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How To Make The Philosopher's Stone, What you've all been waiting for...
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post Mar 15 2006, 12:37 AM
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It's funny... when I heard about the Philosopher's stone in fma, I thought it has something to do with Harry Potter, but anyway...
Did'nt alchemy originated in Medieval Times? I think it has something to do with making metals into gold and about the "elixir of life" or something...


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post Mar 15 2006, 12:56 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alchemy

All ya need to know aboot alchemy.


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post Mar 15 2006, 01:02 AM
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Wikipedia?
I should've thought of that!

Anyway, what I know about alchemy is right, somehow...
Arakawa is really creative on thinking about such things like the transmutation circles and alchemy because usually, the animes have japanese influeces or the plots and settings is at japan...


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post Mar 26 2006, 11:50 PM
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Don't have the time to read the whole thing, but if I remember right, the reddening phase of the stone requres a phoenix or something... too bad we don't have any of those...


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post Apr 22 2006, 03:06 PM
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Yah it is 2 bad that we don't have some of the important ingredients like a pheonix sad.gif but we do have most of them it wil just take alot of tmie to make and a lot of natural ingredients from the body ....


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post Jun 4 2006, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(eliss_music @ Aug 19 2005, 08:46 PM) [snapback]256060[/snapback]

Ok, I skimmed the posts here, I'm on short time.

Alchemy does exist (not in FMA terms).
The stone IS real. (I have seen one and even held it smile.gif )
The one I saw was a genuine philosispher's stone, I saw it work.
Nicolas Flemmel is a real person who created it, used it and is still kickin it somewhere on Earth (at least till they make space travle for every one tongue.gif )

If you don't belive in past lives, oh well, but I knew Flemmel and he showed me the stone and how it works. I once made one myself (My homunculus ate it...The third one anyway.)

Don't belive me, fine, if you do...great, let's talk.

Alchmey isn't an instanst answer-all, if it was we'd all use it inapropretly.

Alchemy teaches us patiants, detremination, skill, balance, nature, religion, history, math, science, philosisphy, psycology, chemology, geology, mineralology, spirituality, need I go on?

It's not for everyone and it's not easy (shortest done is in a less then 20 min. time span) but for those who are chosen by it (you never chose it)...it can be a wonderful and awakening expirance. My teacher proved that one to me.
No Flemmel wasn't my teacher.
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Alchemy, how it existed can be said two ways.

It existed but never worked or it never existed

The only way people would believe you is to see it with there own eyes or if they are complete idiots


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post Jun 10 2006, 08:45 AM
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From what I know about alchemy, I say that it did exist in earlier times. Many people were involved in this stuff, and the main idea of this Alchemy is to be able to fabricate gold out of other elements.

The philosopher's stone? oh come on. Who said it was real?


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post Jun 12 2006, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(hitokiri @ Dec 3 2004, 01:53 PM) [snapback]47095[/snapback]

<!--SPOILER BEGIN--><div onClick="openClose('f2693dc1925771678255c4a5cbc14131')">Spoiler: (Click here to Display)</div><div class="spoiler"><div id="f2693dc1925771678255c4a5cbc14131" style="display:none"><!--SPOILER END-->
where as al lost his body, and ed lost two limbs, scar's brother lost well.....mr. happy. yeah.... that's just not worth risk... tongue.gif
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About the Scar's brother thing in the spoiler.... where did it ever say that?
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post Jun 14 2006, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(telepika @ Dec 28 2004, 02:55 PM) [snapback]67591[/snapback]

@hitokiri: <!--SPOILER BEGIN--><div onClick="openClose('0551466056a1a01c84c620f13e37fb04')">Spoiler: (Click here to Display)</div><div class="spoiler"><div id="0551466056a1a01c84c620f13e37fb04" style="display:none"><!--SPOILER END-->Alchemists lose body parts only when attempting human transmutation. But then there were the legends that say all who pursue the philospher's stone suffer, but Dante made that up...<!--SPOILER DIV--></div></div><!--SPOILER DIV--> Hmmm... Try it anyway. Where's your adventurous spirit?

As for the article, I can see why alchemy was only practiced by the intelligent and gifted. Maybe I'll try and read it later...

Does that mean Im gifted or are you an idiot!!! biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 21 2006, 01:19 AM
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A bit much for a twelve-year-old who is rather gullible to swallow.

Gullible meaning I am in a phase that I believe in dragons.

No wonder everybody around me thinks I am insane.

Anyways, I might try alchemy in a few years.

It would make me feel like I'm magik when I'm only scientifical.


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QUOTE(Omakase Shimasu @ Nov 20 2004, 12:59 PM) [snapback]37887[/snapback]

Wow, very interesting, but confusing as all hell. @_@

Thanks for sharing though! biggrin.gif I'm gonna try reading this again in the morning. "Gold, Silver and Mercury", the power of three. It's always three.




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QUOTE(Guest @ Mar 22 2005, 04:08 PM) *
I have read some philospher stone story.
It help to transmutate metal into a gold or it could
even bring you to Immortal!

The first creator of The Philosopher Stone, was Nicholas Flamel.

in the FMA manga there was a transmutaion circle for the stone (that in my opinion looked like and inverted pentagram [symbol for the 5th element and human]) and when i was looking at web pages metioning Flamel i noticed that the black death was around the smae time as his 'death'. and then i connected the major cities and the right 2/3 of europe and found the same transmutation sircle used for the stone. so what if human sacrifces were used and put into the blood strms of peoplpe who had fallen ill under the death so that fragments would be spread around the entire continent? and after his death when a thief looked in his coffin for some of his famous and mysteious gold it was empty. please tell me what you think of this theory of mine.
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Cool link, but very confusing. I gave up after the first couple sentences, lol. tongue.gif


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yeah ..

making a philosopher's stone is really confusing ..
actually , I tried to watch FMA over and over again just to understand
that complicated stone but it's worthless ....

I end up dimbfounded


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post Jan 27 2010, 10:27 AM
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It's interesting, but so complicated that I can't understand.

I read a lot of books about alchemy, and I found in one of them (don't remember the name, sorry) that the Philosopher's Stone itself is impossible to be made, only similar stones.
But a really good answer about the Stone that I found is that it's unreal, it's only a metaphor to describe that state of real knowledge which some alchemists talk about.



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