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Episode 51: Army Of Immortals - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 51 episodes
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post Apr 9 2010, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 9 2010, 08:27 PM) *
I think Envy just went CoS Gluttony on those zombies. And wait he got eaten? I don't remember that happening in the manga.

I'd say that is a neater way for it to happen than Envy suddenly being able to hop out of the jar. Deadly Sin dominates lesser mannequin souls!
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post Apr 10 2010, 01:39 AM
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QUOTE (hawkflame @ Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM) *
Not quite. The PS does allow equivalent exchange, in a sense, to be broken- well not really, but through the use of human souls, the price has already been paid.

Al couldn't have just remade his legs by further thinning out the rest of his armor, because then he risks the rest of his armor being structurally unsound. And he couldn't have made it from random materials on the ground, because that's not how alchemy works- unless you have a PS, you need the same basic elements
Didn't mean to misinform anyone. But I really, really don't remember that the PS has the power of bypassing physics laws and converting one element to another. That would link it to the historical alchemical theory, BUT it would also destroy the believable flair of FMA alchemy along with those rules.

Besides, soil has many metallic elements binded in chemical compounds. Al could have been able to put them aside and use them to repair his legs, even without a PS.

QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 9 2010, 07:27 PM) *
-Why does that zombie have green blood? That is just creepy.
I don't think it's blood. Those zombies, when injured, bleed in red. I think it's the eyeball liquid... (yeah, disgusting sleep.gif).

QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 9 2010, 07:27 PM) *
-"SISTA~ ARE YOU AWRITE!" WIN 3.0
In Japanese, the line is way more formal. Something along the lines of "My elder sister, are you safe and sound?" That "eldest sibling" thing is important in a Japanese context, so I didn't like the translation. dry.gif
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post Apr 10 2010, 02:18 AM
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QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Apr 10 2010, 03:39 PM) *
QUOTE (hawkflame @ Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM) *
Not quite. The PS does allow equivalent exchange, in a sense, to be broken- well not really, but through the use of human souls, the price has already been paid.

Al couldn't have just remade his legs by further thinning out the rest of his armor, because then he risks the rest of his armor being structurally unsound. And he couldn't have made it from random materials on the ground, because that's not how alchemy works- unless you have a PS, you need the same basic elements
Didn't mean to misinform anyone. But I really, really don't remember that the PS has the power of bypassing physics laws and converting one element to another. That would link it to the historical alchemical theory, BUT it would also destroy the believable flair of FMA alchemy along with those rules.

Besides, soil has many metallic elements binded in chemical compounds. Al could have been able to put them aside and use them to repair his legs, even without a PS.


Kaori, I'm pretty sure that the whole point of a PS is to bypass equivalent exchange. See ep 3: Cornello was able to transmute real flowers into minerals --> he's transmuting organic objects into inorganic ones. Equivalent exchange never allows this. What's more, he's able to transmute a gun out of thin air. So yeah, a PS can bypass almost any law in the FMA universe.

About Al, yeah normally he can easily fix an armor like that using elements in the ground. But there is a reason why Ed always has to be the person who fixes his armor. Only Ed knows how to do it without messing with the seal on Al's armor. The PS, once again, helps Al overcome this restriction.
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post Apr 10 2010, 04:30 AM
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The principle of Equivalent Exchange can't be bypassed. You still pay the price, even when using a PS, only it's not your money. With the energy in the PS, you evidently don't have to abide to the "conservation of mass" law. But I don't believe it can create something out of nothing.

Cornello didn't create the gun from thin air. He transmuted his cain. He just extended already existing matter, in a manner of speaking. Wooden matter --> metal matter at that, which I think proves a PS can convert one substance to another.

And Al, he didn't get the metal for his legs out of nowhere. He used the metal already available in his armour, to remake them.

I guess this physically is bypassing the equivalency exchange, matter-wise. But the principle remains unbroken.

Also, Al could normally not easily fix his armour using elements in the ground. Maybe it would be possible. But think of how much ground he would have to transmute, just to "obtain" sufficient amounts of metals. It would not be quick, it would not be easy.


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post Apr 10 2010, 03:43 PM
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Hey, my episode summaries are actually be used now! Cool. :3

Anyway, I was so torn about this episode. On the one hand, I love everything Olivier does all the time, and Alex joining the fight was great. On the other hand, I've never liked those white homunculi dolls. They feel like last minute mooks, and their only use is to give Envy a body (how convenient).

I love Kimbley's expression at the end when Al is walking forward. He is so super excited about that turn of events.


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Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 51 (on CN on Adult Swim) talk-back/discussions here. smile.gif

FMA:B will air 1:00 AM - 1: 30 AM and 5:00 AM - 5:30 AM eastern time. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on again tonight on Adult Swim (U.S.)
They have one hour of FMA:Brotherhood tonight, first this episode and then directly followed by episode 52. smile.gif


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For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on again tonight on Adult Swim (U.S.) smile.gif


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