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Episode 56: The Return Of The Führer - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 56 episodes
post May 8 2010, 11:01 AM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 2. smile.gif

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As exciting as the release of chapter 107 is, do not mention any spoilers here please.

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Summary: Hohenheim reveals that he is working in tandem with the souls residing in himself, surprising Father. Father is attacked by the souls he took into himself from Hohenheim, but sheds his mortal shell, becoming a black phantom, resembling his flask form. Above, Fuhrer King Bradley/Wrath attacks the Briggs troops, making quick work of Buccaneer. However, Greed appears before he can attack Falman. The news of the Fuhrer's return are relayed to Mrs. Bradley at the radio station. Mustang's subordinates are forced to blame the coup on Major General Armstrong. Greed engages in battle with Wrath, with Buccaneer returning and taking Bradley's sword from him (by being impaled with it). Central troops move into the HQ, but are taken out by Fuu, who then comes to the aid of Greed and the others.
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post May 10 2010, 05:02 AM
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(On a totally unrelated note, when the hell is chapter 107 going to be fanslated? I'm stressing out trying to dodge these spoilers and resist temptation)

This episode looked and sounded pretty great. The art was of considerable quality, the combat animation was superb and even the opening in the desert where that colour made all the difference.
Really good music as well. In the desert, in Father's lair, after Falman's stand and in the radio station. Were they all new?

Weird changes in the desert scene. He wasn't half-buried in the sand and instead of his mumbling as they carry him, it cuts to him on a horse? It's somehow not as good.

Stuff with Father was super bloody. Moreso than the manga, that makes a change. (I'm not bothered about the difference there though, and I liked the addition of showing some of the people Hohenheim named.
They seemed to cut around Father's new form eating his 'shell' though. What the-?
This scene also brings back my worry that the deus ex machina was getting heavy and that the series might be going off the rails. Soon it will be Dragonball Z energy balls and all kinds of crazy. :\

What the hell was with the change of location? All of a sudden the stairs are now a ridiculous cargo elevator shaft surrounded by stairs?
It was like something out of a video game, and a tank couldn't climb it. Not to mention the glass doors, what the f?!
Wrath messing the tank up was done awesomely, but yeah, for all the style there was some stupid decisions there.
Then there's the bizarre stuff with the Briggs guys fighting there later. It feels like they've made Briggs soldiers seem less tough in this episode, as well.

Falman's big moment was cool. I kinda wish he wasn't crying in either the manga or the anime tho'. :\
Buccaneer gets his awesometime, yay.

Since they were splitting scenes at the radio station, I kinda liked the new bit with Ross and Fuery taking cover by the windows.
I totally forgot about this part though, Briggs getting the blame.

The weird shaft thing made the Fuu part pretty ridiculous. Briggs guys shooting at him and him throwing his own cloak off, instead of Wrath stabbing it. It was still a cool reveal, but the manga totally did it better.

So, yeah.[/rant]

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post May 10 2010, 07:00 AM
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QUOTE (Vagrant @ May 10 2010, 05:02 AM) *
The weird shaft thing made the Fuu part pretty ridiculous. Briggs guys shooting at him and him throwing his own cloak off, instead of Wrath stabbing it. It was still a cool reveal, but the manga totally did it better.

So, yeah.[/rant]

You know I think Fuu is one of the characters that has come off worst in Brotherhood. Only in like one episode do I feel like his design has even retained the proper look of the manga character and I can't think of any time he's really seemed very "cool" in Brotherhood, even when he was supposed to here.

I seriously hope They do his scenes next week justice. It's such an awesome way to go out and one of the manga's finest moments. I can't see any anime-only people giving a .... about the character though sadly.
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- Chiyo   Episode 56: The Return Of The Führer - Content Discussion Thread   May 8 2010, 11:01 AM
- - penguintruth   My initial thoughts: - It's great that they...   May 9 2010, 01:31 AM
- - Michiyo-   - Oh, we start with the Hoho flashback that was in...   May 9 2010, 01:35 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   Screens: http://randomc.net/2010/05/09/fullmetal-a...   May 9 2010, 02:53 AM
- - fma_milan_freak   Thanks a million for those screens . . Well , look...   May 9 2010, 04:07 AM
- - JELEE   Thanks for the screens Broken Chouchou. Man, I usu...   May 9 2010, 04:22 AM
- - Mr. Deathy   Some strange changes (tank in the tunnel, added fi...   May 9 2010, 09:10 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   Yess!! Awesome!! I love how the su...   May 9 2010, 12:33 PM
- - fma_milan_freak   Lookin at the first few minutes of the episode , a...   May 9 2010, 12:51 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   Holy crap, how are they gonna beat the fuhrer with...   May 9 2010, 12:59 PM
|- - Mr. Deathy   QUOTE (Bag of Magic Food @ May 9 2010, 01...   May 9 2010, 01:15 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   So there's absolutely nobody who could have gi...   May 9 2010, 01:19 PM
- - deet-tastic   And thus Brotherhood proves to me again why it is ...   May 9 2010, 01:47 PM
- - EveningAlchemist   Ooooh! Loved the music playing at the very be...   May 9 2010, 04:33 PM
- - deet-tastic   Yeah, it was a bloody good fun-fest. And you can T...   May 9 2010, 10:49 PM
- - Animeoldtimer   I thought they did the fight scene very well. I li...   May 10 2010, 04:40 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   Well, they nailed the desert feel perfectly. You c...   May 10 2010, 07:24 AM
- - Radadinator   Wait. Were Ed AND Al completely absent from this e...   May 11 2010, 10:24 PM
- - penguintruth   There was some extremely awesome action in this ep...   May 14 2010, 11:11 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   The thing that bugged me once I had read the corre...   May 16 2010, 02:12 AM
- - Vagrant   I think the Fuhrer's grenade is meant to be on...   May 16 2010, 03:59 AM
- - Bag of Magic Food   Ah, okay, cool. But in the manga it looked differ...   May 16 2010, 04:12 AM
- - Vagrant   Ah, so it is. I associated it with the WW2 grenade...   May 16 2010, 05:25 AM
- - Michiyo-   Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 56 (on CN ...   Jul 30 2011, 02:16 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Oct 20 2012, 07:00 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Dec 7 2013, 06:58 PM

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