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Chapter 105 "Regular" Discussion Thread For First Time Readers (and Others), No future chapter spoilers here, please. :)
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post Mar 15 2010, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE (zonkiethegreat @ Mar 14 2010, 04:06 PM) *
Ok, can someone explain to me exactly how Wrath died here??? I'm a little confused, and what did he mean that "thats how it is between a king and his partner"???

And I'm assuming Hohenheim is in the process of sacrificing himself.


Well, you should know this by now. You keep destroying a homunculus over and over again, eventually their stone runs out and they can't survive anymore. It's no different than Mustang's fight with Lust. It shouldn't be that hard to figure out...

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Now the Black Knight really appears like a sissy laugh.gif As for Scar, I hope he survives. Him being alone with Ranfan makes me wonder if he will try something to steal the stone for May's benefit...


I somehow highly doubt that. I think Scar and everybody else have come to the realization that the Philosopher's Stone is going to do absolutely nothing in the end. Nobody is immortal, the Philosopher's Stone will not give you immortality, especially if you're repeatedly attacked and killed over and over again, that stone is going to give out. I don't think Scar would be stupid enough to do something like that. He's a lot smarter than that. They're all allied now.


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post Mar 15 2010, 11:31 AM
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I've just read the chapter (yay for being able to avoid spoilers this time biggrin.gif)...and wow! 67 pages!

Dragonballish Hohenheim! Also I love Father's idea of create a small sun to destroy everything.

Wrath...it was about time for him to depart, he was the toughest among the homunculi even if it hadn't the same number of souls in his philosopher's stone. I mean being able to wound your opponent without arms and an eye, is a quite uncommon skill...also I think that his last words will be relevant. Probably about the Ran Fan and Ling future (if he will become the King of Xing).

Now I don't really know what the heck will happen in the next chapters, but I'm sooo impatient!
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post Mar 15 2010, 12:02 PM
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Well, that was a very good chapter. I found the part where Ed and Al backs up their father very touching. On fathers, the other daddy-o in the room was very awesome. I mean, creating a sun in his palm. I don't know if it's me who's just inexperienced in these kinds of final showdown/last boss moments in manga and anime, but I thought that was pretty original. Either way it was pretty cool. The scene where he launches it at Team Hero however, looks a lot like some RPG special-attack. "Limit Break: Fireball!!!" It was sorta funny.

Both Hohenheim, and Mei, (although not as much), had their moments, and while Ed didn't do much, I wasn't bothered by it. He mostly got thrown around and obeyed his dad's orders, which I was happy to see. While he is the main protagonist, he is still only sixteen years old. This wasn't his part of the battle, there was nothing he could have contributed with. And it's good that he realizes this and acts accordingly, let's those who knows what they are doing fight and doesn't get in their way. You can't aways be the hero.

Glad to see everyone's alive, by the way. That soul tornado is something I'm looking forward to seeing animated. When I think about it, this chapter was full of cool shots, including the one just mentioned. The part where Wrath looks up through the trashed ceiling and the sun shines down on the scene was one of them. The whole Scar vs Wrath fight had some really well-drawn and awesomely shaded panels through it, and I really hope the anime will capture the mood and epicness of it. The way Bradley met his end could have been more satisfying for me (I would have liked to see the bastard get his body ripped apart), but it was still good. And Scar can't die yet, he has to reveal his name first! That little inner monolouge to his brother though very much made it feel like that his end could indeed come very soon. It also reminded me of how he died in the first animes series; the last words he shared were to his brother.


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post Mar 15 2010, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (Broken Chouchou @ Mar 15 2010, 08:02 PM) *
Both Hohenheim, and Mei, (although not as much), had their moments, and while Ed didn't do much, I wasn't bothered by it. He mostly got thrown around and obeyed his dad's orders, which I was happy to see. While he is the main protagonist, he is still only sixteen years old. This wasn't his part of the battle, there was nothing he could have contributed with. And it's good that he realizes this and acts accordingly, let's those who knows what they are doing fight and doesn't get in their way. You can't aways be the hero.


I agree with you. Unlike other mangas/animes the main characters aren't the definitive weapon against the villain. Even now that Father has been weakened, they aren't fighting him by themselves. It is more plausible than a hero that use an over 9000 just found technique to kill the bad guy in a single blow.

And yes the scene where Wrath is looking to the eclipse through the smashed ceiling will be really intense if they animate it well.
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post Mar 15 2010, 12:58 PM
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Frankly I think Ed has nicely been set up for his hero moment.

At first I felt almost dissapointed that all souls were returned. Not because they're alive, but it just seems a very quick turn around. After reading the scanlation I am happier as there must be a lot to cram in to the time left. I think it's interesting that they were aware of that time out of their body, as Winry describes it as pain and suffering. Let's everyone know what a small band is going through to save them, I think.

Also agree, if they animators get it right, this is going to look amazing in the anime. Hurray Goku...I mean Hoho.


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post Mar 16 2010, 05:58 AM
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*reborn from shadows*

At first, I was also disappointed with the quick solution given to the souls problem. Arakawa could have held her horses a bit longer, and let the tension build up. The heroes didn't even seem very disturbed with the happening, because they didn't have much time to think of it; but thinking again, they probably knew of HoHo's plan and simply obliged with it.

Now I only think that Arakawa wanted us to focus again on the main problem of all series, the reason why it exists after all: the recovery of Al and Ed's bodies. There are around 3 chapters ahead, and so Father should surprise us on the REAL epic battle, now that he seems weak; it was much too easy, didn't you think? HoHo has played his role well (and at last); now the protagonist has to shine.

I hope the people of Amestris have conscience of what happened to them; it'd make a lot easier to explain later =P

Now I'm really, really interested to know what's going to happen to Ling, though. He still has to meet the déneouement of his condition, and now that we have a MAJOR turn-up on the Xinguese characters node - the discovery of the extra PS by Lan Fan - something is certainly going to happen to Ling. I suppose that, with a new and harmless PS, he won't need Greed any longer, and they can end the homunculi for good; but something must be done with May. Questions, questions.

About Bradley, he's a big fat son of a dog. How come one attacks AND HURTS someone by using his MOUTH to hold a sword? Not the mention his pride (no, really, he should be Pride, like in the first anime - it just fits) on being what he is, despite all. And the moral bitchslap he gave Lan Fan (and us all who believed there was some humanity in him) was... pwned.

And I didn't like the umbra stuff. Nope. Arakawa didn't give us a clue of that was going to happen, like she always does. So, nope. =P


*drifts off to the shadows again*


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post Jun 2 2010, 08:48 PM
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I knew it was coming for a long time, but I was still sad when Bradley died. That man really is one of the deadliest fighters in the entire series. His character is incredibly interesting in the FMA manga, and I'm glad his death was fitting. He passed away not dishonorably, but satisfied while saying he enjoyed his time spent with humans on Earth.


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post Jun 2 2010, 10:06 PM
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Yeah really. In some ways, I wish Bradley was the final boss. Father was far less interesting and never did anything really cool other than the whole "What if I birth humans?" thing.


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First time FMA manga readers, please post your thoughts and discussions on chapter 105 here. smile.gif

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