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Episode 20 Discussion, Soul Of The Guardian
TheVileOne
post Mar 25 2005, 11:20 PM
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Alright, I made sure to get the episode number right this time!

This is a great, action-packed episode as Ed is determined to find the secrets of the 5th Laboratory, but he has to get past the guard first...who happens to b a soul attached to armor just like Al. Ed's got a bit of a handicap though since his auto-mail is starting to malfunction since that dumb baka Winry didn't finish the job in episode 17!

Meanwhile Al is dealing with the other troublesome guard...who kinda sounded...familiar... wink.gif wink.gif wink.gif


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post Mar 26 2005, 09:02 PM
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I know who it is but i won't tell. biggrin.gif *ducktapes mouth shut*


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post Mar 26 2005, 10:01 PM
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Great, more action based episode this week. Though there was a real noticeable <censored for the kiddies>-up on the part of the English dub this week. So even though I enjoy the English dub, I'm not going to deny when they do screw-up.

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post Mar 26 2005, 10:07 PM
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Good episode. Did notice some totally made up dialogue in some parts that were not in original version or dialogue that was completly changed, but anyway I did enjoy the episode.


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post Mar 26 2005, 10:29 PM
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Great, more action based episode this week. Though there was a real noticeable <censored for the kiddies>-up on the part of the English dub this week. So even though I enjoy the English dub, I'm not going to deny when they do screw-up.


Well I have to admit I am shocked smile.gif. What was the screw up? Was it something with the Barry/Al scenes. I felt there was sometthing missing when Al revealed to Barry that he was like him.


This defintely ranks up there with one of my favorite episodes. Very well done. Ed's performance as always was top notch. Al did really well with the angsty parts in the second half and Barry was absolutely wonderful. Slicers' VAs weren't my favorite but the fight made up for that. Overall I don't have any complaints, except some lines were spoken a little too fast.

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post Mar 26 2005, 10:43 PM
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Barry's still as messed up, but serves as comedic relief. It's a shame he didn't get the same treatment in the manga, he was an riot.

But speaking old friends, next week marks the return of another lunatic the Elrics met & will see for episodes to come. Only this guy is more messed up than crazy Barry in terms of body AND mind.
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post Mar 26 2005, 11:11 PM
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QUOTE(Kirara @ Mar 27 2005, 05:29 AM)
Well I have to admit I am shocked . What was the screw up? Was it something with the Barry/Al scenes. I felt there was sometthing missing when Al revealed to Barry that he was like him.


When Barry was talking to Al and Barry was talking about why he should be scared of him. During the conversation, Al removes his helmet to show that he has is a soul attached to a suit of armor as well. They changed it to where Barry isn't screaming and shocked because of the way he sees Al. It just came off as very awkward.


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post Mar 27 2005, 08:58 AM
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I noticed that...but it seemed kind of comical and WTF, imo. Also, Al seemed a little over exagerated when Barry told him his momories were fake. I guess it would make sense, but it sounds exagerated still. As for guard, the two brothers, I think they should've just said "brother" instead of "older brother" "younger brother" etc. It works in Japanese, but not much in English. *nodd* Still liked it
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[SPOILER] In the manga, Envy and Lust show up and kill Slicer before he tells Ed something important about the Philosopher's Stone.....Maybe that will happen in the next episode.[/SPOILER]

I thought it was okay, could've been better. I was hoping for an appearance from Scar.


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post Mar 27 2005, 03:45 PM
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The guy who voiced Al, wasn't really good. Thought it could be better, sounded err, 'stale'..
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post Mar 27 2005, 06:35 PM
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This episode was pretty interesting, and now that I go back and watch the part where Al shows Barry that he's hollow, it does look like a dubbing mistake. However, I noticed something that Ed said, about tuning the iron in the blood to match the armor's. Didn't Ed use his own blood to bind Al's soul? So wouldn't that me he had attuned his own soul to the armor and not Al's?

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post Mar 27 2005, 07:59 PM
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i rarely have time to watch the english episodes b/c of schoolwork. But I watched this episode b/c i love the part with al and barry. this of course didn't happen in the dub so when al lifts off his helmet it makes no sense. actually... barry never really notices he is empty so then he suddenly knows al is empty. i was extremely disappointed. i also think the older/younger brother thing works on in japanese. yup... that's it. and I also decided winry sounds sooooo much older than ed (meaning ed is way too young sounding).
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The only part I didn't like was when "Berry the butcher " told Al all those things about his memories.
Ed wouldn't do that would he?

Oh and I hate seeing Ed get hurt. I cringed at several thoughts if he got hurt more than three times.

I was shocked to find that the guy Al was fighting was the same guy who tried to kill ed and Winry three years ago.


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post Mar 28 2005, 08:21 AM
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Sweet ep. this one goes in my favs list.
But the ppl that conpare the original to the dubs..i see why you guys rag on the dubs mistakes..cuz you see the original as the right way it was made and it is.
But for ppl like me who have only seen the dubs and not the original
i see the dubs as the way they were made ..i know there not but thats how i see it
and I dont know why they would cut parts out of the eps. that seem wrong and i hope they dont kill the story doing that.
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post Mar 28 2005, 08:28 AM
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No she did not! Poor Ed lost a lot of blood, he is lucky to be alive. He attacked Slicers body at the last minute. NO 66 is screwed up. Barry the Chopper?? He is not the biggest threat to Al however.


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