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Episode 51: Army Of Immortals - Content Discussion Thread, Warning, possible spoilers for the first 51 episodes
Chiyo
post Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM
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Talk-back/content discussion for English dubbed episode on Adult Swim starts on page 4. smile.gif


Please post the discussions on the content of episode 51 here.
This thread is declared as a Spoiler zone for the content of the first 51 episodes.

Please don't ask for links on where to watch this episode, raw or subbed. Discussions on 'where to watch' belong in Where/How to Watch FMA Series 2. Don't post screencaps unless highlighting something important about the content of the episode. Just like on in most area's of the board, avoid one line posts or spam of any kind.

Screenshots: see Omni's Post.

Full Screenshots: over at livejournal, provided by Moogledaime usually a couple days after episode has aired.

Summary: The officer who activates the homunculi dolls is eaten by them, and they turn o the scientist that was with him next. Edward, Scar, and the chimera arrive at the doorway near where Barry died. Ed tries to open it, to no avail. Suddenly it opens and the homunculi dolls pour in. Olivier takes a general hostage, but he orders his subordinates to shut the gates so that Mustang's and the Briggs forces can't get in. Sloth attacks, but Olivier moves out of the way and the general is crushed instead. Edward's group tries to fight off the dolls, but they don't have any luck. Edward suddenly realizes what they are. He shuts the exit to the room so they can prevent them from escaping. Back at the mound, Heinkel realizes that Pride has been sending out morse code signal, but it's too late. Kimbley attacks, breaking the mound, which releases Pride. Underground, Mei runs from the dolls, balancing the jar with Envy on her head, but Envy is swallowed by one of the dolls and takes control of it. Devouring the other dolls, Envy returns to his original form. Olivier tries to fight Sloth, but isn't damaging him. When she is about to be crushed, her brother Alex arrives to assist her. Alphonse tries to help Heinkel and escape from Pride and Kimbley, who shows him the Philosopher's Stone he saved from the mine. Alphonse uses it to challenge Kimbley and Pride, to Kimbley's amusement.. - © Penguintruth, used with permission.

Extra: Do not discuss the new Op/Ed here. Please keep discussion to the relevant thread, i.e Fma: Brotherhood O S T-1, O S T-2, O P & E D Theme Musics Discussions for the music and the Op Theme Video Discussion and Ed theme video discussion for visuals and meaning.


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post Apr 5 2010, 04:23 PM
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Now I really did like 49, but this is by far one of the best episodes in quite a while. It just had some very good direction. It adapted the happenings of the manga very nicely, rearranging placement of some scenes to make it better. And it had a lot of GREAT music, several tracks of which have not previosuly been heard. The sound direction was also suberb; the tracks started just at the right time, and overlapped transitions between scenes very nicely. Even the old tracks were very nice hearing again, it's been awhile since you last heard them (even "that" track was good hearing). Animation looked a bit weird at times but was for the most part really good.

(As expected, the subtitles lowered the impression a bit, there were some half-lame lines here and there that didn't quite seem to fit the mood that I'd built up from the first view. But never mind. It was my own fault for watching the raw first.)

My favourite scenes:

- I sooo love the zombies. I don't care if they're a "plot staller" for Ed and co, they're awesome. At least here in the anime, when "come alive". I love the creepy and disturbing scene in the laboratory, where they devour that officer, and later on the terrified scientist. It DID feel very Resident Evily biggrin.gif The blood, the screams, the freakeyness <33 The dramatic music didn't exactly make it worse, either. Could always have been gorier though >:D

- I adore the Oliver scenes in tnis episode. The music piece that plays when she first makes entrance is glorious. Starts out very intense and sorta melodramatic, then the strings turn a little creepy. Love it.

Sloth makes an appearance and reduces Olivier's gutsy hostage to a blood stain on the floor. And I was shocked, is that some of his squashed organs sticking up amongst the rubble? Or was that supposed to be a hand?

The subsequent fight against Sloth is nice, albeit some weird animation on Olivier's part at times. I like the way Alex comes to the rescue. Seriously, the music in this episode is fantastic.

- Ed and friends fighting off hordes of hungry dolls is pretty good. Lemme say first that the initial shot of Ed staring intently at the doors must be the sexiest one of him so far in the series. Yes, I just said that. Ed, sexy. Ahem. Moving on. The following scenes were really intense. Ed sealing themselves up in the hall together with the hundreds of zombies, along with the DOOM music playing (which is really effective here, and it hasn't been used in a while I think), gave me goosebumps. It really felt as he was sealing their own fates down there. Yikes. I was a little suprised by the evidently green blood of the zombies though, looked sorta weird.

- Envy. This part was so much more awesome than it was in the manga. Mei pwning the zombies was funny and cool at the same time, among the creepiness of it all. Envy getting eaten by a zombie was a welcome addition by BONES. I just imagined how scary it'd be for Mei, with her only companion down there seemingly getting killed, leaving her all alone with those things. But then. Epic, crazy shít happens (and Mei would have been screwed unless it had). I love that they use "Envy revealed" (or a remixed version of it) while this goes down. And I must say, Envy's VA really performed well here, and the animation was great. I love his deranged laughter and the faces he make. (Only complaint would be that Envy's true form is way too clean, it's not slimy and nasty enough. But that's just the design Brotherhood has gone with, and not in any way related to this particular scene.)

- And finally, we have Alphonse and his epic moment of epicness. It was great. Al had some really cool shots of him where the animation was just excellent, and Heinkel didn't look too bad in the close-ups either. I love the music that's playing here, the intrumental version of the "Ishbal-Marcoh-Philospher Stone" track. And the ending kicking in was just pure win, when Al steps out of the cloud. I am SO glad that they changed OP ad ED for this, Shunkan Sentimental would have been nowhere near as good as this.

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- Chiyo   Episode 51: Army Of Immortals - Content Discussion Thread   Apr 3 2010, 10:55 AM
- - shanryelric   ok, first of all, I can't concentrate to the e...   Apr 4 2010, 01:28 AM
- - penguintruth   My initial thoughts: - Full-armored Greed in the ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:29 AM
- - Michiyo-   - Beautiful opening, will write more in the other ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:30 AM
- - StormGoddess   Am I the only one who LOL'ed when that Genera...   Apr 4 2010, 01:37 AM
- - Alzea   - New OP, woohooo! ;D I liked it, very angsty ...   Apr 4 2010, 01:49 AM
- - Omni   Episode 51 Screencaps and Impressions (For those ...   Apr 4 2010, 03:11 AM
- - Jealous Rogo   Cheers for the pics Omni No idea how we'd sur...   Apr 4 2010, 03:53 AM
- - fullmoon   Thank you so much Omni! I'm so relieved th...   Apr 4 2010, 04:17 AM
|- - allykatty1   The EdWin fan in me just about died for joy at the...   Apr 4 2010, 04:31 AM
|- - fullmoon   QUOTE (allykatty1 @ Apr 4 2010, 10:31 PM)...   Apr 4 2010, 04:39 AM
- - JELEE   I havent watched the ep yet but I really like this...   Apr 4 2010, 04:46 AM
|- - fullmoon   QUOTE (JELEE @ Apr 4 2010, 09:46 PM) I ha...   Apr 4 2010, 05:14 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   Wow. Having only watched the raw, I almost wanna g...   Apr 4 2010, 12:25 PM
- - Vlyse   Alphonse and the transition was amazing. I was su...   Apr 4 2010, 12:51 PM
- - Kaori Ayanami   I may be wrong, but the "monkey thing" i...   Apr 4 2010, 04:17 PM
- - deet-tastic   When Envy was flying up in the air in his jar and ...   Apr 4 2010, 04:59 PM
- - Irena   Am I the only one who thought that the "Fullm...   Apr 4 2010, 08:04 PM
- - Bag of Magic Food   He's said it in that cutesy voice before, but ...   Apr 4 2010, 10:41 PM
- - deet-tastic   He finds them cute because his inflatable doll com...   Apr 5 2010, 12:00 AM
- - Chiyo   Okay everyone, we're heading off topic, much a...   Apr 5 2010, 12:53 AM
- - Kasumisty   I liked it very much. -I love the new OP and the...   Apr 5 2010, 04:57 AM
- - Ropespinner   @Kasumisty: I agree about the unstable animation ...   Apr 5 2010, 06:14 AM
- - EveningAlchemist   There was a lot of shudder worthy violence in this...   Apr 5 2010, 11:24 AM
- - A Pierrot's Aria   I liked this episode! The zombie-doll things...   Apr 5 2010, 01:34 PM
- - Fawfulhasfury   Envy's method of revival is canon in the manga...   Apr 5 2010, 03:24 PM
|- - Ant   On first viewing, this episode has just blown me a...   Apr 5 2010, 03:41 PM
- - Mr. Deathy   Very good episode. Great direction all around, lot...   Apr 5 2010, 04:41 PM
- - sidekick.kep37   @Ant: "Everything else into 3 episodes?...   Apr 5 2010, 05:16 PM
|- - Bag of Magic Food   QUOTE (sidekick.kep37 @ Apr 5 2010, 06:16...   Apr 5 2010, 09:21 PM
|- - Ant   QUOTE (sidekick.kep37 @ Apr 5 2010, 07:16...   Apr 6 2010, 01:33 PM
|- - Mr. Deathy   QUOTE (Ant @ Apr 6 2010, 02:33 PM) QUOTE ...   Apr 7 2010, 11:57 AM
- - hawkflame   GREAT episode. Loved the immortal army, loved Arm...   Apr 5 2010, 07:54 PM
- - mazam   The episode was really good. The weirdest shot wa...   Apr 5 2010, 09:19 PM
- - Jealous Rogo   While I notice a lot fo people are picking on the ...   Apr 6 2010, 03:45 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   @Jealous Rogo - I agree, I really like the animati...   Apr 6 2010, 04:34 AM
- - Ropespinner   QUOTE (Jealous Rogo @ Apr 6 2010, 01:45 P...   Apr 6 2010, 06:54 AM
- - Vagrant   It's weird how they've added bits in, but ...   Apr 6 2010, 06:28 PM
- - Chiyo   It has been driving my loopy trying to remember wh...   Apr 8 2010, 11:38 AM
- - MsLinn   But shouldn't that scientist know bullets wont...   Apr 8 2010, 12:53 PM
- - RoytheFlameAlchemist   Hey, some question about the use of the philosophe...   Apr 8 2010, 08:27 PM
|- - Kaori Ayanami   QUOTE (RoytheFlameAlchemist @ Apr 8 2010, 08...   Apr 8 2010, 09:15 PM
|- - hawkflame   QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Apr 9 2010, 12:15 ...   Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM
|- - Kaori Ayanami   QUOTE (hawkflame @ Apr 9 2010, 05:09 AM) ...   Apr 10 2010, 01:39 AM
- - theanimalmafia   Well this episode was really good. Almost perfect....   Apr 9 2010, 07:27 PM
|- - Bag of Magic Food   QUOTE (theanimalmafia @ Apr 9 2010, 08:27...   Apr 9 2010, 09:46 PM
- - shiroe   QUOTE (Kaori Ayanami @ Apr 10 2010, 03:39...   Apr 10 2010, 02:18 AM
- - Broken Chouchou   The principle of Equivalent Exchange can't be ...   Apr 10 2010, 04:30 AM
- - penguintruth   Hey, my episode summaries are actually be used now...   Apr 10 2010, 03:43 PM
- - Michiyo-   Please add FMA:B English dubbed episode 51 (on CN ...   Jun 25 2011, 02:44 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Oct 6 2012, 02:42 PM
- - Tombow   For anyone who missed this episode, it will be on ...   Nov 1 2013, 09:06 PM


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