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QUOTE (NightMistress @ Jul 14 2005, 05:25 PM)
It gets quite annoying when people like to put words in your mouth about something. "You fangirls hate Winry/Rose because she has a chance to take your precious Ed away from you." For the record, I'm more of a Roy fangirl than an Ed fangirl, yet you don't see me bashing Riza to high heaven. She's probably my favorite female character of the show. Rather, if you've been here for the past several months, you may be well aware that I am a very active (arguably obsessive) Roy/Riza shipper. I love Ed (and yeah in the 'I think he's hott way') and I love Winry so it works out great for me. People can stick with their belief (or preference) that it's more brother-sister if they'd like, but it factually isn't (at least where the manga's concerned). I ship EdWin pretty darn strongly too (heck, I may be more vocal about them than Royai since you can argue their relationship more in the anime).
Anyways, a couple of weeks ago I posted my reasoning to my dislike for Rose. Someone else said the same thing as me earlier in this thread, but I'm copying and pasting the whole thing again. It contains anime and slight manga spoilers.
I find Rose completely uninteresting. When I think of her, I think of BONES doing a bad job at making an introductory character from the manga into their own OC. They didn't have as much to go on with her so tried making stuff up. She's in the manga for such a short time that you can't get a true sense of her personality aside from not having a mind of her own and needing to be told what to do all the time. Yet BONES puts her in the anime a lot to try to make her important for some reason. That's probably the root of it all as to why she's so annoying. Furthermore, while most of the characters have a tragedy or two, it seems like they pile it on extra thick for her in order to inspire sympathy. Damsels in Distress have always annoyed me (especially anime ones). First she's an orphan, then she's lost her boyfriend, then she realizes her beliefs were a big fat lie, then she gets raped by some soldier to end up with a baby and unable to speak, then she's taken by Dante (and since she doesn't strike me as being very independent, I think it was a mix of her voluntarily going with her, along with a mild influence from Dante). Yadda yadda yadda what sucky thing will they do to her next? <_<
Winry, however, has such a vibrant personality. She's not into being girly with the jewelry and the hair and the men. No, she likes to get gritty with automail and other technical things. She's inquisitive and curious by always wanting to know how stuff works. She has a unique outlook on life. I've said it once and I'll say it again that she has set Ed up with top of the line automail that has saved his arse time and time again. And yet she still keeps working for his sake to make it even better. She's very intelligent and talented like Ed is for their age. She still hurts herself too:
In the manga, she has a complete breakdown when she sees the murderer (Scar) of her parents. She wants to shoot him, but doesn't. At that moment, I felt so bad for her. Part of my sympathy had to have come from her character bringing something to the table for me to enjoy.
She also had to deal with this issue in the anime. She learns that Roy was the one who killed her parents, yet she still found it in her heart to truly understand the situation and forgive him because she realized that Roy really was a good person who just did what he had to do. To be able to forgive someone for that at ANY age (especially a young and confusing age) is admirable in itself. Say what you want, but that proved to me that her incredible strength.
When bad events happened to Rose, I didn't feel this way at all. I mean, I knew that it sucked, but I didn't care. I wanted to move on and see what else was going to happen next with the rest of the bunch.
I do agree that manga Winry is better than anime Winry, but you can still eek out enough great things with anime Winry too.
I agree with everything you just said since I'm a huge Royai fan just like you.
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Hmm...so very hard. I choose Rose, she has been through much more than Winry, and it was very unfortunate that she got Raped and pregnant and she didn't wanted that. Winry x Ed is fine with me, but it's sort of like sister and brother.
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I picked Rose, but I realize now after re-reading the title and actually getting the meaning behind the question... that I can't answer it. They each have their own set of character flaws, strengths, weaknesess, etc, so it's impossible for me to say who is better. Also, it wouldn't be very fair, since I'm of the opinion Rose isn't as fleshed out as opposed to Winry.
In any case, I did in the end choose Rose (Roze, what have you) because of her weaknesess - it's a way I identitfy her with myself. The way she clung to her believes, thinking and hoping her boyfriend would really come back to her in the end... Well, it's actually the same with me and my Mother. Rose asked or rather demanded Ed what right he had to steal the hopes and dreams from her and her people. She was happy to believe in them, as long as she did, she wouldn't be crushed by the sadness of her loss.
I felt the same way when I heard about Mom and the diagnosis of her cancer and the moment she told me I wished to God she hadn't. Because it hurt immensely. I didn't want to know she was going to die or lose the ability to walk or any of that. I just wanted to be able to believe she was only temporarily unable to walk. That she had back problems and would be up and about in a matter of weeks or even days. That I would just have my Mom back...
It may seem selfish and naive to think that way and maybe it is. But that's what I felt. If I didn't know and believed, it would be alright. And you know, I still think that way sometimes.
But Rose, she pulled her way through, took Ed and Al's words to heart. She suffered throughout the show but came out stronger and wiser in the end. With the help of Ed and others, she did. And I guess I wish it would be the same with me. Whatever happens after this, I want to pull through, to show Mom, Dad and everybody that I can.
And now I've got a headache. I'll have to edit this for typos later, I think.
Funny how talking about one character can make you so emotional.
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I would have to go with Winry... i love her personality (at least in the manga, haven't seen much of the anime yet ^^;...) she makes me smile... i also love the relationship she has with Ed and Al As for Rose, i do like her hair and her determination/love for her boyfriend but at times she got on my nerves a little for some reason... not sure why... hm...
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why so many pic winry? i picked rose
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QUOTE(Robo-Mechanic @ Jul 20 2005, 05:14 AM)
why so many pic winry? i picked rose
Read the thread to see some reasons. Same goes for Rose.
Also, Winry gets much more screen time and is more of a main character than Rose. It's similar to how Ed has more fans than Roy. Ed's the central character who gets the most screen time and has more of a chance to make himself near and dear to the heart.
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I like Winry the best. She was the most interesting and brought the most to the story plus she had a good personality. Rose never did anything for me except for the cool hair.
And I am soooooo sick of all the Ed fangirls calling her a slut because she wears a tube top while she works. It's because the sleaves of her mechanics suit would get in the way and probably because she gets hot. Mechanic suits hold alot of heat believe me I know. Besides, who is she showing off to? Pinako?
^yup and I like both, but I much perfer Winry and even if she did date/sleep with Ed that wouldn't make her a slut. Rember sex does not=slutty. Until she goes out with Al, Ling, Roy, Scar, AND Ed(at the same time ) I don't wanna hear those nasty comments.
I can't really imagine her with anyone but Ed and possibly Ling.