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Episode 62: A Fierce Counterattack - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 62 episodes
post Jun 19 2010, 11:57 AM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5. smile.gif

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Summary: Father creates more Philosopher's Stone by taking the souls of soldiers, but Hohenheim, Alphonse, Izumi, and May arrive to stop him. Father distracts the group by creating humans with the souls of the people inside of him, and then unleashes an enormous energy blast that a late Edward also gets caught in. Meanwhile, Greed recruits a group to go fight Father, including Roy, Riza, Alex, and Ranfan. Olivier finds out from Scar that Bradley was already mortally wounded when he fought him, thanks to Buccaneer. When the dust clears from Father's blast, it appears Alphonse has shielded May at the cost of massive damage and Hohenheim shielded Izumi and Edward. The Briggs soldiers attack Father and Roy and the others arrive to join them. Eventually Father starts to lose control of "God" inside of him and requires more Philosopher's Stone again. He staggers towards a wounded Edward, but Alphonse decides to use Rentanjutsu and sacrifice himself to restore Edward's arm. At the Doors of Truth, Alphonse's soul and body unite and the Truth loses Ed's arm. Edward's arm restored, he attacks Father on his own, with everyone cheering him on. - Penguintruth, used with permission and taken from his blog.


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post Jun 20 2010, 05:42 AM
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Why did you complain about the DBZ actions? They're all from the manga, and they adapted those scenes very well imo. tongue.gif About distorted faces, I don't see many except for Father's face, but it's supposed to be like that for our Father who's about to explode. xP

And now that you mentioned it, I think I want to see Ed's arm materializing back too, but what we got in this ep was taken directly from the manga panel, so I really didn't have much to complain. Because manga panel = WIN!

Also, I LOVED how they used the main theme for that scene, I know what's coming and when the music started to play, I talked to myself: "Wow, isn't it fitting like hell?" And when Al's armor started to dematerialize, it's just beautiful!

All in all, I loved every bit of this episode. The ending for FMA deserves kickass animation and this episode gives it just that. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 20 2010, 02:38 PM
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QUOTE (shiroe @ Jun 20 2010, 04:42 AM) *

Why did you complain about the DBZ actions? They're all from the manga, and they adapted those scenes very well imo. tongue.gif About distorted faces, I don't see many except for Father's face, but it's supposed to be like that for our Father who's about to explode. xP

And now that you mentioned it, I think I want to see Ed's arm materializing back too, but what we got in this ep was taken directly from the manga panel, so I really didn't have much to complain. Because manga panel = WIN!

Well, regardless if any one screenshot is taken from the manga, the way it looks in motion changes things up a bit. It just looked unnatural and not very fluid to me. And most of the "distorted" shots to me were not shots I recognized from the manga. And even if they were, I didn't like that they used the cliched "frozen character in mid-punch with action lines!" type of shot that we see in so many shonen anime. I just always thought FMA (or at least the first anime) was usually more realistic than that. I guess I'm finding myself comparing to this animation quality of the last couple episodes of Anime1, which were beautiful and very fluid. But it is also true that this is a more action-oriented ending anyway, so I can forgive it that. Again, though, this could have just been a stream problem. I'll hold off my final judgment until I see an HD version! wink.gif

And yep, it is true that the shot with Ed's arm was taken almost directly from the manga, but I guess ever since I read the chapter I expected to see it materialize bit by bit. I'll have to watch the episode again, but I'm pretty sure it's not QUITE the exact manga panel. In the manga, you could see bits of his fingers weren't 100% back yet, which was why I was kind of expected it to materialize more when seen animated. I also really missed that we didn't see the automail plates falling from his body (like in the manga shot... it should be like the genie's wrist bracelets falling off in "Aladdin," darn it, more dramatic, lol!). Also, in the manga, when we see the panel with his arm returned, his eyes are still staring ahead - only afterwards does he look over, which I thought was more impactful. But I can see why this was changed: it basically just looks like the animated panel takes place a couple seconds after the equivalent manga panel. The fingers are already 100% restored, the main automail plates have already fallen, and he's already glancing over at the arm. LOL, this is hardly a bit thing for me to nitpick over, but it was just something I noticed. happy.gif

Anyone else cringe when they showed the blood SPURTING from Ed's wounded arm when he was struggling to escape?! O_O I didn't think it was really that well animated, but it did its' job anyway. *shudder shudder*

I also "WTF, LOL"ed at the "Our Father" eyecatch.
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- Chiyo   Episode 62: A Fierce Counterattack - Content Discussion Thread   Jun 19 2010, 11:57 AM
- - penguintruth   My initial thoughts: - Shouldn't Father be ab...   Jun 20 2010, 01:26 AM
- - KEKU   I can't believe they cut out Al's blood se...   Jun 20 2010, 01:30 AM
|- - ChaosRogue   QUOTE (KEKU @ Jun 20 2010, 08:30 PM) I ca...   Jun 20 2010, 01:35 AM
|- - KEKU   QUOTE (ChaosRogue @ Jun 20 2010, 04:35 AM...   Jun 20 2010, 08:38 AM
- - Elisabeth Hawkeye   For the first time I think I will start to hate Bo...   Jun 20 2010, 01:32 AM
- - Michiyo-   - Hoho is very angry. - Father birthing humans was...   Jun 20 2010, 01:36 AM
|- - amestris_star   QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Jun 20 2010, 10:36...   Jun 20 2010, 01:51 AM
- - AXavierB   I haven't seen the episode yet, but I think it...   Jun 20 2010, 01:41 AM
- - shiroe   OMG! Fantastic episode! The best I've ...   Jun 20 2010, 01:51 AM
- - allykatty1   Eh, I guess I should wait until I see the ep in HD...   Jun 20 2010, 02:54 AM
- - Rai no Renkinjutsushi   Well, the episode was really great in my humble op...   Jun 20 2010, 03:12 AM
- - Flamez_Freak   The staff involved in this episode was the same as...   Jun 20 2010, 03:16 AM
- - divinespirit   Episode 62 Screencaps and Impressions: http://rand...   Jun 20 2010, 03:30 AM
- - AXavierB   Just watched the episode. I liked it. The art was ...   Jun 20 2010, 03:49 AM
- - Hagaren_4ever   QUOTE (penguintruth @ Jun 20 2010, 04:26 ...   Jun 20 2010, 04:19 AM
|- - ChaosRogue   QUOTE (penguintruth @ Jun 20 2010, 04:26 ...   Jun 20 2010, 05:00 AM
- - Flamez_Freak   ^Exactly . We are watchin a shonen show here . Peo...   Jun 20 2010, 05:25 AM
- - deet-tastic   Heck yeah animation. The entire episode was amazin...   Jun 20 2010, 08:04 AM
- - rzerox21xx   Another great episode, by the way, I hope kit-chan...   Jun 20 2010, 08:41 AM
- - Kasumisty   Copying thoughts from my tweeter: -Wow, they chan...   Jun 20 2010, 09:08 AM
- - Ama-ri   Oh great Episode overall. The only thing I didn...   Jun 20 2010, 09:39 AM
- - Animeoldtimer   I loved this episode! I liked the music that w...   Jun 20 2010, 09:49 AM
- - deet-tastic   I loved both eyecatches. They were both made of so...   Jun 20 2010, 11:21 AM
- - Mr. Deathy   Episode was great. Just as action packed as the la...   Jun 20 2010, 11:23 AM
- - FullTylerStarke   That episode was amazing, they're wrapping up ...   Jun 20 2010, 02:39 PM
- - EveningAlchemist   This episode definitely belongs in the epic-action...   Jun 20 2010, 05:52 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   Do you think the English dub will re-use the line ...   Jun 20 2010, 06:21 PM
- - Elle-chan   I was crying. OMG IT WAS AWESOME!!   Jun 20 2010, 06:30 PM
- - heartwing713   Okay...that wasn't as epic as I expected. #1:...   Jun 20 2010, 06:51 PM
|- - Royai plz :3   This episode was so epic O__O But not as epic a I ...   Jun 21 2010, 05:09 AM
- - AXavierB   Oh yeah, this episode completely butchered the sce...   Jun 21 2010, 12:43 AM
- - cherry-chan. :D   I dunno... maybe it's just because the version...   Jun 21 2010, 06:40 AM
- - RoyxRizaFan   ^ BONES realized everyone was expecting more RoyAi...   Jun 21 2010, 08:00 AM
- - zonkiethegreat   THIS EPISODE WAS EEEEEPPPPPIIIIICCCCCC. PERIOD. D...   Jun 21 2010, 11:07 AM
- - Vagrant   Poor direction for the BIG moment. Just lacked the...   Jun 21 2010, 02:56 PM
- - Kasumisty   63 episodes: People complaining about the need of ...   Jun 21 2010, 03:38 PM
|- - zonkiethegreat   QUOTE (Kasumisty @ Jun 21 2010, 06:38 PM)...   Jun 21 2010, 08:02 PM
- - FMAobsessed   I think this episode has the most screaming in Ful...   Jun 21 2010, 10:22 PM
- - allykatty1   Okay, have just seen the episode in HD with subs a...   Jun 22 2010, 12:56 AM
- - Flamez_Freak   @zonkie i cant see the shot...(((( and this is e...   Jun 22 2010, 02:03 AM
- - Kasumisty   Okay, I was going to say that there aren't man...   Jun 22 2010, 02:11 AM
- - FMAobsessed   I could have sworn that bloated Father was in FMA ...   Jun 22 2010, 08:02 AM
- - Pyroclasm   My thoughts while watching this episode: Nooo...   Jun 22 2010, 08:34 AM
- - zonkiethegreat   Like someone stated earlier, the "Our Father...   Jun 22 2010, 09:58 AM
- - Chiyo   Wow. Really I know people have said this episode w...   Jun 22 2010, 12:08 PM
- - Flamez_Freak   I don't understand how ppl can miss out import...   Jun 23 2010, 02:58 AM
- - Forsaken Love   Grah still no torrents around, I have an amv to fi...   Jun 23 2010, 12:28 PM
- - Flamez_Freak   No eclipse release till tomorrow . Their translato...   Jun 23 2010, 12:49 PM
- - Forsaken Love   Ye can't find an avi though >_< eclipse ...   Jun 23 2010, 01:29 PM
- - Flamez_Freak   You can get an avi from tmd too . Visit their webs...   Jun 23 2010, 01:38 PM
- - cherry-chan. :D   Okay, I watched it the second time, and... yeah, i...   Jun 23 2010, 05:28 PM
|- - zonkiethegreat   QUOTE (cherry-chan. :D @ Jun 23 2010...   Jun 25 2010, 09:07 PM
|- - Royai plz :3   QUOTE (cherry-chan. :D @ Jun 24 2010...   Jun 26 2010, 03:43 AM
- - penguintruth   The action and production values in the episode we...   Jun 25 2010, 10:20 PM
|- - zonkiethegreat   QUOTE (penguintruth @ Jun 26 2010, 01:20 ...   Jun 26 2010, 09:27 AM
- - AXavierB   I would've liked to see Father do more with hi...   Jun 26 2010, 02:58 AM
- - Flamez_Freak   Well all's well now that eclipse has released ...   Jun 26 2010, 03:46 AM
- - penguintruth   I think if I absorbed "God" I would snap...   Jun 26 2010, 03:12 PM
- - Broken Chouchou   He probably underestimated them a bit, as usual wi...   Jun 26 2010, 04:09 PM
- - Tezrath   I still can't find a decent sub... a week late...   Jun 28 2010, 02:15 PM
- - MsLinn   I'm a (little lot) late as I've saved the ...   Jul 12 2010, 02:31 PM
- - Michiyo-   Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 62 (on CN ...   Sep 10 2011, 03:12 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Nov 10 2012, 10:48 AM

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