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post Apr 22 2011, 08:05 PM
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This is a designated discussion thread for Royai fans who'd like to discuss Hiromu Arakawa's comment on FMA manga artbook III and related discussions.

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post Jun 26 2011, 05:13 AM
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Ok, I really want to get this right, because I'm slightly unsure about the meaning of her comment in the artbook - Wasn't the rule against fraternization not just implied by Arakawa to be the reason for them not being together? Or did she really outright say "It's the only reason for them not getting married"
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post Jun 26 2011, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE (Sakuyahanabi @ Jun 26 2011, 09:13 AM) *
Ok, I really want to get this right, because I'm slightly unsure about the meaning of her comment in the artbook - Wasn't the rule against fraternization not just implied by Arakawa to be the reason for them not being together? Or did she really outright say "It's the only reason for them not getting married"

Actually, neither. She didn't implied that the fraternization rules were a reason for them not being together: she said that. Explicitly. But she never said it to be the only reason. It's just a reason. There may be others.

But, what we can take from what she said it that this reason is, probably, one of the most complicated/important or with the biggest repercussion, or she wouldn't have stated it as an answer to the question of them not being together... Let me explain it better:

If Arakawa really didn't think Roy and Riza as a romantic pair (whatever relationship status they might have, but "in love with eachother"), to state something as "I cannot marry them because the military regulations would make it impossible for them to remain commander and subordinate" would be a very poor choice of words.
She giving that as an answer does imply she considers them to be 'cannon', or she would have answered that differently, cause noone who thinks someone aren't a 'couple' would have come up with a 'reason' as such: it would be a lot simpler to just state "They don't like eachother that way" or something to that effect.

If she did answer the question like she did, it means she believes that this "reason" has grounds and importance... it has weight concerning the matter. Why would she mention military regulations for no reason? If she did, it means that the military regulations are "in the way" of the matter... If they weren't considered a couple, how can one have an "impediment" to something that doesn't exists?


In short, it's not to try to 'analyse' Arakawa's thoughts, but to state that: people always say things in a certain way for a logic reason, and noone would answer such a question like she did if they didn't thought them as 'romantic pair". It's just wouldn't make any sense to state such a thing without 'grounds'. So, we can be sure that THAT, not something else (as something like "they don't like eachother"), is a reason for the situation.


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