HAGANE NO RENKINJUTSUSHI
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post Feb 2 2005, 03:46 PM
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That reminds me of

Onegai : please (when asking something, I believe)
Arigatou : thank you
Dozo : 'here you go' (when offering something)

Well, correct me if I'm wrong... I don't really know anything, but I adore my Japanese phrasebook biggrin.gif


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post Feb 3 2005, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(xrninja @ Jan 29 2005, 08:28 PM)
QUOTE(Phoenix_alchemist @ Jan 29 2005, 07:15 PM)
鋼 hagane (ha-ga-nei) Steel or 'fullmetal'
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and "fullmetal" is just the liberty studio BONES took in translating the title, as "fullmetal" would actually be something like "zenbu kinzoku no." so fullmetal only works in the "hagane no renkinjutsushi"-> fullmetal alchemist context.
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Actually, Arakawa-Sensei used the Engrish "Fullmetal" title in the manga. You can see it on the cover pages of them. (I have volume 1)


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post Feb 3 2005, 07:06 PM
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er, yeah, forgot to include that. hagane no renkinjutsushi with manga included.


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post Feb 3 2005, 07:53 PM
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Some of this is kinda reminding me of other forums where kids thought they knew Japanese from listening anime and sounding it out. sleep.gif;; That got some ridiculous conclusions. Sometimes fangirl Japanese gets to the point where it's not even worth correcting.

"Watashi skee desu!"
"So desnay!"
"Anata baka! (Ha, i bet u dont even kno wut i just said!1)"

While I'd encourage study of the Japanese language, I'd personally reccomend a book, a class, or at least a forum dedicated to the subject on which more qualified people post. Anime is a very poor way to learn the language. It can help with some speech issues, and help you find applications, but a basic grounding in the language would be wise.

Um, ignore me, if you wish. ::Retreats into shell::


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post Feb 5 2005, 10:20 PM
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eh? whats "watashi skee desu" mean?
er_ is "no" a possession thing? like your"'s" or something?


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post Feb 6 2005, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Feb 3 2005, 06:53 PM)
Some of this is kinda reminding me of other forums where kids thought they knew Japanese from listening anime and sounding it out.  sleep.gif;;  That got some ridiculous conclusions.  Sometimes fangirl Japanese gets to the point where it's not even worth correcting. 

"Watashi skee desu!"
"So desnay!"
"Anata baka! (Ha, i bet u dont even kno wut i just said!1)"

While I'd encourage study of the Japanese language, I'd personally reccomend a book, a class, or at least a forum dedicated to the subject on which more qualified people post.  Anime is a very poor way to learn the language. It can help with some speech issues, and help you find applications, but a basic grounding in the language would be wise.
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*groan* amen. i hate fangirl japanese with a vengeance and frequently have the urge to soundly beat users and abusers of it.

i also agree that anime is not a good foundation for your japanese knowledge. i've been taking japanese and school and the slang, intonation, and vocab i picked up from anime/manga have supplemented my japanese education a lot, but without prior basic knowledge of japanese, i wouldn't have been able to do much with what i picked up.
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eh? whats "watashi skee desu" mean?
er_ is "no" a possession thing? like your"'s" or something?
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pretty much.
"watashi no hon." "my book."
"edo no tanjoubi." "ed's birthday."
"kyou no tenki." "today's weather."

"watashi skee desu" in real japanese is "watashi [ga] suki desu," which means "i like [it]." the "skee" is just how it's pronounced, but some people hear the "skee" and assume it's spelled like that. hence the need for formal japanese education.


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post Feb 6 2005, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE(xrninja @ Feb 6 2005, 12:56 AM)
"watashi skee desu" in real japanese is "watashi [ga] suki desu," which means "i like [it]." the "skee" is just how it's pronounced, but some people hear the "skee" and assume it's spelled like that. hence the need for formal japanese education.
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Well, u's generally seem to almost drown in quickly spoken japanese, but not always.

And in more casual speech, you really could just drop the rest of the sentence and say "Suki desu", or even just "Suki". But it could also be interpreted wrong, since with the common abscence of pronouns and such, "Suki Desu" or "[I] Like" may be interpreted as "[I] like [you]".

So, a subject may be good, depending on what you're talking about and what's been mentioned already in conversationg. Real life example; giving Yuka's friend a birthday present, she gets a shamrock shaped bookmark, and she smiles and mentions, "Shamurokku o suki!" "I like shamrocks!".

Etc.

Then again, I'm very dumb in the ways of the language. Just a beginner.


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post Feb 6 2005, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(blueices @ Jan 29 2005, 08:55 PM)
Instead of doing something serious (like teaching actual grammar) I thought I'd teach random Japanese slang and epithets. laugh.gif
Some may actually be usefull.
(who needs pleasantries anyway???)...hehe

sukebege - lecherous face
futame to mirarenai - shocking, hideous (lit. can't look at twice)
kusottare-baba - s***** old goat
seibai wo shite kureru zo - I'll destroy you. happy.gif
kisama no baba wo yatchao - Screw your mother
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Lol I think this is gonna be useful when im pissed off lol thanks!! biggrin.gif


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post Feb 6 2005, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Feb 6 2005, 11:54 AM)
Well, u's generally seem to almost drown in quickly spoken japanese, but not always. 

And in more casual speech, you really could just drop the rest of the sentence and say "Suki desu", or even just "Suki".  But it could also be interpreted wrong, since with the common abscence of pronouns and such, "Suki Desu"  or "[I] Like" may be interpreted as "[I] like [you]". 

So, a subject may be good, depending on what you're talking about and what's been mentioned already in conversationg.  Real life example; giving Yuka's friend a birthday present, she gets a shamrock shaped bookmark, and she smiles and mentions, "Shamurokku o suki!" "I like shamrocks!". 
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yeah, i actually don't think i've ever just said "watashi suki desu." it's a little vague, so i usually go for "suki" or "suki desu," which is more to the point (depending on context), or something like "watashi wa sore ga suki desu," or "watashi wa taberu no ga suki desu." or just "taberu no/taberu koto suki!" tongue.gif


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post Feb 6 2005, 01:44 PM
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Wow, I'm envious.
Want to learn japanese, but I don't know if that is possible. sad.gif
Have to look that up.
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post Feb 6 2005, 08:27 PM
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Argh. I can't take it in school. THEY SHOULD MAKE IT A REQUIRED CLASS FOR PREP SCHOOLS! *continues to protest prep school ciriculum*

I also heard about a comp. program that teaches Jap. It was... weird though.

Any recommendations as to where I can go? I'm from that lame backwater "city" they're holding the Super Bowl at. dry.gif


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where's that?
<-- not a big fan of superbowl..or any sport..
jeez..i hope high school has japanese classes..or it will be the 4 biggest years wasted in my life _ _,,


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post Feb 7 2005, 03:26 PM
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Don't get your hopes up. The likeliness of Japanese course at a public High School is like... none. Ours has the basic French, German, Spanish, and for some unexplainable reason... Native Ojibwe. o.O?
I'm a Spanish 3 student currently. I see more need for knowledge in Spanish, as there is a huge hispanic immigrant population here. (I already make use of it. A newer friend of mine is from Paraguay, and although she speaks rather good English, our bilingual conversations usually get much more effective translation.)

If you can, it'd be best to go to a class, but then again, I, the immortal hippocryte have not. I've done a little study on the internet, but I mostly go on books from the library (You'd be surprised what you'll find, even in a hick town), plus, My cousin lives in Japan, and visiting him was a big help in my language skills. I'm still a major moron, especially when it comes to writing (Kanji... eep!) or grammar, but I've been told I have good pronounciation.

What I'd highly reccomend learning first, is the basic Japanese alphabet, so you know exactly what they can and cannot pronounce. You don't need to memorize the Japanese kana, just the sounds, so to prevent mispellings and subsequent mispronounciations, and the like. Back in middle school, predating my larger interest in learning Japanese and such, I had a 'First Thousand Words in Japanese" Children's book that explained Japanese's use of syllables as alphabet. I probably benefitted from knowing that early on.

Anyhow, start with the library. (Repeat after me: "The Library is HOLY!")


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post Feb 7 2005, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Toby-Chan @ Feb 7 2005, 02:26 PM)
Don't get your hopes up.  The likeliness of Japanese course at a public High School is like... none.  Ours has the basic French, German, Spanish, and for some unexplainable reason... Native Ojibwe.  o.O? 
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really? i go to a public high school and i take japanese there (we also have spanish, french, and chinese). i think most high schools in my area have japanese, but the SF bay area in CA is teeming with asians, so maybe that's why. actually, my japanese class has been all asian for all 4 years i've been in the class....right now we have maybe 4 korean people, 2 japanese people, and the rest are all chinese. i think some of the lower level japanese classes are more diverse, but mine turned out to be all asian. blink.gif


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yay! theres hope for me yet x] the city in los angeles that i live in is about 86% asian


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