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Lyla's Body - In Episode 44
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post Aug 12 2004, 08:43 AM
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Since Lyra and the Hohemheim are switching bodies (just a theory), since they may sacrifice their last bodies, this probably allows them to see more from the gates, thus more of the "Truth". As seen in Ep 44, both do not require to touch a surface after clapping, nor is a transmutation circle visible afterwards. I'm kind of curious of whether or not after every time you transmute your soul, the more of the "Truth" you obtain. XD
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post Aug 12 2004, 07:03 PM
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If Dante was really after the P.stone, why did she tell the Elric bros that the thang isn't somethings that's worth chasing... UNLESS SHE'S A BLOODY LIAR! Of course it wouldn't take much to convince me that she is.

Also how come Dante taught the "sensei" stuff? Did Dante just want Sensei to make another homo for her army of homos?

Any opinion on who made pride, envy, or fatty?
Lust - Ishbars
Wrath - Sensei
Sloth - Elrics
Greed - Dante
Pride - ????
Envy - ????
Fatboy (gluttony) - ????
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post Aug 13 2004, 08:55 AM
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Pride, we might know about him in ep45.
I hope Roy doesn't get killed by Pride.

Envy, Many people believe that Hoenheim might be the one who made him, but I do not believe Hoenheim is the one.

Gluttony, haha, I want to see who would like to revive a dude only eats. most of homuculus came back in better form like Lust and Sloth. smile.gif
I do not want to see Gluttony when he was human.
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post Aug 13 2004, 01:52 PM
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Hopefully we will get a quick story of all the remaining sins in ep 45. In ep 45, they are supposedly going to talk about the creation of the Philospher's stone 400 years ago and talk about the gate. There has to be some talk about Homunculi in there.
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post Aug 13 2004, 02:47 PM
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Thanks you Odoridan for info.
Maybe, Al's case is somekind of miracle compared to 400 years ago.

Even though they figure out creating Philosopher's stone similar Al's case, No one would want one person to have a huge amount of power. Who knows?
I think we will know soon.
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post Aug 13 2004, 10:03 PM
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dante seems kinda gay to be "that person" i suspected "that person" to be a badass cool looking guy! BUT WTF! if dante is "that person then i'll be upset sad.gif dry.gif

And why would Dante if she is"that person" want to keep edward alive for?? Unless she wants to steal his body? If she wants edward to make the philosipher's stone why not she make it herself since she can use alchemy blink.gif


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post Aug 13 2004, 10:12 PM
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Dante is defintely the evil one and I guess it's a change from the whole badass dude being the evil guy. And maybe her alchemy is limited. Her body is rotting and she said Hohenheim is reaching his limit and he said that also applies to her. Who knows, maybe she wants something more than a body. The gate is going to show up in the next episode.
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post Aug 14 2004, 10:10 AM
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Zechin, I hear you.
Unfortunately, Dante is the evil dude that rules over homuculus for some time.

I think Dante does not know what Hoenheim knows, and that is why Dante is in deep sh*t. But, funny thing is about Dante putting her own soul into Lyla's body. I mean, Hoenheim told Al that with P.Stone, Al can transfer his soul to another body. Is that mean Dante has P.Stone of her own. I think we should wait for next episode.
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post Aug 14 2004, 02:04 PM
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i dont believe that hohenheim said it took the p.stone to put your soul into another
body.

there once was a religion that believed in one god.
because of this a great number of them died.
"thats because ppl cant become gods" (lyra)


these ppl died in order to become gods.
perhaps they channeled themselfs into one body inorder to create a god and
thus creating dante and hohenheim.
but they simply created a leapfrog,jumping from one body to the next destroying it in the process.

they created a "fallen angel",if u ppl saw the movie "fallen" there was an angel that fell from grace and was forced to live inside ppl,shifting from body to body.

lyra said that ppl cant become gods ,because she tried to and failed.

+i believe hohenheim created pride(something in the op that had a paper talking about pride,plus men are full of pride)
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post Aug 14 2004, 02:20 PM
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i must add something.

first u do need the p.stone to switch bodies.

i dont think dante is the "that person".
she doesnt seem like a master ,but a henchmen.
she doesnt know why her body is rotting.
the way hohenheim is talking to her is like she is just some other tool,like the homunculi.
the way she says "my master"just seems that way.

i cant explain it more.

created gluttony-the sin means more than eating things.perhaps somone wanted more than he had,it is possible that gluttony tried to transmute himself to something and failed.
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post Aug 14 2004, 04:40 PM
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Dogbite, try to put them in one reply.

And, Watch latest episode, and observe conversation Al and Hoenheim.
Hoenheim told Al that he cannot regain his body with P Stone.
And, Hoenheim said, with P.Stone Al can move his soul to another body, and Al did not accept the idea about taking other people's body for himself.

Can anyone back me up here??
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post Aug 14 2004, 07:07 PM
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Hmmm I didnt catch that a l/ his daddy munchkins conversation come to think of it...ill have to look at it again. Btw was I the only one that thought that "that guy" was al and ed#s father the whole way through? But no Dante (as in "Dante's inferno", hell references) must be, and along with Honeheim of light being the evil/good "major powers" of the story line.

Plus story wise you cant introduce a big bad guy this late onto the story, you have to have met him before, and honeheim was the only other guy it could have been as hes already been talked about.
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post Aug 14 2004, 07:12 PM
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This is not manga story line.

This is anime story line.
It is different .
Dante is evil one.
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post Aug 14 2004, 09:56 PM
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I kinda agree with Andrew on the Dante part.
But dante got his/her assed wooped by hohenheim.. Maybe They want the P.stone to create a ultimate body so they can shift their soul's over to it huh.gif
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post Aug 15 2004, 12:38 AM
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Dante created greed, lyla was trained by Dante, Dante has now taken over Lyla's body
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