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Episode 51: Army Of Immortals - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 51 episodes
Chiyo
post Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 4. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 51 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 51 episodes.

Please don't ask for links on where to watch this episode, raw or subbed. Discussions on 'where to watch' belong in Where/How to Watch FMA Series 2. Don't post screencaps unless highlighting something important about the content of the episode. Just like on in most area's of the board, avoid one line posts or spam of any kind.

Screenshots: see Omni's Post.

Full Screenshots: over at livejournal, provided by Moogledaime usually a couple days after episode has aired.

Summary: The officer who activates the homunculi dolls is eaten by them, and they turn o the scientist that was with him next. Edward, Scar, and the chimera arrive at the doorway near where Barry died. Ed tries to open it, to no avail. Suddenly it opens and the homunculi dolls pour in. Olivier takes a general hostage, but he orders his subordinates to shut the gates so that Mustang's and the Briggs forces can't get in. Sloth attacks, but Olivier moves out of the way and the general is crushed instead. Edward's group tries to fight off the dolls, but they don't have any luck. Edward suddenly realizes what they are. He shuts the exit to the room so they can prevent them from escaping. Back at the mound, Heinkel realizes that Pride has been sending out morse code signal, but it's too late. Kimbley attacks, breaking the mound, which releases Pride. Underground, Mei runs from the dolls, balancing the jar with Envy on her head, but Envy is swallowed by one of the dolls and takes control of it. Devouring the other dolls, Envy returns to his original form. Olivier tries to fight Sloth, but isn't damaging him. When she is about to be crushed, her brother Alex arrives to assist her. Alphonse tries to help Heinkel and escape from Pride and Kimbley, who shows him the Philosopher's Stone he saved from the mine. Alphonse uses it to challenge Kimbley and Pride, to Kimbley's amusement.. - Penguintruth, used with permission.

Extra: Do not discuss the new Op/Ed here. Please keep discussion to the relevant thread, i.e Fma: Brotherhood O S T-1, O S T-2, O P & E D Theme Musics Discussions for the music and the Op Theme Video Discussion and Ed theme video discussion for visuals and meaning.


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post Apr 10 2010, 04:30 AM
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The principle of Equivalent Exchange can't be bypassed. You still pay the price, even when using a PS, only it's not your money. With the energy in the PS, you evidently don't have to abide to the "conservation of mass" law. But I don't believe it can create something out of nothing.

Cornello didn't create the gun from thin air. He transmuted his cain. He just extended already existing matter, in a manner of speaking. Wooden matter --> metal matter at that, which I think proves a PS can convert one substance to another.

And Al, he didn't get the metal for his legs out of nowhere. He used the metal already available in his armour, to remake them.

I guess this physically is bypassing the equivalency exchange, matter-wise. But the principle remains unbroken.

Also, Al could normally not easily fix his armour using elements in the ground. Maybe it would be possible. But think of how much ground he would have to transmute, just to "obtain" sufficient amounts of metals. It would not be quick, it would not be easy.


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- Chiyo   Episode 51: Army Of Immortals - Content Discussion Thread   Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM
- - shanryelric   ok, first of all, I can't concentrate to the e...   Apr 4 2010, 01:28 AM
- - penguintruth   My initial thoughts: - Full-armored Greed in the ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Michiyo-   - Beautiful opening, will write more in the other ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:30 AM
- - StormGoddess   Am I the only one who LOL'ed when that Genera...   Apr 4 2010, 01:37 AM
- - Alzea   - New OP, woohooo! ;D I liked it, very angsty ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:49 AM
- - Omni   Episode 51 Screencaps and Impressions (For those ...   Apr 4 2010, 03:11 AM
- - Jealous Rogo   Cheers for the pics Omni No idea how we'd sur...   Apr 4 2010, 03:53 AM
- - fullmoon   Thank you so much Omni! I'm so relieved th...   Apr 4 2010, 04:17 AM
|- - allykatty1   The EdWin fan in me just about died for joy at the...   Apr 4 2010, 04:31 AM
|- - fullmoon   QUOTE (allykatty1 @ Apr 4 2010, 10:31 PM)...   Apr 4 2010, 04:39 AM
- - JELEE   I havent watched the ep yet but I really like this...   Apr 4 2010, 04:46 AM
|- - fullmoon   QUOTE (JELEE @ Apr 4 2010, 09:46 PM) I ha...   Apr 4 2010, 05:14 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   Wow. Having only watched the raw, I almost wanna g...   Apr 4 2010, 12:25 PM
- - Vlyse   Alphonse and the transition was amazing. I was su...   Apr 4 2010, 12:51 PM
- - Kaori Ayanami   I may be wrong, but the "monkey thing" i...   Apr 4 2010, 04:17 PM
- - deet-tastic   When Envy was flying up in the air in his jar and ...   Apr 4 2010, 04:59 PM
- - Irena   Am I the only one who thought that the "Fullm...   Apr 4 2010, 08:04 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   He's said it in that cutesy voice before, but ...   Apr 4 2010, 10:41 PM
- - deet-tastic   He finds them cute because his inflatable doll com...   Apr 5 2010, 12:00 AM
- - Chiyo   Okay everyone, we're heading off topic, much a...   Apr 5 2010, 12:53 AM
- - Kasumisty   I liked it very much. -I love the new OP and the...   Apr 5 2010, 04:57 AM
- - Ropespinner   @Kasumisty: I agree about the unstable animation ...   Apr 5 2010, 06:14 AM
- - EveningAlchemist   There was a lot of shudder worthy violence in this...   Apr 5 2010, 11:24 AM
- - A Pierrot's Aria   I liked this episode! The zombie-doll things...   Apr 5 2010, 01:34 PM
- - Fawfulhasfury   Envy's method of revival is canon in the manga...   Apr 5 2010, 03:24 PM
|- - Ant   On first viewing, this episode has just blown me a...   Apr 5 2010, 03:41 PM
- - Broken Chouchou   Now I really did like 49, but this is by far one o...   Apr 5 2010, 04:23 PM
- - Mr. Deathy   Very good episode. Great direction all around, lot...   Apr 5 2010, 04:41 PM
- - sidekick.kep37   @Ant: "Everything else into 3 episodes?...   Apr 5 2010, 05:16 PM
|- - Bag of Magic Food   QUOTE (sidekick.kep37 @ Apr 5 2010, 06:16...   Apr 5 2010, 09:21 PM
|- - Ant   QUOTE (sidekick.kep37 @ Apr 5 2010, 07:16...   Apr 6 2010, 01:33 PM
|- - Mr. Deathy   QUOTE (Ant @ Apr 6 2010, 02:33 PM) QUOTE ...   Apr 7 2010, 11:57 AM
- - hawkflame   GREAT episode. Loved the immortal army, loved Arm...   Apr 5 2010, 07:54 PM
- - mazam   The episode was really good. The weirdest shot wa...   Apr 5 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Jealous Rogo   While I notice a lot fo people are picking on the ...   Apr 6 2010, 03:45 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   @Jealous Rogo - I agree, I really like the animati...   Apr 6 2010, 04:34 AM
- - Ropespinner   QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Apr 6 2010, 01:45 P...   Apr 6 2010, 06:54 AM
- - Vagrant   It's weird how they've added bits in, but ...   Apr 6 2010, 06:28 PM
- - Chiyo   It has been driving my loopy trying to remember wh...   Apr 8 2010, 11:38 AM
- - MsLinn   But shouldn't that scientist know bullets wont...   Apr 8 2010, 12:53 PM
- - RoytheFlameAlchemist   Hey, some question about the use of the philosophe...   Apr 8 2010, 08:27 PM
|- - Kaori Ayanami   QUOTE (RoytheFlameAlchemist @ Apr 8 2010, 08...   Apr 8 2010, 09:15 PM
|- - hawkflame   QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Apr 9 2010, 12:15 ...   Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM
|- - Kaori Ayanami   QUOTE (hawkflame @ Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM) ...   Apr 10 2010, 01:39 AM
- - theanimalmafia   Well this episode was really good. Almost perfect....   Apr 9 2010, 07:27 PM
|- - Bag of Magic Food   QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 9 2010, 08:27...   Apr 9 2010, 09:46 PM
- - shiroe   QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Apr 10 2010, 03:39...   Apr 10 2010, 02:18 AM
- - penguintruth   Hey, my episode summaries are actually be used now...   Apr 10 2010, 03:43 PM
- - Michiyo-   Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 51 (on CN ...   Jun 25 2011, 02:44 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Oct 6 2012, 02:42 PM
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