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Episode 52: Everyone's Power - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 52 episodes
Tian Ai
post Apr 15 2010, 03:48 PM
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Personally, I thought the manga version was better. Grabbing the gun is the kind of thing that makes someone shoot you, especially in a tense situation.


I agree; even for Olivier, it's a bit of a stretch. Then again, Central military people are pussies =P

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-Central soldiers are kinda dumb - looking for an "Ice Cream" truck when there's a Flame ALCHEMIST on the other team and pointing guns at the Armstrongs.


Exactly - they said Central's army ruins everything wherever they go, right? They haven't had experience with putting down riots and such in... like, ever.



By the way, do episodes come out on Saturdays?


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post Apr 15 2010, 04:43 PM
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By the way, do episodes come out on Saturdays?


That answer is all over this forum, but I guess a response wont hurt.

Episodes air at 5pm on Sunday in Japan, Japan's time zone being GMT + 9.

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post Apr 15 2010, 07:49 PM
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Basically, expect a sub on Sunday night or the next 2 days


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post Apr 15 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Tian Ai @ Apr 15 2010, 04:48 PM) *
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-Central soldiers are kinda dumb - looking for an "Ice Cream" truck when there's a Flame ALCHEMIST on the other team and pointing guns at the Armstrongs.


Exactly - they said Central's army ruins everything wherever they go, right? They haven't had experience with putting down riots and such in... like, ever.

If episode 8 of the first series had happened in this continuity, I think they would have gone ahead and stopped the truck for an inspection this time. sleep.gif
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post Apr 16 2010, 06:03 AM
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I was kind of disappointed in this episode. Tbh, I found it to be rather...I dunno. I just didn't really get into this one the way I do the others. One thing really annoyed me and that's those damned Central soldiers. They're so STUPID! O_O I mean c'mon! Pointing guns at the Armstrongs? I seriously facepalmed when they all ran out there with their little guns threatening to kill Olivier. I mean there were a few things that were well done, but it was better in the manga in my opinion anyway. I did like the way Kimblee was struggling to breathe after being mutilated. The Al vs Pride vs Kimblee fight was pretty cool too, but Pride eating Kimblee was seriously disturbing. Pride is just one seriously effed up character. He creeps me out. I liked when Roy blasted through all those zombie things at the end of the episode to give Ed and co. a hand. That was pretty cool too. Also, Bones, seriously...stop re-using animation. Quit being lazy...honestly. Envy's big form freaks me out everytime though, I must admit that. Though I'll say it freaked me out more in the manga when I first saw it. But yeah, it was an okay episode.


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post Apr 16 2010, 12:11 PM
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Also, Bones, seriously...stop re-using animation. Quit being lazy...honestly


It hasn't happened often in this show I can think of?

Most shows don't have nearly as many intense action scenes in their last 15 episodes or so as Brotherhood will have. Realistically, budget wise, it's impossible to expect that every single episode has top notch new animation.

I'd rather them reuse a few frames for an unimportant scene than go into absolute slideshow mode (like in the clone scenes in this ep).

Remember that animation is an expensive business and the only way it really pays off is if DVD sales end up being fantastic.
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post Apr 16 2010, 08:08 PM
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-Hmmm animation seems a little off in the first two minutes or so
-The first part of this episode seems like a thesis to why Alphonse is awesome
-Ooooh the "three choices" speech
-Of course Olivier and Alex are being totally awesome this episode
-So you go into a room that has Olivier, Sloth, and Alex in it and the first you notice is Olivier? Real observant Central troops
-WOOT! Go Heinkel! Glad he got an eyecatch
-Why are you looking for an ice cream truck when there's a Flame ALCHEMIST? Central troops, you just fail right now
-Wasn't it Jelso (the toad) who got his neck bitten in the manga instead of Darius?
-The fights are transitioning really well
-Hmmm nice use of "Rain" I think it fit really well with the Armstrong/Sloth fight
-And how exactly did Alex get between Sloth and Olivier in time?
-There is gore lacking in this episode. It all seems a little too clean
-LOL Yoki
-Kimblee getting eaten... It was creepy. Must be the music that was playing
-Isn't grabbing someone's gun going to make them shoot you, Olivier?
-Mei, you're in this episode?
-Ending seemed abrupt

Oooooh... Next week: Envy flamerape. That episode better be animated like top notch Bones, or at least look pretty....


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post Apr 16 2010, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 16 2010, 09:08 PM) *
So you go into a room that has Olivier, Sloth, and Alex in it and the first you notice is Olivier? Real observant Central troops

Who cares what our faithful musclemen are doing? Catch the traitor first!

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Why are you looking for an ice cream truck when there's a Flame ALCHEMIST? Central troops, you just fail right now

And see, this is why it would have been great if the original Barry the Chopper incident had gone like in the first anime. Then the exchange might have been more like: "It was an ice cream truck, right?" "Yeah, but do you remember the last time someone let a meat truck pass through unchecked? Shoot, that thing's got tiny rectangles all over it! That's way suspicious!"

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And how exactly did Alex get between Sloth and Olivier in time?

Um... Maybe superspeed is Alex's superpower too? Hey, he did say you have to be quick to dodge his alchemy.

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Next week: Envy flamerape.

You know, this is going to be one of those things, like Pride's secret identity, that will never be a surprise to viewers who discuss the show online due to manga fans who can't stop blabbing about it.
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post Apr 16 2010, 10:03 PM
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I guess it's no surprise to anyone, but my favorite part of the episode was definitely the Armstrong siblings versus Sloth.

I think it's neat that Sloth is the fastest homunculi. He's "Sloth" because he wastes his potential by being lazy. It fits so well, much better than Water Mommy from the first series (though she was pretty awesome herself).

Nice to see Olivier and Alex get along somewhat, though they're bickering even in this situation.

Olivier~<3

Ugh, but I'm sort of dreading the next episode. Not that seeing Envy in pain isn't a good thing, but I never liked that fight because it cheapens Marcoh's accomplishment and Roy has it so easy.

Anyway, my full review of this episode is up on my blog!


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post Apr 16 2010, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 17 2010, 08:38 AM) *
-Isn't grabbing someone's gun going to make them shoot you, Olivier?




doesnt that make the scene more dramatic too....i felt it was done better here than in the manga......


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post Apr 17 2010, 08:02 AM
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oy oy oy nitpicking already o_o

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HOOLY crap that was a great episode. The fight sequence between Pride and Alphonse was very well done. The fight with Sloth and the Armstrongs was very suspenseful. Who but Louis laugh.gif

And philosopher stone doll zombie attack! Reminds me of the necromorphs in Dead Space happy.gif


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post Apr 18 2010, 01:12 AM
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My thoughts about this episode . .
This episode took me by surprise to be honest , it started of so quickly , it took me some time to get used to . The artwork looked weird at places , but i think it was done on purpose to give the action more fluidity . . The animation was top notch . . . As usual . . . . Al had his opportunity to shine , and that helicopter shot of pride was breathtaking . . . I'm gonna miss kimblee . . Big time sad.gif . . . And yoki . . Ha ha ha . So funny . . . Al's reaction to yoki's presence was priceless . . Ha ha . .

The armstrong siblings are an awesome team , and although they didn't look in good shape . They did manage to peg sloth back , a little . .

The doll scene is just , character development , nothin else , and sets up the next episode nicely . .

So do the scenes involving may and envy . . . Pretty good smile.gif

the transition from one fight to another was nice , and the way the op was used , was a masterstroke . . . Nice again smile.gif smile.gif

all in all , an awesomely awesome episode , wit the right amount of drama , fun and huge amount of action . . Fma brotherhood is easily the best show for quite some time smile.gif
and last but not the least , the preview looked awesome . . The animation was screaming epic . . Can't wait smile.gif smile.gif


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post Apr 18 2010, 01:19 PM
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^Agree! The helicopter shot, as you called it, of Pride was gorgeous!! Don't know why, but I thought it was!
The close-up on Kimblee's mouth when he showed his PS was really nice too!

(Rant about Al's hands moved too Character Design. *is afraid the mods will come after me*)

I love when Kimblee throws up rocks to hear where Al is! It's so smart! Gosh! (He should look a bit more dirty, though, IMO.)
I don't mind the gore-censoring, though. Just look at the last panel! Ugh! I'm quite happy I didn't have to see that animated.

I thought the OP-insert was nice. The melody was maybe a bit too cheerfull, but it made me not see that the fight had a lot of Dynamic Stillframes. I felt really sorry for Ed, as he doesn't like this kind of thing. He's just a kid and has a vulnerable heart. He still value souls very high. Nice to see he pulled through and didn't freak or mope out.
The cheerfullness did NOT on the other hand feel out of place when they switched to the Armstrong's fight!! Then it was Crowning Music of Awesome!!

(Haha, lol. When May kicks the first doll, there's a questionmark!)

I just realised the title for the episode (and chapter) is beautiful <3 Combined strength. The whole episode was just about that. Teamwork. Lovely wub.gif

(I have disappionted myself. sad.gif Epic fail. I mixed up the first anime, where A. Armstrong is in the north, I think, and betrays the military/don't follow order, with the manga. I have been sitting here, waiting for it to happen, because I've only read these last 30 chapters once, and seen the first anime once, both a year ago so my memory was blurry. But still, how could I? ;_;)


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Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 52 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here. smile.gif

FMA:B will air 1:00 AM - 1: 30 AM and 5:00 AM - 5:30 AM eastern time. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on again tonight on Adult Swim (U.S.)
They have one hour of FMA:Brotherhood tonight, first episode 51, and then directly followed by this episode. smile.gif


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