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Additional Conversation By Envy And Greed (spoiler), Shed Light to Greed's past
Sycia
post Jan 2 2005, 07:36 AM
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At the recent Fullmetal Alchemist Festival: Tales of Another, Tokyo, the seiyuus who were there performed live, some narration. Most of the parts done were segments already featured in the anime (like Maes's funeral, Ed & Roy's last conversation etc), but Envy had a special conversation with Greed that was never shown in the anime. Envy's seiyuu, Yamaguchi Mayumi was performing alone as Greed's seiyuu wasn't there (but there were the voice recordings to make up for it). Since there were a few people who expressed interest in the content of the conversation, I translated the script from the official event pamphlet.

Note: The following translation contains spoilers, so don't scroll down if you hate em. The English translations are at the bottom.



It hints very strongly that he's still alive (post episode 51) and that we might see him in the movie. Hmmmm....

P.S: The colors of the actual scan have been inverted for easier reading, if anyone's wondering about the authenticity...


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<span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>いずみ 「生きていれば、いつか命は尽きて、肉体は土に還り、
その上で草花を咲かせる。魂は想いと言う糧となり、人々の
心に生き続ける。世のあらゆる物は流れ、循環している。」
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post Jan 2 2005, 08:20 AM
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Thanks biggrin.gif


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post Jan 2 2005, 08:26 AM
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ph34r.gif Greed was her lover...? Ueh...

Regardless, thanks for the translations! wink.gif


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post Jan 2 2005, 08:31 AM
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: ) No problem. I was pretty surprised to hear that Greed was her lover before he died too. Well at least that explains why Dante has his bones...


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<span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>いずみ 「生きていれば、いつか命は尽きて、肉体は土に還り、
その上で草花を咲かせる。魂は想いと言う糧となり、人々の
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post Jan 2 2005, 09:18 AM
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biggrin.gif;; I thought he was her son... [Somehow] this squicks me~

But I'm happy to hear there's a better chance of seeing Envy re-appear in the Movie. X3 One part of me always believed he would, but then ll that talk about alchemy not being able to "survive" in the real world had me doubting more than ever~


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post Jan 2 2005, 09:29 AM
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T_T I would like Envy to come out again, but not looking like THAT... I like him better as how we know him *points to avatar*


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<span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>いずみ 「生きていれば、いつか命は尽きて、肉体は土に還り、
その上で草花を咲かせる。魂は想いと言う糧となり、人々の
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post Jan 2 2005, 10:52 AM
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ph34r.gif Well... we're still not sure if that's really Envy, right? (By God, I hope not tongue.gif) He also has black hair instead of his natural blond locks he should have had since he's technically Hohenheim's son. biggrin.gif;;


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Yep, it's still all speculation since BONES isn't letting anything else.

That guy's hair looks brown in the trailer, but in the article that I scanned, it looks black. o_O But what caught my eye was his goatie and sorta sideburns that kinda resemble Daddy Elric's...


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<span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>いずみ 「生きていれば、いつか命は尽きて、肉体は土に還り、
その上で草花を咲かせる。魂は想いと言う糧となり、人々の
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post Jan 2 2005, 04:21 PM
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I always thought Greed loved her when he was...that human. Lol. Always thought Envy made it, since he went through the gate and escaped the black things.
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A very nice conversation that reveals even more of their intentions. Wonderfully translated, Sycia. smile.gif


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When did this conversation take place? Looking through it, it doesn't fit in with any episode at all without causing more conflict with the original story. For example, the last paragraph says "Lust, Pride and Gluttony have disappeared, Wrath is still out there." indicating post-ep51 (but Gluttony is unaccounted for). Then where did Envy meet Greed (who's supposed to be dead)? If dead Homunculi go to beyond the Gate, then Lust and Pride should also be there as well and not "disappeared".

All in all, it just seems to be Bones trying to clean up all their mess from the anime but still not making it.
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post Jan 2 2005, 08:09 PM
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I thought the first part of the conversation took place on that island during the discovery of human!Wrath. That last bit seemed like a tiny independent monologue of Envy's right before (or after) he entered the Gate to seek out Hohenheim. biggrin.gif;; Of course, I could be mistaken.


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QUOTE(Guest @ Jan 3 2005, 12:09 PM)
When did this conversation take place? Looking through it, it doesn't fit in with any episode at all without causing more conflict with the original story. For example, the last paragraph says "Lust, Pride and Gluttony have disappeared, Wrath is still out there." indicating post-ep51 (but Gluttony is unaccounted for). Then where did Envy meet Greed (who's supposed to be dead)? If dead Homunculi go to beyond the Gate, then Lust and Pride should also be there as well and not "disappeared".

All in all, it just seems to be Bones trying to clean up all their mess from the anime but still not making it.

Seriously, I don't know. At the event, they simply used this conversation to represent the Homoculi factor of the series. As Kaseshi-chan said, the first part of the conversation could have been on the island where everyone's after Wrath because that's the ONLY place we can actually fit it into unless Greed and Envy met anytime after that before the former's demise (but not shown in the anime itself).

The last part, I guess is Envy reflecting back on what happened, post or in episode 51....

Still, it was an interesting bit. Even in the anime Greed is completely different from the manga equivalent.

Quistis: ^_^ Thanks.


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<span style='font-size:9pt;line-height:100%'>いずみ 「生きていれば、いつか命は尽きて、肉体は土に還り、
その上で草花を咲かせる。魂は想いと言う糧となり、人々の
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wow, that is very very very interesting. i think that perhaps since in Ep 51 envy passed through the gate, maybe that's how he met up with Greed. like how he was able to talk to Ed when they were standing in front of the gate maybe since he passed through, he could also talk with all the dead people who have passed through? ok, that didn't really make sense, but that's just some whack theory that i thought up..


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Greed was Dante's lover. Woah... this is going to take me awhile to get it into my brain. Why did Dante kill him then? I mean wouldn't she have some relationship with him even if he was a failure? I always thought she always really cared about (but hated at the same time) Ed's dad. Well she did have a lot of lovers. I guess Greed was important to her.


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