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Can boys and girls be interested in themes/games that only seem to fit to the opposite sex?
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Popogeejo
post Aug 2 2006, 09:24 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in reality shows and soaps (sod it, in general TV) they nearly always have a gay person, but never as many lesbians.


Thats TV though where moral values are overly stressed to stupid levels. It's just a more complex way of slamming "It's ok to be gay" into peoples heads.

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Guys go 'woo lesbo's' as they get to see two women do it, its not anything but that.


I still belive it's harder for guys to come out. I have nothing to back this up other than thats the genral vibe I get from people.


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post Aug 4 2006, 06:31 AM
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Yea fair points, but like you said TV is desperatly trying to convince people its okay for people to be gay. Society is trying to get people to accept it in some way. Lesbians are steroetyped, and frankly I see more men together in public then women.


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post Aug 4 2006, 02:12 PM
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I recently came upon a photographer (from Latvia. Whoo!) who put his thoughts like this (in the description of a photo that featured a guy with a pink stuffed bunny)

"Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots, because it's OK to be a boy,
but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading."


(He was kinda hot too)


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post Aug 4 2006, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(popogeejo @ Aug 2 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]428358[/snapback]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in reality shows and soaps (sod it, in general TV) they nearly always have a gay person, but never as many lesbians.


Thats TV though where moral values are overly stressed to stupid levels. It's just a more complex way of slamming "It's ok to be gay" into peoples heads.

I'd say it's more of an equal representation thing. They can't just fill the show with all white guys 18-35.


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post Aug 4 2006, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Aug 4 2006, 05:12 PM) [snapback]429028[/snapback]

I recently came upon a photographer (from Latvia. Whoo!) who put his thoughts like this (in the description of a photo that featured a guy with a pink stuffed bunny)

"Girls can wear jeans and cut their hair short, wear shirts and boots, because it's OK to be a boy,
but for a boy to look like a girl is degrading, because you think that being a girl is degrading."


(He was kinda hot too)



I use man faye as a counter example.

Short Skirts plus hair ......

http://site.man-faye.com/Portals/2/manfaye...nal%20color.jpg

i'd embed the cartoon...but it would make some little kid have nightmares...


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I'm not seeing your connection.

It's painful to see ugly people of either gender wear clothes they shouldn't. So...


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post Aug 5 2006, 03:32 AM
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QUOTE(AlphonseRules @ Aug 4 2006, 10:36 PM) [snapback]429034[/snapback]

QUOTE(popogeejo @ Aug 2 2006, 12:24 PM) [snapback]428358[/snapback]

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in reality shows and soaps (sod it, in general TV) they nearly always have a gay person, but never as many lesbians.


Thats TV though where moral values are overly stressed to stupid levels. It's just a more complex way of slamming "It's ok to be gay" into peoples heads.

I'd say it's more of an equal representation thing. They can't just fill the show with all white guys 18-35.


I don't quite see the connection sorry. Its not equal if they show gay men, but not lesbians right? And I don't think colour or age has anything to do with it


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hell yeah XD


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QUOTE(dahomunculi @ Aug 7 2006, 07:36 PM) [snapback]429906[/snapback]

hell yeah XD


What are you talking about?


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just about always having someone who is gay in soaps, it's mainly because when someone is gay, it is often more obvious then when someone is lesbian.


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Oh I don't know, when a girl starts kissing a girl she's either impressing a bloke or she's lesbian.

Actually I can remember a lesbian storyline in Neighbours, but not a gay one (mainly as one ofthe lesbians had my name >_<). But yes, when it comes to being overtly homosexual its stereotypicaly more obvious in males.


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well, mainly stereotypicaly because of television, but I have a second cousin, or something like that, who is lesbian and aside from the fact that she lives with her partner, most people wouldn't notice a thing.


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Actually I can remember a lesbian storyline in Neighbours


Teen lesbians no less. Best. Plot. Ever.


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I'm a tomboy all the way. I grew up with boys, and everywhere I go I'm considered "Just one of the guys."

I hate the mall, pink, dolls, caring about my looks, makeup, and anything girly.


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i grew up with two best friends, Brian and Emma, and I've had to do stuff with both of them, so I see no problem in guys doing "girl stuff" and girls doing "guy stuff".


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