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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 5.
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So they added Hughes to this scene? Chapter 95 generally forgot about the guy, except for Roy's mental image of the picture. However, the 'Burn my back' sequence convinces me that this adaptation emphasizes the 'Riza stops Roy' point even more. ... Okay, I may be burned or shot for saying this, but shouldn't the resolution be about Hughes instead of Royai? Since Hughes' memory is what drove Roy to this point, wouldn't it make more sense if it's Hughes' memory that stops him? Like have Roy ready to kill, thinking about how life has gotten a little darker since Hughes left, remembering how much of a great friend he was, and then realizing that Hughes the great friend would never have condoned this act of revenge (Hey, best friends don't tell you to steal or take drugs, so scratch 'killing someone' off the list too! Besides, if your girlfriend is protesting the act, I doubt your BF would think differently). Instead (in the manga), its Royai that's the solution, with Hughes taking a backseat. No mention from Edward or Riza as in 'Hughes wouldn't want this' or 'Don't ruin Hughes' memory, Roy!" (In fact, its interesting that whenever Roy has a Hughes moment, Riza or her grandfather suddenly appear. Can't stand your man thinking about anyone else but yourself, Riza?) Has this changed in Brotherhood? Having Hughes be Roy's motivator would have solved another problematic point. Please bear with me a situation in Legion of Super-Heroes#297-298 by Paul Levitz (1983): Cosmic Boy's family are injured by a terrorist firebomb. CB goes after the terrorists to torture them with his magnetic powers (manipulating the iron fibers in their blood). His girlfriend Night Girl knocks him out. Sound familiar? Anyway, shortly after, the more calmer Cosmic Boy gets the news that his mother died of her injuries. CB is heartbroken. Night Girl tries to be comforting: "Is there anything I can do?" "Yes. Forgive me." He magnetically throws her against a wall, knocking her out. Then he resumes his wish for revenge. Some of his Legionnaire buddies (Ultra Boy, Chameleon Lad, Element Lad, Sun Boy) follow CB as he corners the terrorists again. But they do nothing. They have to have faith that Cosmic Boy can stop this by himself, with no one holding his hand (I'm guessing they'll intercede at the very last minute). Indeed, Cosmic Boy gets ready to kill, hearing the terrorists' "Stop!" and then he thinks of his mother saying the same thing. He stops, horrified at what he was about to do. This chapter brings up a major character flaw of Roy. In emotional moments he has to be supervised into making the right decision, else alone he will do the wrong thing. In this battle, what if Riza was unconscious and Ed and Scar got lost in the caverns? Then Roy would have killed Envy. If Spider-Man (who went after the Green Goblin for killing Gwen Stacy) and Cosmic Boy can choose mercy over revenge on their own and without help, then why can't Roy? Having Riza stop him only delays the problem. One of these days, this will happen to Roy again, and it might happen when he's alone (or like Cosmic Boy, he'll ensure his solitude by keeping others from interfering). Thus, I'm not going to bet the farm Roy will do the right thing. And can someone please explain Envy's decision? When did the story ever hint to his jealousy of humans? Not to mention his suicide after all that "I don't wanna die!" whining? Whatever you may think of Anime1Envy, at least his series hinted to his issues early (Lab 5), and his fate was a logical end to that characterization (It started with being screwed by Daddy. It ends with getting screwed by Daddy). Here, it's "After 80 chapters of telling you guys that you are ants, the truth is I really envy you! Oh, and even though I screamed my cowardice to the top of my lungs, I have no problem killing myself!" Answers, anyone?