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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5.
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QUOTE (Goral @ Apr 26 2010, 08:21 AM)
You're just repeating Arakawa's words. Arakawa forcefully imposes her opinion on us and what she writes is completely naive. It has a moral value and it's good since it is manga for children but is stupid IMO. People don't change that easily, and they become immune to many things (such as killing). Since Mustang killed lots of people and didn't become a bad person, killing Envy would not affect him, why should it? Let's be rational here.
Okay I don't see how what Arakawa is saying is niave at all. What she's saying is that all the killing mustang did in Ishbal is wrong and that he will one day have to pay for it, see Vol 15, but in teh end he did that out of duty and survival rather than out of hatred or revenge. What's she's saying is killing in self defense or because you've been ordered are wrong, but murdering out of hatred is far, far worse. To say that's niave... is saying pretty much every justice system in the world is niave. If your attacked by someone who intends to kill you nad you kill them in self defense, MOST countries will give you some slack in court for that. If your a soldier at war and your ordered to shoot the enemy soldier, who has been ordered to d the same, every country nto only is okay with this but will reward you for it. If out of hatred for another human being, you go out and shoot someone dead who has not attacked you in anyway, you will be arrested and sentanced.
Generally speaking it's accepted that it's okay to kill if your at war, in fact Arakawa challenges that. She says that in fact it's NOT okay that Mustang killed in the war, and that he WILL have to pay for it, eventually. The whole path to the Fuhrer for Mustang has been about remeption for killing during Ishbal, so really, I think him killing Envy out of rage and hatred, would knock him off that path.
Ultimately what was it that Mustang was consumed by? Wrath. Who is the current Fuhrer? Wrath. The whole point they're trying to make is that a country led by a man consumed by hatred that easily, is the screwed up one they live in at the moment. If Mustang wants to make a difference, he needs to be a different man from the one who he's trying to place.
Oh and FullMetal Alchemist is not for children. I can't even begin to imagine how you got that idea. It's for Teenagers and up.