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New FMA Movie: "嘆きの丘の聖なる星" discussion Thread; movie info on the first post! (Spoiler warning!), This thread is now closed. Please use new thread. ^^
Anomia Grey
post Nov 13 2010, 02:43 PM
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Oh yes, would I EVER love a good live action adaptation - I think if any film would work well under a reworking by a Western studio it would be FMA. I'd personally love to see a Sherlock Holmey, steam-punk Amestris, and the idea of the opening scene of the two boys trying to revive their mother, with all the little details of their father's studio lit by the transmutation's light, sends shivers down my spine....


But seriously, not even bringing Jackson into the equation, what are the odds of a studio putting so much time and money into an adaptation of an anime? It's true that Avatar got del Torro, but I personally think we need to see how well the Cowboy Bebop movie will fare before we can hope for Holywood interest in making more anime adaptations.

About the mysterious disappearance: maybe it was a leak, and they weren't supposed to publish any info before the trailer actually came out on the 15th? we'll have to wait and see, I guess!


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Or: Children see a Thing Man Was Not Meant To Know, run around country looking for another one.
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post Nov 17 2010, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE (Rainshine @ Nov 17 2010, 05:41 AM) *
Am I the only person who actually liked CoS? :< (read: alfons heiderich)
And now that people have mentioned it, the art style really does look like Miyazaki. Not to mention the content, especially batwoman. And looking at the teaser too, CoS really didn't look that good. XD There's just some random guy in a mask, and then Edward rips part of his shirt off again. Does anyone know when we'll be getting a longer teaser/trailer for the new movie?
I must know moooooore! *^*


No, I liked it too! happy.gif

Yeah, the trailer was a bit misleading, with Edward stripping once again. Seriously, does that boy have some unsolved sexual frustrations or are his clothes just in the way? Has anyone kept an account?
But the later trailer for CoS were amazing, especially the one where they play the main theme Link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooUK4jE4cEQ

Now, that was something!

Also, with the comments about tying the movie to the actual story: I'm not really a fan of the idea. I think we should only keep this as a midquel because when interfering with the actual story, it's either awkward or okay.


allykatty1: I recall how LotR movies attracted many new fans (I was one of them but got into hype when the last movie came out) but manga and anime are still inferior. While popular books and movies, take LotR since we are talking about it, are translated to various languages and shown all over the world, it is not so simple to trasport manga and anime. The way I see it, and please correct me if I am wrong, USA is the main target for manga and you guys there are the lucky ones. Most people who live in small states (like yours truly) have to get their manga by shipping and in different language. Watching anime has to be done by watching it on the internet with fan subs and many of these sites get removed or eliminate our favourite episodes. It is impossible to find Anime 1 eps on Youtube but that is pretty understandable since Youtube is what it is.

For instance, I need to watch this movie on line because there is no way it will be shown on theatre or television, not for another decade. We got Fma 1 and the movie on television by some miracle but since then not many animes have been shown (If I remember correct, Death Note and a Evangelion are being shown here currently). I'm not asking for pity; this is a cold, unfortunate fact. Up north, it is pretty difficult to introduce yourself to a new anime show. Of course, there are ways when you make them up.

Also, (I'm at it again...) I'm not sure but in how many countries has Brotherhood been shown? I recall some being USA, Spain...?



allykatty1 Bones did especially well with FMA 1 and the ending. There is no way one can call it bad. I actually prefer the Anime1 ending and CoS to the happy ending of the manga, although it made my heart bleed blood. Besides, that stone episode you mentioned, it was necessary to build Lust's character. You might remember that Anime 1 and Manga Lusts were complete opposites as was the idea of how Homunculi were born.
Not only Arakawa can make a good FMA story wink.gif


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post Nov 17 2010, 08:10 AM
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I don't get why people hated COS so much. I loved both series. I loved the bittersweet ending of it all. It shows that nothing in life is perfect, and you don't always get exactly what you want.
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post Nov 17 2010, 09:29 AM
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allykatty1: Bones did especially well with FMA 1 and the ending. There is no way one can call it bad. I actually prefer the Anime1 ending and CoS to the happy ending of the manga, although it made my heart bleed blood. Besides.....
Not only Arakawa can make a good FMA story wink.gif
(Note: the source info, i.e. name of the poster, for this quote was not included as that is not the main focus here. Also, please note that the underline was made by me.... please see below on this. ^^)


NOTE to EVERYONE: .. just as a precaution because I see some possible unwanted trends happening here. ^^

In short, please avoid going into side-discussions such as "FMA-1 vs FMA:Brotherhood/FMA manga" discussions, extensive COS discussions, FMA:Brotherhood ending discussions, etc. on this thread.

If you'd like to carry discussions about those topics, please go to the appropriate threads such as, FMA-1 vs FMA:Brotherhood.
Or, if you would like to talk about the ending of FMA:Brotherhood, we have FMA:Brotherhood ending discussion thread.
Or, if anyone would like to discuss CoS movie extensively, we have FMA Conqueror of Shambala Movie sub-forum also.

We'd love to see your discussions on these subjects on the appropriate threads/forum such as above! But, please do NOT spread these discussions outside of these threads and onto other threads, like this one, as that would be OFF-TOPIC and distraction here. smile.gif


1) If someone wants to state on this thread his/her preferences on the certain aspect of particular FMA series, in relation to his/her opinion on the upcoming FMA movie, it is fine to briefly mention the summary of his/her opinion on such, as part of explaining his/her opinion on the certain aspect of upcoming FMA movie, but the keyword here is BRIEFLY.

Please do not use this thread as an extra platform for your anti/pro FMA-1/FMA:Brotherhood/FMA manga campaign, etc. and go into details of your opinion on Ending/Beginning/or whatever in FMA-1/FMA:Brotherhood/FMA manga etc. here.

Instead, please go to the appropriate thread where you can make extensive discussion on the topic and make your post there.

Then, if you'd like, you can refer to your posts there on your post here, as needed, such as..."I'm not in favor of FMA-1/FMA:Brotherhood/FMA manga ending/beginning/whatnot, you can read more on my opinion on this on my post here, (<-- insert the URL of the appropriate discussion thread where we can find your post) and hence I would prefer this movie to be blah blah...."


2) If you see some post on this thread with someone stating his/her opinions/preferences on certain aspects of FMA-1/FMA: Brotherhood/FMA manga, then please try to refrain from making your reply post comment/discussion on such topic, especially your OPPOSING OPINIONS on such topic and thereby starting up a new discussion on such topic on this thread.

Instead, please go to the appropriate discussion thread for that topic and continue your discussion there.


3) Also, in general, when you are making your statement, please try to AVOID stating what is your opinion as if that is the FACT.
(Example of this is shown with underline in the above quote) Please make a good use of the words: "in my opinion" in such case. smile.gif




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And, because I see this keeps happening also... >.<

<Reminder/Plea> to use SPOILER TAGS...

We ask everyone to be careful not to spoil the series final storyline, or any major FMA storyline content for other posters/readers/guests of this thread, including FMA fans who had not watched/read series final of FMA:Brotherhood or FMA manga (YES there are still PLENTY of those people, and we get such visitors on our board EVERYDAY. smile.gif) by properly COVERING SPOILERS with spoiler covers, and also, if posting Series Fianl Spoiler content, then please use properly marked Spoiler warning that is clearly stating that the content under the spoiler cover is a Series Final Spoiler, so that none of the visitors/members of our board who read posts on this thread would not get unnecessarily spoiled of some important/series final content for any of the FMA series. Thank you! smile.gif

(This is actually part of our Spoiler Posting Guidelines that's pinned in several of our relevant forums. If you haven't done so yet, please check it out. ^^)


...Additionally, if you happen to forget to use the spoiler covers, hope you do not mind that our board staff may go ahead and EDIT such post and/or add proper spoiler waning/spoiler covers on your post, with or without further notice to the poster. ^^


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post Nov 17 2010, 09:19 PM
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^ Are we gonna talk about the movie or FMA-1 vs Brotherhood? sleep.gif

...need...an...extended...trailer! Badly!

(I just realized...at least we won't see Roy and his idiotic mustache...XD)

I hope the full list of characters will be out soon!


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post Nov 17 2010, 11:46 PM
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Thanks for the link Rosieechan, but I'm already quite familiar with the available threads on this board. wink.gif

Everything posted in my original response was relevant to a discussion of the second fma movie, my expectations after viewing the trailer of said movie, and the reasoning underlying those expectations. Furthermore, nothing of my opinion contained detailed analyses or discussions which would merit a separate posting in the FMA1 vs Brotherhood thread, and so I do not feel I was out of place in making my remarks in this particular location.

That being said, it is my conviction that without at least a passing reference to the standards set by FMA in its various incarnations, be they feature film or television series, it would be difficult to generate anything but superficial commentary or wayward speculation on a trailer lasting half a minute or less. As you commented in your own post - we need an extended trailer, and we need it now! biggrin.gif

Without that, I don't see how the discussion in this thread can go much further than it already has - namely, comments to the tune the of: "wolfman wut?!?" or "Miyazaki much?" or even "nana nana nana nana batman! (woman?)"

I stand by my original remarks - this movie has the potential to be a great addition the fma-verse or an abysmal cash-in. Only time will tell if the producers, directors and animators involved in this project will execute their tasks in a manner worthy of the FMA name. But until that 'promised day,' I see no problem with drawing comparisons between CoS, anime one and Brotherhood with the intent of predicting the most likely course for the style and content of this new Fullmetal Alchemist film.

Indeed, other posters such as Misty-Nala and Rainshine have already contributed to this thread with remarks initiating just such a dialog, so it would seem somewhat arbitrary to single out my post for censure, especially after I qualified it as to "my perception" with no desire to force my preferences on other board members.

I believe if you refer to Tombow's first guideline to proper posting in this thread, you will discover this little gem:

"If someone wants to state on this thread his/her preferences on the certain aspect of particular FMA series, in relation to his/her opinion on the upcoming FMA movie, it is fine to briefly mention the summary of his/her opinion on such, as part of explaining his/her opinion on the certain aspect of upcoming FMA movie, but the keyword here is BRIEFLY."

My observation was certainly brief (well, at least more succinct than this response has turned out to be tongue.gif ), and just as certainly relevant to my opinion of the upcoming movie, so I hope you will not choose to view it as either condescending or arbitrary. I have had a vested interest in this franchise since early 2001, so I do not make remarks of disappointment of lightly. This lack of enthusiasm as characterized by initial post is simply my honest reaction to a trailer which I found less than encouraging.
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post Nov 18 2010, 03:26 AM
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QUOTE (Misty- Nala @ Nov 17 2010, 03:18 AM) *
allykatty1: I recall how LotR movies attracted many new fans (I was one of them but got into hype when the last movie came out) but manga and anime are still inferior. While popular books and movies, take LotR since we are talking about it, are translated to various languages and shown all over the world, it is not so simple to trasport manga and anime. The way I see it, and please correct me if I am wrong, USA is the main target for manga and you guys there are the lucky ones.

allykatty1 Bones did especially well with FMA 1 and the ending. There is no way one can call it bad. I actually prefer the Anime1 ending and CoS to the happy ending of the manga, although it made my heart bleed blood. Besides, that stone episode you mentioned, it was necessary to build Lust's character. You might remember that Anime 1 and Manga Lusts were complete opposites as was the idea of how Homunculi were born.
Not only Arakawa can make a good FMA story wink.gif


Hmm, while it is true that manga may not be as widespread and easily accessible as a literary classic like LoTR, I guess I'm just overly optimistic that no matter the original format, a good story will come into its' own and attract new viewers/readers and it will then become more widespread and accessible. happy.gif

And don't get me wrong, I also love Anime 1 and CoS (after all, it was catching the second-to-last episode on Adult Swim one night that originally got me into the series, ironically). smile.gif I don't necessarily think that Arakawa is the only one capable of writing a good FMA story. But that's when looking at the overall plot of a well-thought-out 51 episode series. Ah, and yes, it is true that there was that bit with Lust's backstory in that one episode - however, I think the five minutes it took to tell that part with Scar's brother could have been placed somewhere else in another episode and saved us 20 minutes of watching some random village with annoying characters deal with a nonsensical concrete bone sickness or whatever-the-heck-it-was. XD Kind of like the crazy blue rose lady in episode 4... save for one piece of information the brothers picked up, that episode was basically pure filler and kind of lame at that. If the whole series had been like either of those episodes, I would never have become a fan.

Likewise, I'd hate to see this movie turn out to be 98% lame filler with 2% real meaning, because it can be so much more than that. Granted I guess it comes down to what kind of characters and plot any given individual might call "lame" in their personal opinion. But I will reserve any further judgment until seeing more info! wink.gif
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Just letting you guys know that I just checked the official JP site, and there is no new content/news yet.


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<ETA: Nov 30, 2010. The following is an off-topic discussion. For further discussion, please open a separate thread. :) >
@Hoshino Hikari - I vaguely remember reading (in Japanese) Arakawa-sensei's interview with the content Nefertekas is possibly referring to. And, if it's the same interview, then what I'd like to add is that that English translations is very much missing Arakawa-sensei's funny sense of humor in that sentence that (I guess) got lost in the translations.


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<Program Note>

Guys, I think we're getting a bit side-tracked on this thread with the off-topic discussions about supposed Arakawa's comment. biggrin.gif

It is an interesting discussion, IMO, but I think we should really talk that on a separate thread. ^^
Hence, if anyone would like to go on further discussions with this subject, please open a NEW & separate thread for the discussion.

AND, on a new thread, please post the REAL SOURCE of this comment so that we can read what Arakawa-sensei actually said, and hence we can stop posting our opinions based on speculations and guesses.

I think that would be a more sensible way to go about this discussion. ^^



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Thank you, and now please go back to the discussions on the new FMA movie. biggrin.gif


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<Program Note>


Moved the following post & replying posts to FMA News Around The Web thread.
Please use above thread for FMA Festival related news and discussions. smile.gif

QUOTE (hilary @ Mar 25 2011, 03:52 AM) *
http://tieba.baidu.com/f?kz=1033385039

the new Edward figure from Medicom!! *0*

So cool but quite expensive.... / w ~~~


ETA:
Warning! The image contains series final spoiler!
New FMA Festival image

New picture of the 2011 FA Festival!


Actually, hiraly, if you don't mind, could you post info on Ed figure on FMA Merchandise: For FMA-1, FMA: Brotherhood, & FMA Manga also? That would be appreciated! biggrin.gif


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<Program Note>

This thread is now closed. Please use newly created News & info on "嘆きの丘の聖なる星 (FMA:MiloStar)" movie on official JP site and around the web thread. Posts with information & discussions on this thread may be distributed to threads with relevant discussion topics in this forum shortly. smile.gif


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