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About Bradley.., SPOILERS
MaesHughes33
post Aug 29 2004, 06:28 AM
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OKay, if Homunculus take the shape of the person the alchemist tried to revive, does that mean that Fuherer Bradley was killed, and somebody tried to revive him as the Fuherer, and if they did, did that mean that the original Fuehrer was murdered??


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post Aug 29 2004, 06:32 AM
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hmm.. i don't think he necessarily has to be a fuherer in his previous life


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post Aug 29 2004, 06:53 AM
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yeah, its seems like he is a homunculus which ages... so he became fuhrer later i guess...


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post Aug 29 2004, 07:04 AM
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Havoc said that ever since the current Furher arrived, they've always been at war.
so he was already a homunculus when he bacame the Fuhrer


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post Aug 29 2004, 08:18 AM
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Yepp he was Homunculus when he became Fuhrer... who tried to revive him or who he was will probably come soon... not for sure but not impossible
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post Aug 29 2004, 08:21 AM
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Dante created both Greed and Pride, Envy told us that in the latest episode(along witht he fact that Hoenheim created Envy).


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post Aug 29 2004, 09:10 AM
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Yes, so Pride is fantastically old, at least several centuries. He'll probably have to "retire" as Fuhrer fairly soon to avoid drawing suspicion of his "long-lasting youth."
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post Aug 29 2004, 09:25 AM
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Well... in episode 47, Dante says that she created Bradley to age at the same rate as humans...

Since Greed knows Pride, Bradley is the image of a 130+ year old human? blink.gif
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post Aug 29 2004, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(Guest @ Aug 29 2004, 04:25 PM)
Well... in episode 47, Dante says that she created Bradley to age at the same rate as humans...

Since Greed knows Pride, Bradley is the image of a 130+ year old human?  blink.gif

Doh! I meant episode 46 tongue.gif
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post Aug 29 2004, 11:14 AM
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You have to remember that the Homunculi aren't really immortal. They get 'replaced' every once in a while. My theory is that in Pride's case, he was only created as a Homunculus about 15-20 years prior in an attempt to resurrect a dead soldier. He was 'fed' by Dante, and directed to get back into the army. He rose through the ranks very quickly thanks to his 'ultimate eye' and became the commander-in-chief.

As to how Greed knew of Pride, it could be one of two things:
a) The previous 'Pride' was also in the army and helped seal Greed up 130 years prior.
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cool.gif We saw in the new episode how even when immobilized by their jakuten, homunculi still had all their senses present, and could see/hear/feel/smell what was going on around them. So while he was sealed up in the 5th Lab, Greed probably got occasonal visits from Pride and Envy to check up on him, and also overheard some of their conversations, including when they talked about tailing the Elric brothers, etc.

The second explanation seems more likely at this point.


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post Aug 29 2004, 11:52 AM
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geez... the anime sure messed up the homonculous theory... i don't really care about them anymore.

the manga definitely has better explanations for Bradley and shocking truths behind the homonculi...

here's another question: ed and co. found wrath in the deserted island where Izumi performed the human transmutation years ago, right? he only got out of the gate when he acquired Ed's leg and arm... so, how did sloth get out of the gate and isn't she supposed to be in rizenpool if she did? how did she come to Dante's grasp?

lemme get this straight first, though... Dante used Roze's kid to see if she could open the gate from it... so that meant she didn't know how to open the gate before? how did she get a hold of sloth, whom she didn't create, if she didn't know how to open the gate around that time when sloth was supposedly created?

note: i haven't seen ep 46


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post Aug 29 2004, 12:04 PM
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Since Envy found Wrath so fast I believe that the homunculus can somehow sense one another.

So if thats true Sloth was created when Al and Ed tried to res their mother. So, Sloth formed there probably when Al took Ed to Winry's house. So Sloth could have been in their house the entire time and Envy could have retrieved her while Ed was unconcious.


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post Aug 29 2004, 12:41 PM
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Actually... Lust recovered Sloth after the failed transmutation...

Well, that would be the most likely. Lust said she was there (in episode 19-21; can't remember which one) when Ed and Al burned down their house. Therefore, she had probably been spying on them for a while.


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here's another question: ed and co. found wrath in the deserted island where Izumi performed the human transmutation years ago, right? he only got out of the gate when he acquired Ed's leg and arm... so, how did sloth get out of the gate and isn't she supposed to be in rizenpool if she did? how did she come to Dante's grasp?

Sloth was never stuck on the other side of the gate. Wrath was only there because after Izumi found out what she had created, she went back to the gate and put it on the other side.
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post Aug 29 2004, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Chibi Viki @ Aug 29 2004, 06:52 PM)
geez... the anime sure messed up the homonculous theory... i don't really care about them anymore. 

the manga definitely has better explanations for Bradley and shocking truths behind the homonculi...

Not really. You just have to use your brain more to figure out what's going on in the anime.


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