necessarily to be lazy physically. A better word for it is Acedia. Ed and Al's sin was refusing to accept that their mother was dead and move on. Instead, they lingered behind, and that is why she is Sloth.[/spoiler]

Also, it's not that the sins are completely named by the sin of their creator. They also take on the characteristics of that sin.


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post Aug 18 2006, 02:09 AM
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Well, I said it was just a theory. There was nothing sure. Only Bones know, even though I have a hard time to think Scar's brother resurrected his lover just out of lust.


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post Aug 26 2006, 07:48 PM
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Ed and Al's mom (Trisha) died from an illness that she had been convering up since their father (Hikari no Hoenheim) left her with them. Some say that it was because it wore her down having to take care of both of the boys and waiting for Hoenheim to return (which he did later), but when he did, it was too late.

Fossil Disease is one of the main foci (plural of focus...) of episode 35. It's been a whle since I've seen the episode, but I'll answer to the best of my ability in spoiler format... [spoiler]The disease was plaguing the village, and a few years back, when Lust was passing through, Envy decided that Lust should give a little bit of incomplete Philosopher's Stone to an aspiring alchemist named Lujon to help advance their plans for the Philosopher's Stone. The Homunculi purposefully spread the Fossil Disease to make Lujon, whom Lust had given the incomplete Philosopher's Stone to in the form of a ring (similar to the rings worn by the State Alchemist Roy Mustang in the Ishbal Masacare), use the Philosopher's Stone to try and combat the disease. The problem was that Lujon fell in love with Lust, who he had no reason to believe that she wasn't a human. Lujon reminded Lust of her old feelings from her human existence as fiancee to Scar's older brother.[/spoiler] I hope that this answers your question. And now...
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post Aug 30 2006, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(asu @ Apr 17 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]382359[/snapback]

QUOTE(CutEowyn @ Apr 17 2006, 06:51 AM) [snapback]382164[/snapback]

In the manga someone said Elrics' mom is died from plague, but I think the did from loneliness or something concerning her husband.

You're able to save a poor frenchgirl... Pleaze, I think "OMG" means oh my god, but what "ZOMG" means ??


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zomg

many variations on the origins from that link.

use urbandictionary if you are confused about any other internet slang.


I thought that the "Z" stood for "Zenshin"...
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post Aug 31 2006, 12:25 AM
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So.... What did the army really do to Rose that she lost her voice. Oh and where did she suddenly get the baby from?


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post Aug 31 2006, 05:37 AM
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Re: the Rose question, I'm going to give this a spoiler space, just in case:

[spoiler]An earlier episode showed Rose hiding children from the soldiers in Lior, and Hakuro (the General in the episode with the train-hijackers) trying to 'persuade' her to co-operate, but she refused. Rose...got the baby after she was raped by Hakuro's soldiers. At least, that is the implication when Ed asks what happened to Rose. I think why she wasn't speaking had something to do with Dante influencing her.[/spoiler]

I have another question: I understand where the 'real' Philosopher's Stone comes from, but what is the red water (I'm thinking of what Nash Tringham was experimenting with) made of? I'm guessing that Tringham stopped his research in Central because he found out the same thing Tim Marcoh did, but I could be wrong.
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post Aug 31 2006, 07:09 PM
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The redwater is 'A precursor material for manufactering a philosophers stone.'
They stopped researchong it because Mugear wants to use a gruesome 'Contingency plan' to refine the red water faster.


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post Aug 31 2006, 10:13 PM
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About all those "RoyxEd fans"

How pervert can you get? Fantasizing with a homo relationship involving a MINOR... Am I the only noticing something doesn't add up?

I'm very sorry if I didn't sound very PC. But we are talking about a felony vicarized through a cartoon. I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with the actual anime/manga.
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post Aug 31 2006, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(Drool Alchemist @ Sep 1 2006, 12:13 AM) [snapback]439694[/snapback]
About all those "RoyxEd fans"

How pervert can you get? Fantasizing with a homo relationship involving a MINOR... Am I the only noticing something doesn't add up?

I'm very sorry if I didn't sound very PC. But we are talking about a felony vicarized through a cartoon. I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with the actual anime/manga.
Ummm... @Drool Alchemist - I think you might have posted that on the wrong thread.
I'm more or less good with "factual" questions on FMA anime content, but not so good with "rhetorical" questions like that. biggrin.gif

But, if you go to FMA character discussion forum, we have threads such as:
Yaoi poll, EdxAl, FMA Homosexual coupling, EdxRoy, HeixEd, EdxRoy Fan list, Edx?? poll, Royx?? poll, FMA shonenai, ans so on where, I think, you can post your opinion and be heard by the intended audiences?? unsure.gif

Hope that helps!! happy.gif


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post Sep 1 2006, 03:09 AM
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Geez, the lack of searching skills of this member, and the cliché arguments! (C'mon people, be original! >_<)...It's been a long time though... *goes to fma_fanwars*

@Astria: The red water is certainly made of very toxic products, seeing how all these citizens got illness because of it (and that's why Nash Tringham ran away), but at the same time, it can form an incomplete Philosopher's stone and heal, but the effects don't last long (see, I think, episode 36, with that Lujon guy and Lust. The bird fell dead again seconds after).


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post Sep 1 2006, 12:49 PM
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It's not lack of ability, it's lack of willingness. This is a generic thread. And I have to save time for important stuff like work and participating in more worthy fora.

"Fanwars"? I'd like to think I'm beyond that. It' just that the juvenileness and faddish character of many anime fans amazes me.

It's a farewell, I'm yet hoping to find somenday an useful forum about anime/manga.

Cheers to the bunch of genuinely worthy members here. You may know who you are.
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post Sep 1 2006, 01:03 PM
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Don't worry! The members of fma_fanwars judged! You're not beyond that, you're actually far behind (and they suggest you to go look at some Elricest, because it's even better than RoyEd!)! But kudos to you anyway! : D *waves*


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'Buffy and Angel had gone out before and Buffy wasn't really comfortable talking to Spike and Angel at the same time, because now Spike and Buffy had been going out for 6 months and Buffy was afraid that Angel might tell Spike that him and Buffy went out, but it turns out that Angel had told Spike that they went out, Spike was heartbroken that Buffy never told him that they went out, so Spike broke up with Buffy to get back at her for not telling him that Angel and Buffy went out.'

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post Sep 1 2006, 01:07 PM
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I don't think that it's about "a lack of willingness." I think it's more about the appropriateness of the topic in the fourm or thread you're currently reading.

This thread is for the purposes of asking about the contents of the acutal show or the manga, not for something that exists only in the fan base, which Roy and Ed as a couple exists there only. There is not actual intentional coupling of those two in the series at all. Just like there is no evidence to support an Al and Winry coupling, but a lot of people like reading about that. The only real couples that have evidence behind them (at least in the manga) are Ed and Winry, and Roy and Riza.

On another note, you asked
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How pervert can you get? Fantasizing with a homo relationship involving a MINOR... Am I the only noticing something doesn't add up?
. I think that those who don't enjoy that coupling just don't bother asking about it. There are too many fans of weird pairings that others just don't bother. Personally, if you don't like it, just ignore it. Besides, without sounding like a total fangirl, it's pretty hot. But, that might just be me and my personal preferences...


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post Sep 2 2006, 02:22 AM
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QUOTE(Drool Alchemist @ Sep 1 2006, 02:49 PM) [snapback]439916[/snapback]
It's not lack of ability, it's lack of willingness. This is a generic thread. And I have to save time for important stuff like work and participating in more worthy fora.
@irridescentsong - Actually, it's lack of ability, and lack of willingness because I don't want to try to answer something I don't know, and hence making fool of myself!! laugh.gif
(And, because I don't think this thread is the right thread to carry out that discussion.)

I can answer some of the questions on FMA anime content fairly well, but I don't know much about "RoyxEd" stuff, let alone about RoyxEd FANS, hence I can't answer your question even if I wanted to. (Please, ask me about RoyxRiza "facts" in FMA instead!! XDDD)

And, yes, like irridescentsong, I believe this thread is for "factual" content of FMA anime, and NOT for "rhetorical" questions such as yours, or "what if" type of "discussion" questions, such as... "Do you think Hohemheim should have stayed with Trisha??" and so on.
As such, my standard response is to try to find corresponding thread(s) where the intended discussion might be carried out, and guide the poster there, when those type of "leading" questions are posted.

I understand your desire to start a discussion about RoyxEd fans on THIS thread, but I believe that topic should be discussed on other threads in our forums, and hence I have shown you the links for some of those threads on my previous post.
Don't you like to post your question on those threads, and open the discussions there?? unsure.gif


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post Sep 2 2006, 03:22 AM
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Huh, I think they said they were leaving.


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'Buffy and Angel had gone out before and Buffy wasn't really comfortable talking to Spike and Angel at the same time, because now Spike and Buffy had been going out for 6 months and Buffy was afraid that Angel might tell Spike that him and Buffy went out, but it turns out that Angel had told Spike that they went out, Spike was heartbroken that Buffy never told him that they went out, so Spike broke up with Buffy to get back at her for not telling him that Angel and Buffy went out.'

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