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Episode 62: A Fierce Counterattack - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 62 episodes
Chiyo
post Jun 19 2010, 11:57 AM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5. smile.gif

Please post the discussions on the content of episode 62 here.
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Please do not discuss Chapters 63-64 here. For discussion on the final two episodes go here if you HAVE read the manga...and here if you HAVE NOT.

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Summary: Father creates more Philosopher's Stone by taking the souls of soldiers, but Hohenheim, Alphonse, Izumi, and May arrive to stop him. Father distracts the group by creating humans with the souls of the people inside of him, and then unleashes an enormous energy blast that a late Edward also gets caught in. Meanwhile, Greed recruits a group to go fight Father, including Roy, Riza, Alex, and Ranfan. Olivier finds out from Scar that Bradley was already mortally wounded when he fought him, thanks to Buccaneer. When the dust clears from Father's blast, it appears Alphonse has shielded May at the cost of massive damage and Hohenheim shielded Izumi and Edward. The Briggs soldiers attack Father and Roy and the others arrive to join them. Eventually Father starts to lose control of "God" inside of him and requires more Philosopher's Stone again. He staggers towards a wounded Edward, but Alphonse decides to use Rentanjutsu and sacrifice himself to restore Edward's arm. At the Doors of Truth, Alphonse's soul and body unite and the Truth loses Ed's arm. Edward's arm restored, he attacks Father on his own, with everyone cheering him on. - © Penguintruth, used with permission and taken from his blog.

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post Jun 20 2010, 01:26 AM
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My initial thoughts:

- Shouldn't Father be able to turn the entire country into a Philosopher's Stone with the wave of his hand now? He has God in him!
- Stop with the ki blasts already! It's not DBZ!
- Love the bit with Greed yelling at Olivier.
- But I'm not loving how they drag this part out.
- That pre-eye catch bit was AWESOME
- It's cool seeing everyone in action. Er, except Father, who continues being lame.
- Greed is awesome, except for his "derp, I just wanted friends the whole time" motivation
- Okay, the action is effing amazing!
- Hey, Al, why not instead of doing that, just use alchemy to create a wall around Father or Ed?
- Ed's armed! And doing things Al could have done a moment ago!
- Guys, why are you all just standing around WATCHING? Jeez.
- It's coming to an end!

I can forgive some of the problems because of the ungodly awesomness of the action.


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post Jun 20 2010, 01:30 AM
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I can't believe they cut out Al's blood seal being cracked.

That was the whole reason he had to transmute himself to return Ed's arm, otherwise he would have died if the seal gave out. =S


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post Jun 20 2010, 01:32 AM
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For the first time I think I will start to hate Bones a little. What the heck?! Where are our two great Royai moments ohmy.gif


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post Jun 20 2010, 01:35 AM
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QUOTE (KEKU @ Jun 20 2010, 08:30 PM) *
I can't believe they cut out Al's blood seal being cracked.

That was the whole reason he had to transmute himself to return Ed's arm, otherwise he would have died if the seal gave out. =S


Uh... yeah that was there. He's about to move, when he pauses and it zooms in on his seal. My interpretation of that scene is that if Al pretty much did anything the crack would extend and that would be it for Al. In that moment he saw an opportunity to get Ed's arm back using his last action possible.
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post Jun 20 2010, 01:36 AM
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- Hoho is very angry.
- Father birthing humans was creepy. And the Xerxians are very creepy too.
- They left out the Greed/Olivier quarrel. I wanted to see that.
- Poor Al, he’s in a very bad shape. Hoho too.
- Wow, the soldiers were able to shoot Father. That wasn’t in the manga.
- Yay, epic flame attacks!
- Where are the Royai moments? They’re not holding onto each other.
- Roy/Riza eyecatch! <3
- Roy is even more awesome when he’s using clapping alchemy.
- And now everyone attacks.
- Go Greed!
- I see some extra scenes. Izumi and Alex didn’t attack Father directly in the manga.
- The scene when Al sacrificed himself was great. And the music was fitting.
- And we have exactly the same ending as in chapter 107.
Keyhole was really crappy sometimes, so I can’t wait to watch it in HQ. But the episode was very good, I really liked the action scenes, the music and the voice acting.


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post Jun 20 2010, 01:41 AM
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I haven't seen the episode yet, but I think it would've been awesome if they played an instrumental remix of "Bratja" from the first series just for the scene where Al sacrifices himself.


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post Jun 20 2010, 01:51 AM
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OMG! Fantastic episode! The best I've seen so far even. Man, I'm in tears. Bones really did this series' ending justice. Last two weeks ep had me in awe, ep 61 had some pacing issue but the animation quality is amazing nonetheless, and then this...If I've ever had any doubt in Bones, it's all gone now. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Michiyo- @ Jun 20 2010, 10:36 AM) *
- Where are the Royai moments? They’re not holding onto each other.
- Roy/Riza eyecatch! <3


True, however, so many things happen in 107, that BONES probably focused more on the main plot rather than on the positioning of Roy and Riza's hands. As much as this was awesomely (Royai) in the manga (and canon to that) I don't mind that not being emphasised too much as they basically focused on all the action. We might have things waiting for us in the next two episodes ;)


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Eh, I guess I should wait until I see the ep in HD quality, but I actually was kind of disappointed in much of the action animation. :/ It was too DBZ for me; I hate when they distort characters' faces and bodies to emphasize anger.

Also was disappointed in the Royai (they were definitely closer in the manga) and that we didn't actually see Ed's arm materializing back on his body. It was just suddenly... there. All we got was a little bit of blue alchemy light. Bah, I really wanted to see that. tongue.gif

Oh well, aside from those small complaints, overall 'twas a good ep. I'm not super-excited given the potential of the source material, but it was acceptable. Romi Park was awesome as always!! biggrin.gif
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post Jun 20 2010, 03:12 AM
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Well, the episode was really great in my humble opinion. biggrin.gif
Though I was disappointed regarding the direction of the "Greed distraction scene".
It was more epic in the manga when Ed, like from nowhere, charges on father. I expected a slow-motion scene, or something like the time when Greed attacked Father thinking he was in the Center of the World.
Keyhole was a b*tch, as always with the frame rate, but from what I saw, Eds counterattack with his restored arm was superb.

All in all, a great episode. smile.gif
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The staff involved in this episode was the same as episode 26 + jun shibata . Wow . . And it showed . This episode stood out because of its godly animation and the awesomeness of Yoshimichi kameda . . Once again . . Loved every bit of this episode . And i'm speechless right now smile.gif


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post Jun 20 2010, 03:30 AM
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Episode 62 Screencaps and Impressions:
http://randomc.net/2010/06/20/fullmetal-al...brotherhood-62/
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post Jun 20 2010, 03:49 AM
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Just watched the episode. I liked it. The art was a tad weird in some places and a couple of my favorite manga panels were changed, but overall it was good.

I did, however, think the music they played during Al's sacrifice was a little unfit for that scene.

Anybody else find it kinda weird how Father's eyecatch gave his name as "Our Father"?


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QUOTE (penguintruth @ Jun 20 2010, 04:26 AM) *
My initial thoughts:

- Hey, Al, why not instead of doing that, just use alchemy to create a wall around Father or Ed?

I can forgive some of the problems because of the ungodly awesomness of the action.

...Gotta love how pengiuntruth sheds a light on some brief moments of clarity. Seriously, week by week you manage ruin the logic of every fma episode and I love ya for that. XD

Anyhoo, I can't get around to watching the ep any time soon, but looking at the screen caps, I'd say the animation is looking pretty top-notch. smile.gif


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