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Episode 56: The Return Of The Führer - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 56 episodes
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post May 10 2010, 04:40 AM
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I thought they did the fight scene very well. I liked the scene with Bradley and the knives as well and WAY TO GO Buccaneer!

I guess we also got a basis for Fuery/Ross fanfiction too. laugh.gif


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post May 10 2010, 05:02 AM
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(On a totally unrelated note, when the hell is chapter 107 going to be fanslated? I'm stressing out trying to dodge these spoilers and resist temptation)

This episode looked and sounded pretty great. The art was of considerable quality, the combat animation was superb and even the opening in the desert where that colour made all the difference.
Really good music as well. In the desert, in Father's lair, after Falman's stand and in the radio station. Were they all new?

Weird changes in the desert scene. He wasn't half-buried in the sand and instead of his mumbling as they carry him, it cuts to him on a horse? It's somehow not as good.

Stuff with Father was super bloody. Moreso than the manga, that makes a change. (I'm not bothered about the difference there though, and I liked the addition of showing some of the people Hohenheim named.
They seemed to cut around Father's new form eating his 'shell' though. What the-?
This scene also brings back my worry that the deus ex machina was getting heavy and that the series might be going off the rails. Soon it will be Dragonball Z energy balls and all kinds of crazy. :\

What the hell was with the change of location? All of a sudden the stairs are now a ridiculous cargo elevator shaft surrounded by stairs?
It was like something out of a video game, and a tank couldn't climb it. Not to mention the glass doors, what the f?!
Wrath messing the tank up was done awesomely, but yeah, for all the style there was some stupid decisions there.
Then there's the bizarre stuff with the Briggs guys fighting there later. It feels like they've made Briggs soldiers seem less tough in this episode, as well.

Falman's big moment was cool. I kinda wish he wasn't crying in either the manga or the anime tho'. :\
Buccaneer gets his awesometime, yay.

Since they were splitting scenes at the radio station, I kinda liked the new bit with Ross and Fuery taking cover by the windows.
I totally forgot about this part though, Briggs getting the blame.

The weird shaft thing made the Fuu part pretty ridiculous. Briggs guys shooting at him and him throwing his own cloak off, instead of Wrath stabbing it. It was still a cool reveal, but the manga totally did it better.

So, yeah.[/rant]


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post May 10 2010, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2010, 05:02 AM) *
The weird shaft thing made the Fuu part pretty ridiculous. Briggs guys shooting at him and him throwing his own cloak off, instead of Wrath stabbing it. It was still a cool reveal, but the manga totally did it better.

So, yeah.[/rant]


You know I think Fuu is one of the characters that has come off worst in Brotherhood. Only in like one episode do I feel like his design has even retained the proper look of the manga character and I can't think of any time he's really seemed very "cool" in Brotherhood, even when he was supposed to here.

I seriously hope They do his scenes next week justice. It's such an awesome way to go out and one of the manga's finest moments. I can't see any anime-only people giving a .... about the character though sadly.
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post May 10 2010, 07:24 AM
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Well, they nailed the desert feel perfectly. You can sense the heat and the dryness. This whole scene looks very nice.

The tank sequence, from beginning to end, was seriously intense. While the change from stairs to tunnel/elevator shaft makes no sense whatsoever - I've been pondering on that since way back - they did handle it really well, and managed to make it awesome nonetheless. I agree with Vagrant about it seeming like something out of a video game, I got Strong MGS vibes tongue.gif

Anyway, even if it was cool enough, I would have preferred had they kept it as it was in the manga. This way, it means that the Greed "reveal" scene later will be different. Also, I felt that fighting in the open space of the stairs, as opposed to the claustrophobic tunnel, contributed with a feeling of unprotectedness, both for Briggs soldiers, and for Bradley, making his feat seem more... not impressive, becaue it was very much so in this episode as well, but... yeah, something.

But more importantly, that way Falman, Buccaneer and the rest of the crowd actually saw all what he did out in there in the open, before approaching, which would make him seem all that more threatening and intimidating.

And I liked Falman using a cannon better than machine guns =/

Nitpicking aside, the scene was very well done. And the following figthing does not dissapoint. This episode made me realize what a bad cat Bradley really is. I mean, I knew it from the manga already, but seeing it animated brings him to another level of awesomeness.

Pretty great episode all in all. Animation was great, and music was used nicely. I particularily like the track playing in the desert, and the creepy "DANGER IS HERE" one when Father turns the tables and Bradley lets all hell lose. Only choice of song I find questionable is the heroic melody when Greed comes to the rescue. That didn't feel entirely right for the scene.

(Found an unusually high quality stream for this episode, and man, this is one of them that demands it XD)


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post May 11 2010, 10:24 PM
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Wait.
Were Ed AND Al completely absent from this episode?

Anything involving Bradley in the manga needs to be animated for that extra level of pure badass.

Some parts of this were pretty unbelievable, though.
Like a tank driving up stairs.
Or Buccaneer, whom I'm assuming is made of cold, hard iron.

But I like how they did Blob Father's voice. If Blob Father was talking in his regular voice, I probably wouldn't have been able to take him seriously.
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post May 14 2010, 11:11 PM
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There was some extremely awesome action in this episode. You can bet on great action whenever Greed and Wrath are involved.

I was a little iffy on some of the padding, with the other soldiers and the radio station bunch. I mean, I guess it's good to establish how these events affect others, but not when Greed and Wrath are going at it, damn it!

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post May 16 2010, 02:12 AM
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The thing that bugged me once I had read the corresponding manga chapter was how Bradley's scepter-shaped bomb that he drops into the tank was redesigned. Now it's not as noticeable, and looks more like... a microphone?

I forgot who pointed this out, I don't even know if it was on this board, but I remember an interesting observation that Wrath only attacks those who attack him first. As I look back on older episodes, I notice that while all his siblings carry out assassinations on the unsuspecting, the Fuhrer is honorable and only kills in self-defense--at least directly, anyway, as he does order his armies to commit genocide over staged conflicts. (Or when he has to make sure that Al's empty. But hey, top-secret meeting, you know.)
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post May 16 2010, 03:59 AM
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I think the Fuhrer's grenade is meant to be one of these.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_24_grenade


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post May 16 2010, 04:12 AM
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Ah, okay, cool. But in the manga it looked different. <plinkett>And I don't like things that are different.</plinkett>
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post May 16 2010, 05:25 AM
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Ah, so it is. I associated it with the WW2 grenades even when I read the manga.

Arakawa just probably felt it needed to look...Grenade-ier. XD


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Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 56 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here. smile.gif

FMA:B will air 1:00 AM - 1: 30 AM and 5:00 AM - 5:30 AM eastern time. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on again tonight, directly following episode 53, on Adult Swim later tonight. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on again tonight on Adult Swim (U.S.) smile.gif


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