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FMA Manga-anime Differences? How Well Are FMA Anime And FMA Manga Correlated?, SPOILERS inside!
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fyleow
post Mar 31 2005, 11:47 AM
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ETA: 12/23/06 by Tombow

For FMA anime fans who are wondering how FMA anime story line is carried over in FMA manga:

FMA manga has very, very, VERY different story line from FMA anime.
It was more or less similar during the first season of FMA anime, but during the second season, FMA anime story line went far different from FMA manga.
I mean, UTTERLY, COMPLETELY, TOTALLY different way.

As Reika and RocketJess and mommaG and others have posted on this thread, FMA manga started first, but the anime was made before a lot of the manga had been released. And, following the Manga version of FMA storyline faithfully would have meant not animating it until the manga was actually written .... When they started the animation project, there were only 2 volumes out, and many later scenes were based on what Arakawa-sensai told them she was planning to write, according to the interview with the director in a recent Newtype USA.

*The first chapter of the FMA manga was published in Shounen Gangan in 2001 and one chapter every month thereafter (at this current moment, up to chapter 48).

*The first episode of the anime was aired over Japanese TV in 2003. At that point in time, the manga was dealing with its Devil's Nest arc.

So the anime quickly got ahead of the manga and they made up their own story, using a mixture of Arakawa's plans and their own ideas. Anime starts at manga volume 2 and started separating somewhere between manga volume 4-5, and there's not much of anything coincident from episode 37 on.

By the time FMA anime has completed with the FMA "Shambara" movie, FMA anime and FMA manga were not even in the same world!! mellow.gif

Basically, by now it's safe to say FMA manga is a different story altogether from FMA anime. smile.gif

Spoiler Alert!!! biggrin.gif

Besides THE MAJOR story differences of "the other world" FMA anime story line NEVER HAPPENS in FMA manga, there are smaller anime/manga differences. And, some of them are listed below.


The following is a partial list of FMA manga/anime differences, posted by Nepharski on Oct. 13, 2005. (Since then lot more differences have emerged, but these still hold true in most parts. Though, I edited and added few extras here. You can find Nepharski's post with the original list on page 4, post #51 of this thread.)
  • Furher King Bradley is Wrath, not Pride. Pride is still unknown in manga. The Kid known as Wrath in anime does not exist in manga.
  • Sloth is not the product from Trisha. Sloth is a huge male monster in manga.
  • Frank Archer does not exist.
  • Kimbley is still incarcerated. Appears only in Scar's flashbacks and at the destruction of Lab 5. (ETA: Later gets released and goes to North and blah blah.)
  • Yoki lives now as Scars "Servant."
  • Fletcher and Russel Trigum do not exist in the manga.
  • Greed was never trapped in Lab 5 in the manga.
  • Basque Grand has not yet appeared in the manga, if ever. He is supposedly dead from the start.
  • Shou Tucker is killed by Scar right after his experiment is discovered. He does not get transformed into a chimera.
  • Scar killed Winry's parents.
  • Dante does not exist in the manga.
  • Ling, Mei, RanFan, & fellow Xingians do not appear in Anime.
  • Homonuculi are created artificial humans in the manga, NOT failed human transmutation side-effects.
  • Homonuculi can only be destroyed via the stated biblical/inferno punishment for each of their respective sins.
  • Homonuculi are created by someone known as The Father.
  • The Psiren and Other Brothers Elric parts do not exist in the Manga.
  • Number 48's head is killed by Lust and body killed by Envy, both before they can reveal the truth to Edward.
  • Barry's true manga body is nothing like his anime body, and is revealed after the fact, not before. Also, Barry plays more significant role in manga.
  • Maria Ross is used as a scapegoat, accused of murder, then escapes to Xing with Mustang and others' help.
And, the following is FMA manga/anime timelines put together by our THE FMA manga expert csakuras and posted on LiveJournal, but since you have to be a member to see that content, I repost it here. (Hope that's ok with csakuras. happy.gif)

Anime Timeline
1899- Edward & Winry are born
1900- Alphonse is born
1902- Hohenheim leaves
1905- Ed & Al's first transmutation (Ed: 6 yrs old, Al: 5 yrs old)
1907- Rockbells killed (Ed: 8, Al: 7)
1909- Trisha dies (Ed: 10, Al: 9)
Apprenticeship with Izumi
1910- February, Failed transmutation (Ed: 11, Al: 10)
February-October, Automail surgery & rehabilitation
October 3rd, Ed & Al burn their house and leave Resembool
1911- State Alchemist exam passed (Ed: 12, Al: 11)
1914- Present Day (Ed: 15, Al: 14)

Manga Timeline
1899- Edward & Winry are born
1900- Alphonse is born
1904- Hohenheim leaves
Ed & Al start doing alchemy (Ed: 5, Al: 4)
Trisha dies
1908- Rockbells are killed
Summer, apprenticeship with Izumi (Ed: 9, Al: 8)
Winter, Ed & Al return to Resembool
1910- Failed transmutation (Ed: 11, Al: 10)
Automail surgery & rehabilitation (takes aprox. 1 year)
1911- October, State Alchemist exam passed (Ed: 12, Al: 11)
October 3rd, Ed & Al burn their house and leave Resembool
1914- Present Day (Ed: 15, Al: 14)



<Thanks, fyleow for letting me share your post space!! ^^ ~Tombow >
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<The following is fyleow's original post. ^^>


I just finished watching the anime and I was wondering how well the manga for FMA and the anime match up. The ending of the anime felt rushed but that's expected since the manga is still ongoing. I was just wondering if the anime's ending is what the author intended or one that's created to end the anime?
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post Mar 31 2005, 12:40 PM
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The anime and manga start to drift off in seperate ways around episode 30 or so. Maybe even earlier, b/c the story with Izumi is slightly different then it is in the manga. I don't think the manga artist intends to end the manga that way so the ending was created for the anime.


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post Mar 31 2005, 03:57 PM
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acutally the Manga and Anime are nothing alike. they are similar but they have alot of a different story. especially past episode 20, the manga starts out with ed as a State Alchemist when hes on the train. but the anime flashes back and hes not one while on the train in the anime.


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post Mar 31 2005, 04:33 PM
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Yeah, some differences between the anime and manga really bugged me for awhile (like how they left out one of my favorite book characters in the anime)
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post Mar 31 2005, 04:37 PM
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*nods* i very much so love the Manga more than the Anime, and also i hope it has a different ending.... and by the way its looking now, it may have a REALLY different ending.


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post Mar 31 2005, 04:51 PM
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I especially hate how they changed Lusts death in the anime. It was so cool in the book, and it really gave you a Roy/Riza moment
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post Mar 31 2005, 06:50 PM
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through so spoiler tags around that will ya? and i totally agree i loved that part of the manga happy.gif *points*


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post Mar 31 2005, 09:56 PM
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The FMA anime and manga are really, REALLY different. There are whole plot arcs and characters that don't exist. Details on the world and how it works and background info are altered. And from the looks of it, there is no doubt that the ending will be completely different.


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post Mar 31 2005, 10:38 PM
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The manga normally comes first and hence is always better. My sister absoulutely refuses to read it because she calls it a spoiler for the anime.

I'm disappointed that key parts were changed and that a lot of good stuff was cut out.


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tell your sister that if she has been watching the Dub then the Manga wont spoil ANYTHING for her.... because basically from here the Manga goes one way and the Anime another.... actually they do from the begining


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I find it odd that it can differ by so much, especially given the popularity of the TV series. It's interesting how the anime can change the orignal story so much. I know a lot of anime doesn't follow the manga because it had to end before the series was completed, but for most of those it's an incomplete or abrupt ending. The FMA anime changed things so much and maintained it's popularity.

I wonder if the author has any say in how the anime ended up going. It would be interesting to see how the end of the manga compared to the upcoming movie....
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well i must totally agree with Guest on all of the Points he mad. and oh about Lab #5 i like the manga version MUCH BETTER.... oh wait... its almost EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!


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[quote]That's the typical "evil mastermind" plot that goes for thousands of such films and shounen series[/quote]
Uh, I guess the manga is _much_ better with Hohenheim being the main bastard and all? Yeah, right, Hohenheim or Dante, big difference now.
[quote]The Ishbal story hasn't been fully explored yet but only touched on here and there in the manga which is still going on.[/quote]
I rather doubt there would be some ties to the main plot with Ishbal in the manga. Oh, whatever, it's still going on.
[quote]Scar doesn't have a brother in the manga? That makes Scar's master a liar at the start of Volume 7 by your words.[/quote]
Sorry. Missed on this one. Yeah, my fault. I do read the manga, but some things just slip. His brother did not play any major role in the manga whatsoever.
[quote]Yeah right, having Scar's arm being a stone is so wonderful[/quote]
Having a decomposing array for no plot meaning is better? So what does this "Scar" do in the manga? Clean up after Ed's adventures and have some battles with alchemists? Yeah, I guess, that's a big deal for the plot.
[quote]Homunculus with their super powers in the anime wants to be weak humans. Humans are great.[/quote]
You're being silly. Read the Greed dialogue with Al in the manga. Al doesn't want to be an eternal armor suit, doesn't he? So what's the point in making him a "weak human"? I guess you just didn't catch that. And I guess Edward has to make his whole body encased in auto-mail, since he's gonna be much powerful that way!
[quote]Not everything thinks like humans or even wants to be human, especially if they are more powerful than a human.[/quote]
Super-powered villains without any troubles are silly.
[quote]Then they have to drag out the Nina story until it becomes from a sad touching tale into something that is too long drawn.[/quote]
A matter of taste. Having Scar "clean up" for Edward's sad little adventure with Tucker&Nina is better in no way (except the way that Tucker got death in the end). But was that really better?
[quote]Explain why Roy knowing that the Fuhrer is a homunculus, choose to lock himself up in a small room with the Fuhrer without any methods to kill him off.[/quote]
What exactly did Roy know of Homuculus and how to kill them? Did Edward tell him how to do it? And did he have a choice anyway? I think Roy intended to have revenge for Hughes.. that is, to blow everything up, including the Fuhrer. Just listen what he says about abandoning his "goal" for revenge.
[quote]Why Hughes being a smart guy knowingly chose to go into a trap without a backup or even telling anyone[/quote]
Did Hughes not get into the same situation in the manga? Or am I wrong, I read that chapter quite a while ago?
[quote]How is it that if equivalent trade is wrong, Ed still has to trade off his arm[/quote]
The question is, IS equivalent trade wrong. All I heard was some philosophical blah-blah on the matter. They still had to trade off.
[quote]Why do the homunculus all react so differently to their supposed weakness, especially Lust who changes the way she reacts to her weakness every time the locket shows up[/quote]
That moment with Lust (throwing it away) bogged me too. But the reaction is the same in most cases - they get incapacitated, weak, and can barely move.
[quote]Again is being the leader of a country showing off the sin of pride?[/quote]
Being a Fuhrer in a military dictatorship. Don't twist things round. Bradley is something like Hitler.
[quote]In the manga, we know they are created for the seven Sins.[/quote]
Yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. So who does Envy envy? Is Lust related to lust in any way? What's up with Sloth, was he just lazy or something? And is Bradley really wrathful or something? They don't fit at all, except Gluttony.
[quote]Have you even read the chapter where Roy's gang is fighting Envy and Gluttony?![/quote]
Which chapter is it? The last one I read was 44 I think. So does Pride take any action, and is he connected to pride in any way?
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Hmm... you annoy me. But I can't come up with a coherent rebuttal at the moment. I'll get back to you after I get some sleep.

Arakawa-sensei deserves more credit than you seem to think, though.


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Uh, I guess the manga is _much_ better with Hohenheim being the main bastard and all? Yeah, right, Hohenheim or Dante, big difference now.

We don't know that Hohenheim is the Father yet. We just know that he looks like him. And in my opinion it seems almost TOO obvious for it to be true...

I rather doubt there would be some ties to the main plot with Ishbal in the manga. Oh, whatever, it's still going on.

Well we've barely gotten into the Ishbal plot yet. It SHOULD have ties to the main plot, because of what happened with the military and the Philosopher's Stone there, not to mention Scar's origins. You can't just write it all off because it hasn't happened yet.

Sorry. Missed on this one. Yeah, my fault. I do read the manga, but some things just slip. His brother did not play any major role in the manga whatsoever.

Like I said, we don't KNOW that yet. We do know that Scar's brother is the reason why he has the arm, and that he's dead, and that he learned alchemy. From what we've seen so far, Scar's past in the manga could turn out almost exactly the way it is in the anime.

Having a decomposing array for no plot meaning is better? So what does this "Scar" do in the manga? Clean up after Ed's adventures and have some battles with alchemists? Yeah, I guess, that's a big deal for the plot.

Scar has barely been in the manga so far because of other plot arcs. Now he's BACK and has apparently killed Winry's parents and he's in the same city where Kimblee (who has some tie to his past) is being held captive while the military is in chaos. I'd say he has plently to do from now on. And Mei recognized his tattoo; it holds some significance.

You're being silly. Read the Greed dialogue with Al in the manga. Al doesn't want to be an eternal armor suit, doesn't he? So what's the point in making him a "weak human"? I guess you just didn't catch that. And I guess Edward has to make his whole body encased in auto-mail, since he's gonna be much powerful that way!

In the manga, humanity is important for Al. Not so with the homunculii. They look down upon humans because they see themselves as superior beings, and work for their Father for an unknown purpose. Whether this is better or worse is a matter of opinion, but I thought it was a bit weird that in the anime, the homunculii wanted to become what they detest. And I don't understand your Ed-encasing-his-body-in-automail comment. O_o

Super-powered villains without any troubles are silly.

I guess I do agree with that. The homunculii in the anime were made to be complex, three dimensional characters (despite lacking a soul). We haven't seen as much of that in the manga yet.

What exactly did Roy know of Homuculus and how to kill them? Did Edward tell him how to do it? And did he have a choice anyway? I think Roy intended to have revenge for Hughes.. that is, to blow everything up, including the Fuhrer. Just listen what he says about abandoning his "goal" for revenge.

I didn't think that made much sense after the whole "he's an adult because he puts his goal before personal feelings" speech in episode 44. After going through all that, he throws down everything to go kill an (for all he knew) immortal monster. It seemed like an excuse to end the show with a bang.

Did Hughes not get into the same situation in the manga? Or am I wrong, I read that chapter quite a while ago?

In the manga, Hughes was in the middle of investigating when suddenly Lust comes to attack. In the anime, he knowingly followed Juliet Douglas into a trap.

Yeah, I guess that's pretty much it. So who does Envy envy? Is Lust related to lust in any way? What's up with Sloth, was he just lazy or something? And is Bradley really wrathful or something? They don't fit at all, except Gluttony.

Lust seduces people (Havoc, attempts to get to Roy). It's been said that Sloth has to be chained up or else he won't do any work. And Wrath looks really angry when he's fighting, but other than that I don't get him either.
As for Envy, it seems he is very self conscious about his "true form", judging from how he reacted to Greed's insults. It's been hinted that he is somehow inferior to the other homunculii (possibly he's one of the eldest, so he's not made as well?). And he doesn't seem to be very powerful without his shape-shifting abilities, unlike the anime. Of course we haven't seen the whole story, but I think "Envy" suits him pretty well.

Which chapter is it? The last one I read was 44 I think. So does Pride take any action, and is he connected to pride in any way?

All we've seen of Pride so far is his voice?/thoughts? calling Envy and Gluttony back from their fight. We don't know much else about him/her yet. In fact there's been very little development for any of the homunculii and their origins, so there's not much we can say.

I think the key to this debate is that the anime is, for the most part, over, while the manga still has a lot to get into and reveal. I'd guess that it's only about 1/3 way into the story. So not many things can be comparable as it is right now.


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